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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:25:00 -
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Lets face it, nobody likes to lose a month-worth isk just because some campgaters did it for the lulz.
Yes you can fly a cheap frigate, but still you can lose your oh so beloved and valued implants!!! The only solution is, jump-clone and get into +2 implants for example. Yes and losing 3attribute points, thus skill training time??? Ha!
Im completely sure if capsules were harder to lock/destroy, much more players would like to enter low sec.
Other secondary reasons why lowsec is empty:
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
- Low rewards (excepting 0.0)
- You can do whatever business over highsec.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:29:00 -
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Risk/reward, now you get BS rats in low-sec bla bla bla....
TL;DR- WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH i lost my implants to pivats !
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:30:00 -
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Just get a jump clown 
"I can't afford to lose +5s" comes under "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose".
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Havohej
Minmatar
KHM Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:33:00 -
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Every pod I've ever lost after passing 6M SP or so has been worth at least 150M worth of implants. I don't usually fly with sets of Low-grade pirate implants, but +3's and hardwirings start adding up...
Still, I enjoy the performance enhancement, and I'm pretty good at not getting podded (even in 0.0 - last time I was podded was due to a desync where my pod literally could not dock at a station and was a sitting duck as I desperately tried to dock). So I risk the ISK, but only with a very good understanding of how to safeguard it.
 Originally by: CCP Explorer
You can still steal their stuff.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:37:00 -
[5]
Originally by: TraininVain
Just get a jump clown
Aye, one of those are extremely fun.
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Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:39:00 -
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I got a few jump clowns....and I don't use any implants in 0.0 at all...
One dictor and you go *pop*
People for Stuff Raffle - No ISK needed
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:50:00 -
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Quote:
Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
This is not a secondary reason, this is the PRIMARY reason, specialy when we all know how EvE is clustered by big e-peen players.
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Havohej
Minmatar
KHM Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue
I got a few jump clowns....and I don't use any implants in 0.0 at all...
One dictor and you go *pop*
Don't lose your ship inside bubble. Duh. Bubble exists for three things:
1. Hold Supercaps.
2. Give gang time to get points on targets as they're burning out of the bubble - otherwise they'd potentially just warp away before tacklers got points.
3. Pod noobs who don't burn out of the bubble.
Originally by: CCP Explorer
You can still steal their stuff.
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Gambit Stryder
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
 BAWWWWW, LOWSEC IS TOO HARD FOR ME
Cry me a river.
If you can't accept the consequences of entering lowsec, then don't come. There's a reason for that warning that pops up. You're worried about the community knowing whether or not you got popped? Seriously?
Also, it's very difficult to be podded in lowsec if you know what you're doing, so you must be ******ed.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:54:00 -
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Last time I went into Low-Sec, an Onyx blew up my budget-fit Caracal and locked down my pod. Thinking he was the boss, he demanded a 50m ISK Ransom so that I could travel 16 jumps back through low security space in my Pod.
I just told him to Pod me, as I was going back past Todaki anyway to get to Jita.
Must have been the most unsatisfactory podding ever for that asshat.
Lesson here is... Always use your "Jump Clown" in Low Sec.
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Atedar Kerane
HeXstoof
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
Im completely sure if capsules were harder to lock/destroy, much more players would like to enter low sec.
Capsules are really hard to lock as it is. I have been doing pvp for 2 years now and lost loads of ships, but to this date I haven't lost a single pod.
You just have to react fast and play smart.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari
Ceptacemia
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Last time I went into Low-Sec, an Onyx blew up my budget-fit Caracal and locked down my pod. Thinking he was the boss, he demanded a 50m ISK Ransom so that I could travel 16 jumps back through low security space in my Pod.
I just told him to Pod me, as I was going back past Todaki anyway to get to Jita.
Must have been the most unsatisfactory podding ever for that asshat.
Lesson here is... Always use your "Jump Clown" in Low Sec.
How the hell did your POD get caught in low sec? By an Onyx no less? You must have been sleeping or on dial-up...
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Reven Cordelle on 16/04/2009 13:01:31
Originally by: Gixxer 1000
How the hell did your POD get caught in low sec? By an Onyx no less? You must have been sleeping or on dial-up...
First time in Low Sec, decided to have a mooch around the local 0.2 secs. Accidentally warped in on some Onyx ratting and thought "Ah hes probabl.. Man I died quick"
Back then I didn't know the "HIT WARP LIKE A MISBEHAVING ESCORT!" strategy.
Good times.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:04:00 -
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Jump Clones. Get them. Profit.
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Chraiz
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
Does this really matter? It's not like the majority of players obsess over the killboards are going to actively seek you out because they see you've been killed.
I doubt there's anybody that's ever ventured into lowsec or 0.0 that hasn't been killed at some point.
I'll admit I've only just started playing again (and never advanced far first time around) but if you have your clone up to date and have all your learning and advanced skills maxed do implants really make that much of a difference to training time? I can't see them trimming down training skills to V so significantly that they are absolutely necessary.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:15:00 -
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Quote:
Must have been the most unsatisfactory podding ever for that asshat.
The peoplesicles make it worthwhile, always.
You can get people surprisingly often after their ship has gone pop.
The combined lag from a session change and the insurance mail is often enough.
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Celestial Ascension
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Jump Clones. Get them. Profit.
But you're never in your implant clone. You're either in 0.0 or in a blank clone to deathclone down.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:43:00 -
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Solution:
Remove implants
Make everywhere null sec
Pod OP automatically on undock
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flashfreaking
LFC
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:46:00 -
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LOL, I pvp with my implants, the only way you get podded is if you get trapped in a bubble, and even then. So implants are far from a reason lowsec is empty. And 0.0 is far from empty, so before you make an opinion, try going into lowsec or 0.0 first
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:50:00 -
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The only time I've been podded in the past year and a half was in high sec. |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain
Just get a jump clown
Quote:
BECAUSE OF JUMP CLOWN
Bellum Eternus
Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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T'ealk O'Neil
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:57:00 -
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low sec is a risky place, whether that risk is losing your shiney ship and/or your pod with said implants. It all comes down to risk/reward and experience.
Even if CCP made it that you didn't lose your implants (which would be stupid) then you would come back complaining about the months worth of isk lost through ship losses. If you want risk, then go to low sec, if you don't then stay out! It's not as if you aren't warned about low sec!
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:59:00 -
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Guys, get it roight!
It's JUMP CLOWNS!!!
CLOWNS!!!
Clones are the ****heads that get killed in the StarWars movies so much 
People for Stuff Raffle - No ISK needed
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Generic Pilot
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:03:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Solution:
Remove implants
Make everywhere null sec
Pod OP automatically on undock
A++ epic post
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Ripcha Headov
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:07:00 -
[25]
ROFLMAO!
This post made me giggle..
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Ralara
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:11:00 -
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It's very difficult to get podded in low sec if you know what you're doing.
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PureWoman
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:16:00 -
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not true.
it is very easy to cath a pod in lowsec. You need 2 sensor boosters in your bc.
if you dont escape from your ship befour it explode. you are poded.
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Da Death
Minmatar
Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:32:00 -
[28]
I not like 0.0 because it is just damn boring.
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Curse Absolution Prorator T2 Mods/Drones/Ammo Manufacturer
All generalizations are dangerous, even this one. |
Nigel Sheldon
Caldari
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:35:00 -
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Quote:
lets face it, nobody likes to lose a month-worth isk just because some campgaters did it for the lulz.
a months worth! what sort of implants do you have!! BTW i live in 0-0 and have regular implant top ups :) 21 mill a piece for +4's although i do tend to ignore the chrisma one 
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:35:00 -
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95% of the people who get pod killed are noobs
2% had lot of lag
2% went through rancer
1% was unlucky enough to find a smartbombing bs who killed him outside rancer.
If your pod gets locked by a dual sensor boosted battlecruiser you lost eve.
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Southern Suzy
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Southern Suzy on 16/04/2009 14:41:41
Uhm like most 0.0 pvp'ers i know flock in +4 implants thats like a day missioning on an alt.
And try to be smarter so ya dont lose ur pod???
Originally by: Furb Killer
95% of the people who get pod killed are noobs
2% had lot of lag
2% went through rancer
1% was unlucky enough to find a smartbombing bs who killed him outside rancer.
Not entirely accurate, theres a large percentage not caring about isk and get podded to safe them 40 jumps back in a pod.
So wait this is the end of my post allready?
I'm not in multiple alliances to spy! I'm in them so I'll always be on the winning team |
Da Death
Minmatar
Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:46:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Furb Killer
95% of the people who get pod killed are noobs
2% had lot of lag
2% went through rancer
1% was unlucky enough to find a smartbombing bs who killed him outside rancer.
Not entirely accurate, theres a large percentage not caring about isk and get podded to safe them 40 jumps back in a pod.
I would be one of them
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Curse Absolution Prorator T2 Mods/Drones/Ammo Manufacturer
All generalizations are dangerous, even this one. |
Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.16 14:48:00 -
[33]
Implants are so ridiculously cheap now that Agents give them out that this logic fails.
4 Years ago your arugment was valid. CCP reduced the cost of implants so drastically that it is no longer true. Suck it up and take the risk.
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Solostrom
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Posted - 2009.04.16 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
Lets face it, nobody likes to lose a month-worth isk just because some campgaters did it for the lulz.
Yes you can fly a cheap frigate, but still you can lose your oh so beloved and valued implants!!! The only solution is, jump-clone and get into +2 implants for example. Yes and losing 3attribute points, thus skill training time??? Ha!
Im completely sure if capsules were harder to lock/destroy, much more players would like to enter low sec.
Other secondary reasons why lowsec is empty:
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
- Low rewards (excepting 0.0)
- You can do whatever business over highsec.
It is impossible to lose a pod in losec. When you think your about to die... click on a planet and start spamming the warp zero button. I basically live in nullsec and I really can't remember the last time I lost my pod.
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qpod
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.16 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Solostrom
It is impossible to lose a pod in losec. When you think your about to die... click on a planet and start spamming the warp zero button. I basically live in nullsec and I really can't remember the last time I lost my pod.
Lol. I podded many (with my main) who had similar thoughts. The most lulz when noob undocks in pod to see whats going on and I pod him with smartbomb when he tries to warp out.
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Funtclaps
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Posted - 2009.04.16 15:39:00 -
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I'm sick of my jump clones, I'm gonna have them wiped, now where do I get me one of them new fangled jump clowns? 
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:02:00 -
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Implants. If you have no balls, they make a fine excuse.
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Enjoy, and fly safe.. |
Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:03:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Havohej
Every pod I've ever lost after passing 6M SP or so has been worth at least 150M worth of implants. I don't usually fly with sets of Low-grade pirate implants, but +3's and hardwirings start adding up...
CCP, please add this info to pod mails ;0
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:08:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Forando
Implants. If you have no balls, they make a fine excuse.
This.
I'd rather risk implants or not use them at all than confine myself to the dreary monotony of high-sec space.
~ Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic |
Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:14:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Furb Killer
95% of the people who get pod killed are noobs
2% had lot of lag
2% went through rancer
1% was unlucky enough to find a smartbombing bs who killed him outside rancer.
If your pod gets locked by a dual sensor boosted battlecruiser you lost eve.
79% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature.
Proud ally of CVA |
Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:19:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Chraiz
Does this really matter? It's not like the majority of players obsess over the killboards are going to actively seek you out because they see you've been killed.
I doubt there's anybody that's ever ventured into lowsec or 0.0 that hasn't been killed at some point.
Depending of the rate.
Do whatever you want in low sec, same everything stupid, you will have an history reported on Battleclinic or others anyway.
This can penalize you if you want enter in a 0.0/Low Sec Corp who do some checks. Habitually, they always ask a screenshot of the Character login and some things. I wouldn't be impressed if some of them check Killboards to see if you suck or if you are just a beginner. If for fun, you had 100 losses for 2 kills, I think that this will matter.
A Killboard is a mock tool AND an intel tool.
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Doomed Predator
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:21:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Forando
Implants. If you have no balls, they make a fine excuse.
This, most EVE players just like to make an imaginary number go higher and higher. Heaven forbid it ever drop.
The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
BillyBob Esq
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:21:00 -
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Well, I for one think low sec is lame just for all the random violence (except for when I'm part of the random violence), but you should always consider that you will get podded when you get asploded, so consider your implants as just another part of your ship. Just like how you switch over to cheapfleet set ups if you plan to bumb around low sec, switch to a jump clone without the pricy implants. I do the same thing when I go into wormholes because, as you so rightly point out, losing expensive as all hell implants sucks.
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Ginako
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:22:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Ms Delerium
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
Popped Many Times
Meh, I got nothin to hide
Please resize sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
BAH! - Me
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VoiceInTheDesert
Zebra Corp
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:23:00 -
[45]
If you get podded in lowsec, you're doing something wrong. Or you have a crappy connection. Or both.
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Space Pinata
Amarr
Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:23:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Doomed Predator
Originally by: Forando
Implants. If you have no balls, they make a fine excuse.
This, most EVE players just like to make an imaginary number go higher and higher. Heaven forbid it ever drop.
But.. but.. I just want to wear +5's and take my raven to 0.0 to make more money..
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:24:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Furb Killer
95% of the people who get pod killed are noobs
2% had lot of lag
2% went through rancer
1% was unlucky enough to find a smartbombing bs who killed him outside rancer.
If your pod gets locked by a dual sensor boosted battlecruiser you lost eve.
This. Implant losing is only an issue really when bubbles of nullsec come into play.
Even then, +4s ftw. Just use 2 at a time instead of all 5.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:24:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Southern Suzy
Edited by: Southern Suzy on 16/04/2009 14:41:41
Uhm like most 0.0 pvp'ers i know flock in +4 implants thats like a day missioning on an alt.
More like about ~90 minutes missioning tbh.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:25:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Forando
Implants. If you have no balls, they make a fine excuse.
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Caffeine Junkie
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:27:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Furb Killer
95% of the people who get pod killed are noobs
2% went through rancer
Tbh, these two fall under the same category.
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Atrei Capital
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:31:00 -
[51]
Implants allow you to think it's a good idea to stay in highsec and keep training for those big, expensive ships so you can win at pvp.
Then you finish it and, knowing nothing but missions, rush out to show off your big, expensive ships. Then people kill you.
Then you're allowed a ragewhine, and to run back to highsec to complain about how you can't go to lowsec because of implants.
Remember kids: It's all about getting SP that you'll never use. Sit in highsec for months so you'll be 'ready later'. (Hint: You'll still not feel ready then. Endless cycle.) |
Fuazzole
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:32:00 -
[52]
Jump Clown = 0.1m
5% medium gun dmg hardwire = 2m
Mindlink = 2m
+1-2 implants = next to nuthing
clown replacment 8m
That's my bill for a 51m SP character, let's round that to 15m/pod,...not quite the "month-worth isk"
It seems the problem you have is that you have an adiction to skill points and ISK.. you can't bare to use +2-3's or have your head on some ones trophy room kill board.
...Just know that this problem is a YOU thing,..and does not mean every one else shares your same opinion.
In the militia I see many noobs throwing what ever isk they have into PvP and loving it.
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demonfurbie
Minmatar
Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:35:00 -
[53]
just plug in 2 +4 imps in the category ya plan to train in and before ya get into low sec make sure ya have a long skill set and is training ( now qued but training) and you should be set and after ya die dont jumpclone till that skill is done
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DARTHxFREE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:44:00 -
[54]
Quote:
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
If you have many kills on your killboard and 0 deaths, it just makes you look like a phag.
Real men wear thier death-mails with pride.
Quote:
Lets face it, nobody likes to lose a month-worth isk just because some campgaters did it for the lulz.
Yes you can fly a cheap frigate, but still you can lose your oh so beloved and valued implants!!! The only solution is, jump-clone and get into +2 implants for example. Yes and losing 3attribute points, thus skill training time??? Ha!
Im completely sure if capsules were harder to lock/destroy, much more players would like to enter low sec.
Other secondary reasons why lowsec is empty:
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
- Low rewards (excepting 0.0)
- You can do whatever business over highsec.
I can't decifer wether your sin is Greed or Glutony, but deff care to much for ISK & SP.
/join Cheeze & Whine Club
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:45:00 -
[55]
Quote:
If you have many kills on your killboard and 0 deaths, it just makes you look like a phag.
Real men wear thier death-mails with pride.
What the squid said.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:53:00 -
[56]
Quote:
If you have many kills on your killboard and 0 deaths, it just makes you look like a phag.
Real men wear thier death-mails with pride.
Death-mails show that you actually know how to fight — not just farm afk newbies. That, or that you suck so much that you feel the need to hide it… 
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:53:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Ms Delerium
Lets face it, nobody likes to lose a month-worth isk just because some campgaters did it for the lulz.
Yes you can fly a cheap frigate, but still you can lose your oh so beloved and valued implants!!! The only solution is, jump-clone and get into +2 implants for example. Yes and losing 3attribute points, thus skill training time??? Ha!
Im completely sure if capsules were harder to lock/destroy, much more players would like to enter low sec.
Other secondary reasons why lowsec is empty:
- Killboards, it sucks that all the community knew you been popped several times.
- Low rewards (excepting 0.0)
- You can do whatever business over highsec.
I'm ashamed that we share the same face.
Implants do not keep me from going to low sec. High sec being 100x better keeps me from going to low sec. However, I do travel through low sec a lot and never even think of changing to my +0 implant clone.
Why? Because only a complete ****** can get his pod locked in low sec. With warp spam its nearly impossible for someone who is at the controls to not warp fast. If a cruiser even gets half way through locking you, you are a failure and deserve to be podded.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:55:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Sader Rykane on 16/04/2009 16:56:27
double post...
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Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:57:00 -
[59]
To the OP:
How do you lose a pod in low sec? Except for Rancer and 0,000001% of the time in other systems its completely risk free. Only thing capable of getting you in low sec is smartbombs. I have lived in low sec with a 600 million clone for morw than 2 years now, without ever losing a pod. I really dont see how this can be an issue. It is so god damn easy to get a pod out as you can practically warp out of your exploding ship.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.16 17:03:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Atrei Capital
Implants allow you to think it's a good idea to stay in highsec and keep training for those big, expensive ships so you can win at pvp.
Then you finish it and, knowing nothing but missions, rush out to show off your big, expensive ships. Then people kill you.
Then you're allowed a ragewhine, and to run back to highsec to complain about how you can't go to lowsec because of implants.
Remember kids: It's all about getting SP that you'll never use. Sit in highsec for months so you'll be 'ready later'. (Hint: You'll still not feel ready then. Endless cycle.)
And what of the players that DO wait and come into low sec with much more options than a newbie and actually benefit, and... GASP, actually do some serious damage with all that SP they were patient enough to wait for? We never hear anything about them of course, its much more fun to just toss out common generalizations.
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Space Pinata
Amarr
Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.16 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Atrei Capital
Implants allow you to think it's a good idea to stay in highsec and keep training for those big, expensive ships so you can win at pvp.
Then you finish it and, knowing nothing but missions, rush out to show off your big, expensive ships. Then people kill you.
Then you're allowed a ragewhine, and to run back to highsec to complain about how you can't go to lowsec because of implants.
Remember kids: It's all about getting SP that you'll never use. Sit in highsec for months so you'll be 'ready later'. (Hint: You'll still not feel ready then. Endless cycle.)
And what of the players that DO wait and come into low sec with much more options than a newbie and actually benefit, and... GASP, actually do some serious damage with all that SP they were patient enough to wait for? We never hear anything about them of course, its much more fun to just toss out common generalizations.
Those players will be less effective and experienced than the ones who -didn't- wait and spent all that time learning how to pvp, rather than learning skills at a slightly higher rate. (This is even on the assumption that pvpers can't wear implants, which is just plain silly.)
If you've gone up to 20M SP without ever leaving highsec, you're not going to come out effective, you're going to come out as a target noob in a tech2 ship.
(You're assuming the newbie won't have the same options by the time the highsec player does, too~ the only difference is they also have weeks/months of experience to go along with it.) |
Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Siri Blue
I got a few jump clowns....and I don't use any implants in 0.0 at all...
One dictor and you go *pop*
Don't lose your ship inside bubble. Duh. Bubble exists for three things:
1. Hold Supercaps.
2. Give gang time to get points on targets as they're burning out of the bubble - otherwise they'd potentially just warp away before tacklers got points.
3. Pod noobs who don't burn out of the bubble.
Now that the Devs have nerfed falcons into uselessness I think bubbles will be next.
They are extremely overpowered since there isn't any counter to them at all other than try to outrun the lock times of tacklers.
Until today that is, T3 ships can now have bubble immunity...
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:16:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Now that the Devs have nerfed falcons into uselessness I think bubbles will be next.
Lol. No.
Then again, if that's what you believe, I'll be glad to buy your Falcon at a reasonable price: 10mil — should be plenty compensation for a useless ship.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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ThrashPower
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:19:00 -
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Is this a learning skills whine thread in disguise, if so I agree 100% with op.
remove learning skills from the game!!!!
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:24:00 -
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This thread would be more impressive if the OP had actually visited low sec much less 0.0 more than once.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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None Megaflops
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:43:00 -
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I learn more in a minute in o.3 or o.o than a week in high sec. Period! 
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:04:00 -
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A lot of people here are trolling OP because what he says is stupid in theory and not relevant to their experience, but, in practice, this process happens a lot:
1) noob frolics in hi-sec
2) noob goes to lowsec and/or 0.0 and gets podded with expensive (for them) implants from lag or bubble.
3) goes back to hisec worried about losing training time and expensive implant sets, avoids pvp
4) realizes the joys of jump clones, goes back to lowsec/0.0 space for pvp
The problem is that a lot of people have a worse experience of EVE during steps 2 and 3, and I'd be unsurprised if the predominate number of lost subscriptions that aren't very early on come from people in step 3. Yes, its dumb to stay in hisec because of implants, but, the way things are structured many people think that for quite some time, and its a serious problem, because the perceived problem keeps them in empire, whatever the actual issue is.
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