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Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:43:00 - [31] Originally by: BoBoZoBo For One - They ARE working during downtime to make your ontime experience better. It not like we are paying for them to lay around. Two - How do you know that the current pricing structure does not incorporate an (unjustified) discount for the downtime already? Three - Get over it. yup original price is 15.65$ (15.65/24)*23 = 15$
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:43:00 - [32] You can access the forums during downtime, so use them. You have to pay for your account to be on here too, so it's fully justified. Of course, if EvE was down for an entire week (some people would explode) then it would make sense. But "stopping the timer" for downtime is just stupid. You know that EVE is 23/7, so... (Luckily downtime hits at 6AM here ) Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. Proud ally of CVA
Madam Isk	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:44:00 - [33] Since your characters still train during downtime no biggie IMO ;)
Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:47:00 - [34] We should totally get our 45 minutes a day back! I mean... look at all the expansions we have to pay for! Oh wait...
Atnal Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:52:00 - [35] Missing out of an $2 dollars a month of game time really isn't that concerning to me.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:55:00 - [36] Could someone please provide a punctuated version of the OP so I can explain why it's wrong? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:57:00 - [37] Originally by: Tippia Could someone please provide a punctuated version of the OP so I can explain why it's wrong? In short, He doesn't want Down-time hours to come out of the time he pays for.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:10:00 - [38] Your reimbursement: 0.50 $ Transaction fee: 3.00 $ You owe CCP: 2.50 $ Better pay up. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Crimsona Endarius	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:12:00 - [39] You agreed to pay for the down time when you pressed the yellow link that said something about accepting the terms of use according to CCP. At least I think you did. I wonder if anyone bothers to read em.
Kassasis Dakkstromri Caldari Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:16:00 - [40] 2 words: FREE EXPANSIONS... Now stop whinning

Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:20:00 - [41] FIRST
Magnus Orin Minmatar Northern Storm Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:26:00 - [42] I'm so glad that DT is at around 5am in my timezone. It's practically the least likely time I would ever want to be online. ________
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:29:00 - [43] More seriously. Yes you're complaining about downtime — simply saying you don't doesn't make it so. You are also almost entirely wrong for one simple reason: you are not paying for 720 hours worth of server access — you are paying for 30 days, and that's what you get. What constitutes a "day" is defined in the EULA you accepted when creating the account. For the most part, it cold be defined as the period 12.00 GMT — 11.00 GMT ¦ extended services and early starts. If you don't agree with this definition of a "day" then you're free to end your contract. If don't get the full set of 30 days then you might have some cause for complaint, but since you're just fussing about a couple of hours that you've agreed are irrelevant, you don't have much of an argument. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:30:00 - [44] Between work and sleep I had 14 hours of free time to do stuff over easter weekend (Friday to monday). I demand CCP refund me for the bank holiday days that I missed since it is more deserving than this little downtime today. Or CCP can make something bad happen to the OP, this would please me too.
AkRoYeR Amarr	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Wadddi I'm not complaining about the downtime it has to be done but we our subscriptions still tick down during downtime and with extended downtime like today it can all add up at the end of the month your missing about 30 hours a month with no downtime except normal downtime but with extended it can be even longer i think it should be paused while in downtime so we are only paying for when the servers are up this is just a suggestion please don't flame. Yes, and CCP should refund your subscription for the time your sleeping right?
Jezabel deWinter deWinter Enterprises	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Tippia More seriously. Yes you're complaining about downtime ù simply saying you don't doesn't make it so. You are also almost entirely wrong for one simple reason: you are not paying for 720 hours worth of server access ù you are paying for 30 days, and that's what you get. What constitutes a "day" is defined in the EULA you accepted when creating the account. For the most part, it cold be defined as the period 12.00 GMT ù 11.00 GMT ¦ extended services and early starts. If you don't agree with this definition of a "day" then you're free to end your contract. If don't get the full set of 30 days then you might have some cause for complaint, but since you're just fussing about a couple of hours that you've agreed are irrelevant, you don't have much of an argument. That should be cross posted to all games that have the same subscription model whenever a topic like this pops up. I think a kitten dies somewhere whenever someone complains about paying for downtime.
Dark Soldat Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:35:00 - [47] WOULD YOU LIKE COOKIES WITH THAT? Because i certainly would.
Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:41:00 - [48] Wow, thats a lot of flaming for a guy who just wanted to express some frustration. Grumpy much?
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Jer Bu Wow, thats a lot of flaming for a guy who just wanted to express some frustration. Grumpy much? Military experts are calling this an alt post Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator
Kazah'dur Vorlonis Amarr Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:56:00 - [50] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i totally know lol! i sometime also sleep which means i am not playing eve which means i should get my sub refunded hehe Lies! My posts are my views solely and do not reflect or represent my corporation or alliance in any form whatsoever.

PI Staker	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:00:00 - [51] I work and go to school! can i get refunded for that? But seriously, without the 1 hour downtime every day, that would probably constitute longer downtimes at irregular intervals to fix problems as they arise. relate a 1 hour downtime to taking vitamins every morning
Towelieban Minmatar D00M.	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:03:00 - [52] its not really free when the base pay per month is a bit higher then almost all other mmo's so they also recieve more income per person being subscribed. and they mostly deliver 1 expansion disguised as 2 patch days very far apart from another
nails Caldari Ota Corps	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:05:00 - [53] Originally by: Wadddi I'm not complaining about the downtime it has to be done but we our subscriptions still tick down during downtime and with extended downtime like today it can all add up at the end of the month your missing about 30 hours a month with no downtime except normal downtime but with extended it can be even longer i think it should be paused while in downtime so we are only paying for when the servers are up this is just a suggestion please don't flame. How about we charge you for the expansions instead as compensation for your lost game time. -------------- http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/
Chipan Asty	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:05:00 - [54] Originally by: Kaidem Downtime is minimal in my opinion compared to some other games I have played. Also we do not pay for expansions so I see it as fair trade-off. Agreed with downtime being minimal and I personally have no probs with it, but free expansions? What do you think our subscriptions are paying for? Again no complaints, but don't be fooled in to thinking CCP are paying for the expansions out of their own pocket and then giving them to us for free.
Lazarann Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:05:00 - [55] Would you rather pay for each expansion like most games?
Koori LifeLine Solutions	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:06:00 - [56] Move to China. In this beautiful country of freedom you pay for every hour of actual gameplay. You have a choice. LFLS is recruiting explorers - check our recruitment thread
Gabriel Loki	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:09:00 - [57] Originally by: Wadddi I'm not complaining about the downtime it has to be done but we our subscriptions still tick down during downtime and with extended downtime like today it can all add up at the end of the month your missing about 30 hours a month with no downtime except normal downtime but with extended it can be even longer i think it should be paused while in downtime so we are only paying for when the servers are up this is just a suggestion please don't flame. Your skills still train. Its a well advertised downtime. All MMO's have paid DT (which is actually because of falcon), at least eve's is predictible. ??? Profit
Chipan Asty	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:09:00 - [58] I AM paying for each expansion with my subscription fees. I could be wrong, but CCP staff don't work on an expansion without getting payed (perhaps a mod could confirm or deny this )
Dong Ninja	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:11:00 - [59] Oh god, it costs me 1.8 cents during downtime each day. THE MONSTERS AT CCP ARE STEALING MY MILK MONEY Originally by: Xen Gin Indeed, upgrading an MS OS is like taking a **** into a cake mixture, then complaining that it doesn't taste good when it's all done.
Gabriel Loki	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:13:00 - [60] Originally by: Chipan Asty I AM paying for each expansion with my subscription fees. I could be wrong, but CCP staff don't work on an expansion without getting payed (perhaps a mod could confirm or deny this ) Try telling the guys at every other mmo that you have already paid for the expansions.



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