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HawkBlade
Minmatar The Higher Standard Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:03:00 -
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Couple of things:
1 - 7 Accounts to Audit. Gonna take a bit longer than expected.
2 - Smooth one Bobby. Bring up all the vulnerabilities that push this IPO into providing you with a client and security holding. (Just so you know that you did not get that one past unnoticed.)
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Bobby on 29/04/2009 16:19:57
Originally by: HawkBlade
Smooth one Bobby. Bring up all the vulnerabilities that push this IPO into providing you with a client and security holding. (Just so you know that you did not get that one past unnoticed.)
I'll take that as a compliment ... A man has to make a living one way or another doesn't he?
I must confess I've been waiting all day for this post from you, I knew you would have something to say about my antics but I was actually expecting something a little more... well you know... harsh!

In any case, I think you have to agree that some level of security is needed on something of this size. If it wasn't me, it would be someone else, I just got up earlier than the competition.
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HawkBlade
Minmatar The Higher Standard Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby In any case, I think you have to agree that some level of security is needed on something of this size. If it wasn't me, it would be someone else, I just got up earlier than the competition.
There's a time for self interest to be involved and then there's self promotional. I agree that some form of security and service would make this IPO more attractive but I see it as a conflict of interest the way your promoted vulnerabilities that dovetail with your own services. Understandable, yes. Commendable, no.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:42:00 -
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I saw the vulnerability and I saw the oppertunity, I took it.
Ji Sama will soon have my skills working alongside him so we'll soon see if this marginal conflict of interest turns into a unique selling point all of its own.
But I'll rest my case on this, it's up to Ji and the investors.
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HawkBlade
Minmatar The Higher Standard Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby I saw the vulnerability and I saw the oppertunity, I took it.
Please don't mistake me. I'm not saying you were wrong. I'll leave this alone now though.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:47:00 -
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I see this as a win-win situation, while i am not ignorant to the fact what bobby did here. I am not some puppet that just goes along with who ever crashed my IPO thread. With that being said, i agree 100% with shar's statement, it was a slick move, promoting yourself and at the same time securing a client. :D but i dont mind, i would have said so if it was a problem :D
@shar it is no problem, i know its a large work load i have asked you to help me with, no matter the outcome i will make it worth your time, again thanks for doing this :D
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.29 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 29/04/2009 18:00:54 I've been doing business with Ji lately and suffice to say we are both satisfied how things turned out. Looking forward to further develop our business relations after you get the much needed capital.
P.S. Hoping for another discount! Also, the three submarines you have requested are approaching completion.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 29/04/2009 18:30:05
Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 29/04/2009 18:23:36 I've been doing business with Ji lately and suffice to say we are both satisfied how things turned out. Looking forward to further develop our business relation after you get the much needed capital.
You'll get investors whether you provide collateral or not, IMHO running your business via the corp wallet and accepting an alt of a trusted MD member as director in your corp to counter a sudden disappearance event will do. Of course you might learn something from working with Bad Bobby, the choice is yours.
thanks for dropping by YGR :D confirming that YGR has bought over 6.5B worth of minerals... also confirming that we are both happy with this arrangement, due to limits on my behalf, i have had to set it on standby, while stockpiling! this is only temp. though, next batch will be done next week..
anyways... you are absolutely right, i could do this without security, for that matter i could do this without an audit. I could have sold all 49K shares on the first day, and i could have done this without going to the MD..
So why did i do this? Why did i decide to provide an audit and security (without limiting my profit ofc) I did it because i believe in the MD. I did it because i dont think it would be healthy for the secondary market if i just steamrolled this investment through. There are safety mechanism and procedures that i think is essential if the secondary market is to protect itself.
Anyways. thanks for bringing up a nice point :D
See you ingame :p
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Keyser Kahn
Stellar-Parallax Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:39:00 -
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From reading through this IPO and based upon the responses above my post and discussion with the OP in SCC-Lounge I would like to make the following offer:
I am happy to underwrite 3 billion of this venture for a period of 3 months. Money to be deposited with Dbank or Ebank in an interest bearing account that I do not have access to until 3 months from the commencement of the IPO (ofc I would want any interest generated for the period).
I have not made enquiries to either institution at this moment but will do should MD in general feel that this would be beneficial to the launch of this IPO.
This offer reflects my view of the OP and abilities and is also based on previous experience with Ji Sama.
By my reckoning that would bring the secured level of the ipo that is currently un-allocated to 50% (albeit my 3 bill only for a period of 3 months). For an IPO in general this would be a level of security that I would be happy investing in.
Regardless - good luck with this venture Ji 
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Indy Indy
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:43:00 -
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I'm going to have to say that after reading all 4 pages, I can't see much risk left in this IPO. Ji has done more than a fair job of trying to figure out ways to secure this IPO and working towards resolving any concerns potential investors have. This to me shows a level of commitment that I think will be needed to make this IPO work. Make sure to let me know as soon as I can researve some bstock shares. Nice work Ji.
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Indy Indy I'm going to have to say that after reading all 4 pages, I can't see much risk left in this IPO. Ji has done more than a fair job of trying to figure out ways to secure this IPO and working towards resolving any concerns potential investors have. This to me shows a level of commitment that I think will be needed to make this IPO work. Make sure to let me know as soon as I can researve some bstock shares. Nice work Ji.
There's still plenty of risk, but 50% secured is a reasonable mitigation.
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.04.29 22:51:00 -
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I would like to confirm I will underwrite this with 1.5B of current cash holdings.
In addition I am confirming that should the need arise Merotech owned and governed by Ji Sama holds a claim in my current assets of 2.5B as seen in earlier notary post.
In conclusion I am confirming that SCS is servicing this IPO's rather extensive needs, and will upon conclusion have a number part of the service price paid in BSHARES.(amount undetermined at present moment)
PS: Wishing you clear skies ahead on your endeavours Ji Sama
- Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.30 08:45:00 -
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Alright... Thanks to all for contributing to this thread, and thanks to those that showed support :D
Its gonna go down like this.. Bobby will get control over our POS and all our BPO's (the ones that are worth anything anyways.) ie estimated 6B Keyser will underwrite for 3B Caleb will underwrite for 4B Thats 13B total in security... More than 55% of the total IPO To top that, i will insure the investors that the next big bond that matures will be fully invested into a 3rd party and be locked down for an interest over 7%
That should bring the total securities up to 23B ie. 95% of the IPO.. I can do this without cutting to much into my profit. All securities run on a 3 mth basis. After the 3 mths, some of the securities are highly likely to be pulled, and reinvested into more profitable areas...
Thank you all again, for helping me launch this IPO. Also a big thanks to all the investors. I have no doubt in my mind / pending shars audit ofc. that this IPO will be filled over the weekend.
Take care all..
(in general, i am not availible this evening as i have some RL meetings etc.. Just so you dont think i am ignoring any questions etc.)
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.30 21:18:00 -
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BSTOCK shares will be open for reservations in 3 hours. Remember do not send ISK to Ji Sama. All reservations are pending audit...
Confirming that 49K shares have been transferred to SCS!
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Keyser Kahn
Stellar-Parallax Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.30 21:51:00 -
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Just to confirm that I have transferred 3 billion to Dbank to be locked down to the end of July. Funds to be released to the investors should that become necessary.
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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
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Posted - 2009.04.30 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Manalapan on 30/04/2009 22:05:54 Edited by: Manalapan on 30/04/2009 22:02:13 I am confirming that Dynasty Banking is now holding 3,000,000,000.00
These funds are locked down for the next 3 months and will be released at continued success at that time or returned to investors at the failure of this IPO.
EDIT: Better Explanation
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GuildNavigator
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:17:00 -
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reserving 450 B-shares for 225M (+ 50 A-shares for 25M) totals the sum at 250.000.000 isk (250M).
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:23:00 -
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I'd like to reserve 400 B-shares (for 200M) please.
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Chris15
RennTech Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:30:00 -
[109]
I'd like to reserve 100 shares (50million ISK)
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:48:00 -
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In to confirm I have recieved the 49.000 TMP shares.
Awaiting Audit and recieving the complete ledger of shareholders.
- Money is Love - Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways.
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:01:00 -
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I would like to reserve 200 shares at 500,000 ISK each (100,000,000 ISK value), please.
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Varo Jan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:21:00 -
[112]
I'd like to reserve 200 B shares - 100M ISK, please.
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B's Mogul
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:31:00 -
[113]
I would like to reserve 1,000 shares (500M ISK) please.
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Miyuki Suzumiya
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Posted - 2009.05.01 01:02:00 -
[114]
I would like to reserve 4,000 shares (2Bil ISK) please.
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Companion Qube
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Posted - 2009.05.01 01:05:00 -
[115]
Pending an audit I'd like to reserve 1B in shares.
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Aakmer
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Posted - 2009.05.01 01:10:00 -
[116]
Would like to reserve 100 shares (50M ISK).
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RED 5N4kE
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Posted - 2009.05.01 01:59:00 -
[117]
Would like to reserve 100 shares (50M ISK). thx
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Victoria Akmea
Gallente Sentient Biotechnology Invention
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Posted - 2009.05.01 03:10:00 -
[118]
Victoria Akmea would like to reserve 100 shares. (50 Million Interstellar Kredits)
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Indy Indy
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Posted - 2009.05.01 03:16:00 -
[119]
Confirming my order for 300 shares (150mil value)
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Selina Candor
Chernobyl Trading Corporation
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Posted - 2009.05.01 03:49:00 -
[120]
Like to reserve 300 BShares in addition to the 300 AShares reserved. Total being 300mil worth.
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