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Maxivo
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.01 16:26:00 -
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So this morning I got in to work a tad early and went through the usual routine of pulling on my overalls and rigger boots (half a sleep I must admit). I then headed over to the office to grab myself a nice strong coffee. But whats this lieing next to the coffee machine?? A letter with my full name on it...
"GREAT!" I thought, thinking it was my first wage slip...
Instead it was a letter of dismissal, focussing on the fact that I am a great heavy plant mechanic / machine operator and a much valued member of the team.. BUT there is unfortunatley no work left. This is the third time this year ive been laid off because there is simply "no more work left".
What the hell do I do now?!?! Go on the job hunt again?? Just to get paid off 3 weeks later??
Going from a grand a week to the god awful ú90 a fortnight the jobcentre gives you is just heartbreaking.. My only other options are to head out to norway and work a year on then a year off or head back to college and train to be something else. I really dont want to do either tho. I enjoy my current profession and im constantly being told im **** hot at what I do. I dont want to go to norway as ive just got myself a new girlfriend (been with her for 4 months now and its going perfect) and I have a 6 month old german shepard. Leaving them both behind would be heartbreaking..
I cant live on this dole money tho.. End off..
Someone give me some advice .
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Irulan S'Dijana
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.01 16:30:00 -
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Protip: Work for a government if you can, even if it's not directly relevent to your field. Economy tanks -> govt spends on economy -> govt departments expand to carry out government's wishes.
As an example, I'm an economic refugee posing as a civil servent in Australia, and the Australia's capital is the only city in the country where employment is down, housing prices are up, car sales are up etcetc. In fact I heard today there wer exactly 152 homeless people at last count, and 352 homeless-housing beds available in the city.
- Nobody gets rich in this business. You simply obtain new levels of relative poverty. |

KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.05.01 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: KingsGambit on 01/05/2009 16:57:36 Sorry to hear about your bad luck Maxivo. I know first hand how you feel, having been made redundant myself in mid-2003 when my company lost their contract with BT and had to lose the team of about 20 of us working on it. I was looking for a very long time till I found a good job in a school, and now I'm in the public sector am thankfully immune to most of the turmoil private business is going thru.
You've been paying national insurance your whole working life and some of that is due you now, so even though it's disheartening, you shouldn't feel bad about getting some money back from govmt you are rightly entitled to. If you're really averse to training or returning to study, I can only suggest you be prepared to move to find work and look a little further afield than you otherwise might have. Though many companies are struggling right now, there are plenty that are still turning profits, and if you're good as you say you will find something.
Make sure the job center and any agencies (local, online, specialist field, etc) are also looking for you. Might be worth checking out the company a little in advance to see how they're faring financially before taking on a role with them, maybe check who they're clients are. At the same time, it might be worth you taking whatever comes your way as a stopgap if you can, so at least you're earning and in emplyment, whilst you continue to look.
Was it just you, or were any other of your colleagues also treated to a similar letter today? How big is the company? Good company to work for? Did they give you some form of redundancy payment to help for at least a couple of months? Wish you all the best for the future. -------------
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Taelech
Caldari Caldari Design and Cryogenics
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Posted - 2009.05.01 16:54:00 -
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Have you ever considered working on an offshore platform? It is very hard work, but the pay is good. I think they are pretty much always looking for people with good mechanical and repair skills... just a thought. Hope you find work soon.
Taelech - Professor emeritus - Caldari Business Tribunal School of Law
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:12:00 -
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join the navy :p
they are always looking for peopel with there hands correctly on
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DasDizzy
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:43:00 -
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remember that in the navy, you can sail the seven seas
[SIG START]
Everything i say is the view of the rest of the eve cluster, IM THE PRESSDUDE FFS
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FOl2TY8
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.05.01 18:24:00 -
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No advice for you man but good luck. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.01 18:39:00 -
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Work on an oilrig!
Pomp FTW!!! |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Maxivo So this morning I got in to work a tad early and went through the usual routine of pulling on my overalls and rigger boots (half a sleep I must admit). I then headed over to the office to grab myself a nice strong coffee. But whats this lieing next to the coffee machine?? A letter with my full name on it...
"GREAT!" I thought, thinking it was my first wage slip...
Instead it was a letter of dismissal, focussing on the fact that I am a great heavy plant mechanic / machine operator and a much valued member of the team.. BUT there is unfortunatley no work left. This is the third time this year ive been laid off because there is simply "no more work left".
What the hell do I do now?!?! Go on the job hunt again?? Just to get paid off 3 weeks later??
Going from a grand a week to the god awful ú90 a fortnight the jobcentre gives you is just heartbreaking.. My only other options are to head out to norway and work a year on then a year off or head back to college and train to be something else. I really dont want to do either tho. I enjoy my current profession and im constantly being told im **** hot at what I do. I dont want to go to norway as ive just got myself a new girlfriend (been with her for 4 months now and its going perfect) and I have a 6 month old german shepard. Leaving them both behind would be heartbreaking..
I cant live on this dole money tho.. End off..
Someone give me some advice .
You -> Norway, and be glad you have the option.
Save as much as you can.
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Maxivo So this morning I got in to work a tad early and went through the usual routine of pulling on my overalls and rigger boots (half a sleep I must admit). I then headed over to the office to grab myself a nice strong coffee. But whats this lieing next to the coffee machine?? A letter with my full name on it...
"GREAT!" I thought, thinking it was my first wage slip...
Instead it was a letter of dismissal, focussing on the fact that I am a great heavy plant mechanic / machine operator and a much valued member of the team.. BUT there is unfortunatley no work left. This is the third time this year ive been laid off because there is simply "no more work left".
What the hell do I do now?!?! Go on the job hunt again?? Just to get paid off 3 weeks later??
Going from a grand a week to the god awful ú90 a fortnight the jobcentre gives you is just heartbreaking.. My only other options are to head out to norway and work a year on then a year off or head back to college and train to be something else. I really dont want to do either tho. I enjoy my current profession and im constantly being told im **** hot at what I do. I dont want to go to norway as ive just got myself a new girlfriend (been with her for 4 months now and its going perfect) and I have a 6 month old german shepard. Leaving them both behind would be heartbreaking..
I cant live on this dole money tho.. End off..
Someone give me some advice .
You -> Norway, and be glad you have the option.
Save as much as you can.
and if the money is good enough, take dog and girlfriend...? Ok, so no real advice but good luck in any event! ~~~~ There is no parody in this thread. Honest. |

Elora Danzik
Caldari Idiots In Spaceships Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:26:00 -
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting a different result.
Norway is an option.
So is offshore rig. So is expanding or changing your skill base. I don't know about the UK, but in the US they sometimes pay you to do it.
There must be some kind of govn't program.
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EliteSlave
Minmatar Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.02 03:00:00 -
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umm can i get a sponsor to move to norway? haha
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Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2009.05.02 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Maxivo
Going from a grand a week.
No offense but if you were earning that much money then you should have saved ú500 a week and lived off the other ú500, if you had done this then you would have the funds to get you through this rough patch.
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EliteSlave
Minmatar Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.02 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulous
Originally by: Maxivo
Going from a grand a week.
No offense but if you were earning that much money then you should have saved ú500 a week and lived off the other ú500, if you had done this then you would have the funds to get you through this rough patch.
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Grand a week, would barely pay my housing expenses....
2900$ - Mortgage 300$ - Insurance 500 - Water / Gas 200 - Electricity 100 - Internet / Cable
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luurch
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Posted - 2009.05.02 21:58:00 -
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Dude, I feel particularly gutted for you. Hate to see people who are actually good at something out of work :(
I was very nearly in the same position, but my company found me work in London. It did mean moving south from Manchester and renting out my beautiful house to strangers, but damn.. i nearly ****ing died at the prospect of losing that place completely so i jumped at the chance..
Only suggestion i can bring to you.. would the new lady move with you? I know you guys have only been together for 4 months, but these things can make relationships lots of fun if your both into the idea..
Seriously, Best of luck for the future!
P.s. to the guy who told you ya should have saved half your wages. "Get into the real world and then say that ass wipe! You ALWAYS live to your means, and investing half your wages when you have a whole load of responsibilities is almost always a no go. I earn 3 x what i did 5 years ago (ú600 per week) yet a mortgage, a car, paying off my education and actually enjoying life a little takes ALL of that money.. ****ing smart ass students eh?"
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.05.03 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Brea Lafail on 03/05/2009 00:09:10 The trick is to keep up the student life style for as long as you can stand. My living expenses are about... 500 pounds/month (I don't know how to make that fancy symbol of yours).
Also, yeah, you have my sympathy, op. Lot of places "re-evaluating their staffing needs." In before Ralara. |

Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2009.05.03 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: Nebulous on 03/05/2009 07:18:08
Originally by: EliteSlave
Grand a week, would barely pay my housing expenses....
2900$ - Mortgage 300$ - Insurance 500 - Water / Gas 200 - Electricity 100 - Internet / Cable
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1) I was not quoting yourself. 2) If you read the OP you will see he is referring to pounds (UK Currency), it is quite easy to live on ú500 a week here regardless of what area.
Economists spotted this downturn coming over 4 years ago, some of us took precautions and most did nothing.
Although tbh it's the system as a whole that is flawed and not so much the individual, but that is a different convo altogether.
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Dong Ninja
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Posted - 2009.05.03 08:13:00 -
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Isn't really relevant to the OPs situation, but for future reference, if you cannot save 10% of your earnings for yourself to put away/invest, you are living above your means.
Originally by: Xen Gin Indeed, upgrading an MS OS is like taking a **** into a cake mixture, then complaining that it doesn't taste good when it's all done.
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sp3cial forc3s
0ne Man 0ne P3ni5
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:09:00 -
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Sell Crack
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Maxivo
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s Sell Crack
Already selling the greengo... lol
THANK YOU to all for your replies and well wishes.
About taking the new missus with me to norway... She owns her own lingerie store in edinburgh which is getting all these awards and stuff and buisness is booming. Im pretty sure shed just shoot me down. I wouldnt want her to leave all her friends and stuff either, were both v sociable people.
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jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:25:00 -
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does your missus run anne summers !
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Maxivo
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:27:00 -
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And to the guys on about wages barely covering house expense...
With one weeks wage I could cover my 1 bedroom flats expenses for a month. And im still paying the finance on my Focus ST. Im a bit of a party animal, and I do enjoy living it up on Edinburghs George street. So I never really had any savings, im only 23 and still in the "lets get wrecked!!!" mood.
I do have a little money away which should cover my flat for the next 2 - 3 months but that dosnt leave me with any food budget.. So yea ive pretty much fecked myself!
Norways looking so close atm... 
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Maxivo
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: jason hill does your missus run anne summers !
no she and her friend own Boudiche.. http://www.boudiche.com/
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gelric
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Posted - 2009.05.03 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: gelric on 03/05/2009 14:17:31 Id say going with the oil rig thing, very good money, or you could try opening a new store? maybe in norway?or where you are? if you have the money for it...
sorry to hear about your job loss aswell
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Darkerz Reloaded
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.03 15:40:00 -
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order Mary Jane from europe where the prices are cheaper and sell it to the consumers in local'e
err....not that i know this...
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Kadavreski
Caldari State Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.03 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulous Edited by: Nebulous on 03/05/2009 07:18:08
Originally by: EliteSlave
Grand a week, would barely pay my housing expenses....
2900$ - Mortgage 300$ - Insurance 500 - Water / Gas 200 - Electricity 100 - Internet / Cable
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1) I was not quoting yourself. 2) If you read the OP you will see he is referring to pounds (UK Currency), it is quite easy to live on ú500 a week here regardless of what area.
qft, I barely make that a month 
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.03 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulous
Economists spotted this downturn coming over 4 years ago, some of us took precautions and most did nothing.
I find it really helpful telling people I told you so, you should have done better. That's why 4 years ago I started posting here on Eve-o.  ~~~~ There is no parody in this thread. Honest. |

Gabrialle
Amarr Sanctuary Logistical Industries Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.03 22:05:00 -
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Well if its not to late, try asking your employer if they are willing to keep you on if you take a paycut, then negotiate it, I'd say accept anything upto 10% for a year, maybe 25% if your desperate. Try to cut back on the party animal lifestyle (you really should know betterby now!). If you cant keep your old job try getting a job as a barman at one of the places you frequent, short term only ofc.
Do you have an FLT license? if not get one, the jobcentre will pay and it'll make you far more flexible in your employers eyes, try for a hi-reach and even a telehandler licence if you can, that last is easy work and well paid but the license is expensive.
The last time I was unemployed (some time ago) I had to make ends meet by doing odd jobs, technically illegal if you do it for cash, but not for food or coupons, I know it seems like begging but whatever works.
You say your SO has a lingerie store, does she make her own? does she contract out repair work or employee her own? if the yes and the latter...
Beyond that I dont know much about the employment market and options in Scotland since I'm in Wales...
Goodluck!
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.03 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Elora Danzik The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting a different result.
No it isn't. The definition of insanity is setting your hair on fire because you think it will keep out the bees. ________________________________________________
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Ombey
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.04 06:02:00 -
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Sorry to hear about your troubles. Although nowhere near the severity of your situation, I am going through a second bout of the company I work for outsourcing a lot of it's staff. Last time I got redundancy but found another job easily (2006), but this time no-one really knows what's happening for another 30 days.
Potentially having to leave behind a gf and dog (especially GSD, as I have a 3yr old) must make it all that much harder for you to decide. Good luck with whatever path you chooose
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