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CCP WeatherMan	Posted - 2009.04.15 07:44:00 - [1] Dear citizens of New Eden, EVE Voice has been used to facilitate the daily life of our pilots since its advent, enhancing the coordination of pilots during intense gameplay such as battles, improving inter-player negotiations, enriching planning and bringing a new facet to overall social interaction. As a part of the process to improve the experience of using EVE Voice, we would like to hear your true stories of how it has affected your game play. Good stories, interesting tidbits, or general feedback and suggestions are welcome in this thread. Weatherman Community Representative CCP Games Contact us

Drahkar	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:09:00 - [2] Edited by: Drahkar on 17/04/2009 15:09:51 I got rickrolled without even clicking a link. Enhanced gameplay my a*s. lol
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:10:00 - [3] Quote: we would like to hear your true stories of how it has affected your game play Well, it tends to crash my client whenever I turn it on - and when it does work the binding keys often fail to register a press! --- I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :(
DigitalCommunist November Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:13:00 - [4] Everything about it is fine, except the push to talk button likes to cut people off with increasing enthusiasm. Sometimes it will get so bad the only way to fix is to rejoin voice. I really am trying to use it, both on a personal and corp level. But as it stands, these problems really don't make it suitable for any serious pvp ventures. Were I running a 20+ man corp, I would go to Ventrilo. The integration isn't that great either, given how much potential there is. I never use the fleet stuff, and just have everyone join corp voice channel. The fleet stuff is too cumbersome and complicated to bother with. Instead I would like to be able to see IN SPACE which ship is talking. The problem with that is 'gang members' in solarsystem map is consistently broken and useless. But if you could do at least in-space notice that would be great. Something like having the name appear while they're speaking, as if you've done a mouseover.
Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:14:00 - [5] I've never used it, as Voice Comms in general tend to be effort. I don't like effort. Still - I'm sure if I actually needed it whilst sat around in an Orca drifting between belts, I would use it.
Seishi Maru M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:29:00 - [6] Incredbly hard to make it work with more than half of the common sound chips in market. When it works has low quality. Interface controlling on wich channel you are is extremelly bugged.
Virtuozzo The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:34:00 - [7] I've been using it with reasonable reliability in gangs and fleets, typically within specialty groups of same shipclass for coordinating without disturbing teamspeak. It's a tool, but since it cuts out when EVE cuts out it is not a reliable tool. It's not going to replace TS or vent for a long time without that changing tbh. Trouble remains technical issues, particularly audio volume which needs tweaking across the board and there's still a lot of people who have issues with onboard audio chipsets and eve voice it seems. Right now eve voice is like a convo tool, or when stuff is hectic a secondary comms tool. For that to change there's a lot of work to be done tbh. Like give us an option to cut out all other eve client sounds when someone is speaking or when you are speaking. And a friggin way to use it when eve is down. ≡v≡ Please resize sig to a file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
Fossil Wolf omen. Gay4Life	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:38:00 - [8] I'm willing to post positive comments on the Voice system if it keeps the WeatherMan in a job! Furthermore by continuing this discussion we detract from the real issue many of us are having with eve online, the lack of break between signature and post content.
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:43:00 - [9] I've never used it... Of course once Ambulation hits eve voice will be awesome, and I hope it's implemented well, ie positional audio according to who's talking.
Spurty Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:50:00 - [10] Used it and liked it. Brings the ease of which spies can listen in so low they have to actually invest time and energy! Quality is higher than TS but a bit below Vent. It certainly allows decent control over the crowds when in a fleet and you can always hear your FC/WC/SC over the guy crying about the fact he is dying / what he wants for dinner. Originally by: Butter Dog I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:10:00 - [11] This one time, when it was first released, it crashed my client (and pc) so i had to force shutdown then restart, i was in losec when i crashed and when i restarted i was in my clone. I havn't used it since And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now
Delphen Gruss Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:18:00 - [12] I like it alot. Our corp uses it all the time on ops.
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:25:00 - [13] Originally by: CCP WeatherMan Dear citizens of New Eden, EVE Voice has been used to facilitate the daily life of our pilots since its advent, enhancing the coordination of pilots during intense gameplay such as battles, improving inter-player negotiations, enriching planning and bringing a new facet to overall social interaction. As a part of the process to improve the experience of using EVE Voice, we would like to hear your true stories of how it has affected your game play. Good stories, interesting tidbits, or general feedback and suggestions are welcome in this thread. I have used it since the start and find it useful, and well worth it too . No crashes due to EV yet(maybe one,but wasn't sure) and the fact that enabling it takes all of 5 seconds is brilliant One criticism that keeps popping up,usually from the moaners who have not used it in that situation(and are just putting 2+2 and getting 5) is use of it in small fleet ops , it works and disconnections are no problem, you log in find out what's going on,and continue For Medium + Large fleets , I have no experience Regards to voice quality, I find it to be spot on 99% of the time, the other 1% I have had bad quality , very fast talking(seriously,like a 5 second speech concentrated to 2 seconds, very funny) or lockups(fixed by disconnecting from EV and reconnecting) Nearly always the above problems happen when the pilot is using his PC to do other things during EVE,like downloading ====================
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:42:00 - [14] Works quite well. I've used it 2-3 times when in 60+ man fleets. While it's obviously cumbersome when multiple speak at once, it seems to work okay. However, some people seem to have various issues with it, and if your client lags the voice does too. Maybe the voice needs its own thread... Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. Proud ally of CVA
Sky Marshal IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:48:00 - [15] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 17/04/2009 16:51:02 It don't affect the gameplay. Mumble/TeamSpeak are better for all PVP operations, as they are more stable and more important, are external clients. If for any reason you are disconnected, this externality is CRITICAL, to know if you can relogin or stuff, but Eve Voice don't have this capacity. CCP know this since a long time. They was, and remains the most visible criticisms who can be done against Eve Voice. Eve Voice is used in my corporation only for small gang operations (mining, w-space...), and for specific dual-corp communications (Mumble has some access restriction... Often, it can just by lazyness). Also, Eve Voice need a feature, a sort of "volume normalization". All players don't have the same level of input, so sometimes, my ears are bleeding.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:58:00 - [16] I haven't been using it much lately because the new sound engine included in Apocrypha doesn't work properly with the cider emulation layer on Mac. It apparently can mix EVE Voice very well with regular audio, causing crackling, static, and echoing occur as soon as it has to play voice audio together with something else… and "something else" includes playing the voice of someone else talking at the same time. Sooner or later, one of these mixing events will occur and EVE Voice will stop working properly, forcing a restart of the client to even hear what others are saying — much less say anything yourself. Other than that, it's great. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:59:00 - [17] My corp uses Eve Voice consistently - pretty much daily on group ops. It works great and we rarely have any glitches or problems with it. I like the fact that it is universal, while third party solutions require customized access. If I'm talking with a potential new recruit to the corp, for example, we can easily just turn on voice in a channel and chat awawy without the need to give out IP addresses, create logins, etc. No hassle set-up is a good thing. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic
Feilamya Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.17 17:09:00 - [18] Edited by: Feilamya on 17/04/2009 17:09:54 Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 This one time, when it was first released, it crashed my client (and pc) so i had to force shutdown then restart, i was in losec when i crashed and when i restarted i was in my clone. I havn't used it since This, except I still saw my ship explode after relogging, and my pod got away. The other time I turned on sound in EVE I saw my first bluescreen ever in Windows XP.
Photon Ceray	Posted - 2009.04.17 17:24:00 - [19] it has some advantages: first: security! in a 100 man fleet op you don't have to worry about vent/ts registrations and spies; them being in fleet is different story, not related to eve-voice. second: mobility? it's very nice that you can join voice on any chat window, corp, fleet, private convo or whatever without having to alt-tab, find an emty room, move there, wait for other person....etc. BUT! and it's a big one, it has so many problems as well, personally it fails to register pressing talk button after first press so I only used it for 1 week then gave up since a year and a half. 2nd, I didn't test that myself, but I am afraid that in big laggy fleet fights eve-voice will be affected by the lag. 3rd, very few customizing options (e.g lower someone with strong mic, make someone else louder) I suggest the following: 1- make it an out-of-game software 2- make it very light weight, like vent for example. 3- quality of sound needs to be very good (don't want players to go back to vent just to understand what others are saying) 4- I'd make it log-in with same game account info(or new info for security), and I'd be able to see all the chat windows I have open in-game! so if I am in corp, alliance, fleet, and private convo I'll see all of them as options to join them via that tool. 5- I'd make it very useful for fleets, for example put scouts in 1 channel, FCs in 1 channel, normal fleet bulk in another channel. FCs should be able to listen to all the 3 rooms and be able to talk in all 3; how? (scouts sound from left side, FCs from right side, members from back left -surround sound-. talking in different channels with different buttons. 6- voice level custumized, scouts/fcs much higher than normal members. 7- should be able to devide in squads or wings, for example an FC gives a command only to capital ships wing: move to X and normal fleet -with spies- doesn't hear it, wing 1 (RR BS) move to location Y, wing 3 (support) move to location Z. 8- normal players should be also able to choose in which chat they talk, fleet, wing or squad.(e.g falcon sqad deviding targets between eachother). this will be made easier if fleet window is made proper, I suggested some ideas in features post 9- the ability to join normal rooms like other chats, (e.g a coalition as whole in 1 channel), general eve diplomatic channel...etc 10- alliances should be able to create separate rooms that can be joined the same way (FC chat, reps chat, CEOs...etc) well, I think I can come up with so many more useful ideas but I doubt it's possible to implement even the ones I already mentioned all together, I hope you will manage to make it useful.
Jack Gilligan Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.04.17 17:36:00 - [20] EVE voice cannot and never will replace Vent or Teamspeak. It affects the client performance and is less configurable (ie: normalizing volumes like you can do with vent). It also won't work outside EVE, which is something that is vital for a voice server for a corp or alliance. That said it's a nice thing to see included with the game, but it still has a long way to go before it's use can be universal. --- My opinions are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my corp or alliance.
Piotr Anatolev Gallente Society of Assassins	Posted - 2009.04.17 17:45:00 - [21] I m not aware of any of the difficulties/challanges inherent in a project like this, but my 1st though when hearing about eve voice for the first time was that this isnt gona hold water with poeple taking their communications even half-arsed seriously. The one and only, yet utterly crippling deficiency of the current eve voice implementation is that it doesnt allow for communications unless the EVE client is up and running. I dont have any ideas or suggestions on how to fix it, all I know is that if CCP is gona continnue working on this feature, they need to adress this issue with an emphasis, they really need to make it priority numero uno.
Professor Dumbledore Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:09:00 - [22] Eve voice is useless because it requires the game to be working correctly not crashing and all the other stupid **** the game does.
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:12:00 - [23] Originally by: CCP WeatherMan Dear citizens of New Eden, EVE Voice has been used to facilitate the daily life of our pilots since its advent, enhancing the coordination of pilots during intense gameplay such as battles, improving inter-player negotiations, enriching planning and bringing a new facet to overall social interaction. As a part of the process to improve the experience of using EVE Voice, we would like to hear your true stories of how it has affected your game play. Good stories, interesting tidbits, or general feedback and suggestions are welcome in this thread. lags my client quite a bit, and tbh it would work better if it was standalone somewhat. being in the middle of an op and all of the sudden you crash, together with comms is very bad. it is also quite cumbersome, and the amount of customization to fit one's needs is scarce. quality wise, vent is much better, but is somewhat on par with TS. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
el caido School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:18:00 - [24] I don't use it. The reasons have already been stated by others.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:19:00 - [25] It's good for racing, but I wouldn't want to use it to organise a large op. Ideally, it should be given a separate process, using the same login details, so it can keep going whenever the client disconnects. This happens quite frequently for a lot of people; the main client is extremely sensitive. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
Derus Grobb Selectus Pravus Lupus	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:25:00 - [26] The only problem I have is that one of my corp is behind a work firewall and can't use it. It really needs an auto level adjustment feature as well. ---
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:34:00 - [27] We tend to not use it because of discontinued service during a crash, however I hear a couple of Veto members have made ransoms over Eve Voice. ___ Latest video: War Has Come (720p)
konjev Minmatar Ray of Matar Assembly	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:40:00 - [28] eve voice works? first time I have heard that, can't talk and can't hear anything, just a waste off bandwith/resources
Frobos Weird Cat Research Zombie Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.17 18:52:00 - [29] I have only seriously used EVE Voice twice. And each time, I needed to ENABLE all game sounds. I normally run without sound to help reduce lag. Especially during battles with more than 2-3 people or large missions. When I did use it, everything seemed to work just fine. Audio quality was okay and simple enough for me to get it working. So, I personally would like to have the option of leaving game sounds OFF while enabling just voice.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.04.17 19:10:00 - [30] People have said long before EVE Voice ever came out, myself included that very few people would use it without some kind of external client so if your eve freezes/ctd/whatever you can continue doing what you're doing and knowing what's happening. Until there is something like this it will only be used by a select few. __________________

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