Originally by: Sophie Daigneau

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Trust me when I say we aren't that sophisticated....yet.

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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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Originally by: Sophie Daigneau

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Trust me when I say we aren't that sophisticated....yet.

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Unfortunately, yes you guys are and many of you under the goon banner have no idea how complex and sophisticated of an operation it has grown into. Some of us are that anal about who we know, who we talk to, saving our conversation, market logs, etc... and this is at least what I know about goons (also having been a member of the SA forums for quite some time as well)

At least portions of 'you guys', and I use the term loosely since portions of Goons often operate like a weird collection of contractors and sub-contractors working towards a common goal of building something, anything really, have instances where one whole wing has no idea what the other wings are doing outside of they happen to be in the same alliance. Then there are portions of the alliance that do operate in the strictest sense of what you would imagine a military/industrial corporation does.

There is the goon face that everyone all knows and hates. These members operate often of their own accord and often have no idea what the upper echelon of goons do outside of "They provide the ships and resources for me to enjoy my greifing career". These folks often include the scammers we've come to know and hate, many of which have graced our presence here in the forums.

Then there are other facets that operate as said before, as a loose collection of contractors and sub contractors working towards a common building goal. These are the capital wings, production ends, and industrial corps that fly under the goon banner and often have no relationship to the goon face we know, again outside of happen to being under their banner.

And finally there is the more sinister portion of goons. The ones who run the show, the ones in the know, and the ones who pull this whole mess together. These are the folks we never see and really we never will. Obscured by many alts, accounts, etc... most of the time you'll only ever see who 'they' are by occasional posts on the various forums other than the EVEO ones.

But Im sure some of you goons will argue with me that this isnt the case, and its okay we'll just have to agree to disagree cause to be perfectly frank. Most of you really have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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Originally by: Sophie Daigneau

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Trust me when I say we aren't that sophisticated....yet.

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Unfortunately, yes you guys are and many of you under the goon banner have no idea how complex and sophisticated of an operation it has grown into. Some of us are that anal about who we know, who we talk to, saving our conversation, market logs, etc... and this is at least what I know about goons (also having been a member of the SA forums for quite some time as well)

At least portions of 'you guys', and I use the term loosely since portions of Goons often operate like a weird collection of contractors and sub-contractors working towards a common goal of building something, anything really, have instances where one whole wing has no idea what the other wings are doing outside of they happen to be in the same alliance. Then there are portions of the alliance that do operate in the strictest sense of what you would imagine a military/industrial corporation does.

There is the goon face that everyone all knows and hates. These members operate often of their own accord and often have no idea what the upper echelon of goons do outside of "They provide the ships and resources for me to enjoy my greifing career". These folks often include the scammers we've come to know and hate, many of which have graced our presence here in the forums.

Then there are other facets that operate as said before, as a loose collection of contractors and sub contractors working towards a common building goal. These are the capital wings, production ends, and industrial corps that fly under the goon banner and often have no relationship to the goon face we know, again outside of happen to being under their banner.

And finally there is the more sinister portion of goons. The ones who run the show, the ones in the know, and the ones who pull this whole mess together. These are the folks we never see and really we never will. Obscured by many alts, accounts, etc... most of the time you'll only ever see who 'they' are by occasional posts on the various forums other than the EVEO ones.

But Im sure some of you goons will argue with me that this isnt the case, and its okay we'll just have to agree to disagree cause to be perfectly frank. Most of you really have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i swear that we, honorable space goons, would never use our chokehold on the biggest concentration of r64s in the game to manipulate the market for our own profits and screwing over the innocent denizens of the market discussion subforum

and we would certainly never ever ever EVER collude in a r64 cartel with our long-time allies in pandemic legion and tau ceti federation, who control the second and third largest concentration of r64s in the game respectively

that would be mean :o

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i swear that we, honorable space goons

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i swear that we, honorable space goons, would never use our chokehold on the biggest concentration of r64s in the game to manipulate the market for our own profits and screwing over the innocent denizens of the market discussion subforum

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Originally by: PublicRelations Kwint

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i swear that we, honorable space goons, would never use our chokehold on the biggest concentration of r64s in the game to manipulate the market for our own profits and screwing over the innocent denizens of the market discussion subforum

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There are three groups,

The majority of EvE that is going to get screwed by this
The minority that are too poor or unskilled to fly T2, like goons, who are unaffected
The tiny fraction of people that stockpile stuff like this and stand to make a big profit, also known as MD

So thank you Mittens, that pile of fermionic condensates I've been sitting on is about to make me a very sweet profit.

PS Can you do something about technetium while you're at it? Nothing ridiculous, just double my money if you have a sec.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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mostly we're just eager to see the tears if you boys in md feel like getting loaded off dis, by all means

oh yeah obv we also hope to profit ourselves but the tears are p. key

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Originally by: Viktor Raybach

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Apologies for the threadjack

Corestwo, would you be persuadable to post a thread/info dump regarding Goonfleet Investment Bank? Goonfleet has some peculiar characteristics all of its own from a market/investment perspective and I was academically curious as to how you operate as opposed to ebank/dbank.

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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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And finally there is the more sinister portion of goons. The ones who run the show, the ones in the know, and the ones who pull this whole mess together. These are the folks we never see and really we never will. Obscured by many alts, accounts, etc... most of the time you'll only ever see who 'they' are by occasional posts on the various forums other than the EVEO ones.

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Originally by: corestwo

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Incidentally, Kazzac's analysis of the structure inside goonswarm is not too far off. He's just missing certain bits of info.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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I swear that we, honorable space goons, would never use our chokehold on the biggest concentration of r64s in the game to manipulate the market for our own profit. Nor would we screw over the innocent denizens of the market discussion subforum. We would certainly NEVER collude in a r64 cartel with our long-time allies, pandemic legion and tau ceti federation, who control the second and third largest concentration of r64s in the game respectively.

That would be mean and Goons have always been dedicated to nice.

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