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BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:00:00 -
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I enjoy watching anime but it seems like a lot of anime has homosexual undertones to it. Not that I have a problem with homosexuality I just find that like a lot of anime has this subtext in it. Am I just crazy?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 02/05/2009 08:02:36 Different culture etc.
In b4 irrational hatred p.s. anything in particular you're referring to? __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri Edited by: Terianna Eri on 02/05/2009 08:02:36 Different culture etc.
In b4 irrational hatred p.s. anything in particular you're referring to?
Things like Haruhi Suzumiya and Gankutsuou etc.
Touched by his noodly appendage. Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster |

Grimpak
Gallente Clubs and Diamonds
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Terianna Eri Edited by: Terianna Eri on 02/05/2009 08:02:36 Different culture etc.
In b4 irrational hatred p.s. anything in particular you're referring to?
Things like Haruhi Suzumiya and Gankutsuou etc.
you think those ones are bad, then don't even touch on X tv, or anything CLAMP-related
while I must admit that their more "mature" titles are, story-wise, very good, the relationships border (or can even be considered) illegal sometimes, or at least socially reprehensible.
something like f-f or m-m relationships or even f-f-m or whatever weird combos you can slap there, or teacher-student relationships or diferent ages and so.
but that's rarely seen besides CLAMP stuff tbh.
in many series, there is a sense of fraternal "love" in the sense that, cultural-wise, best friends can be considered brothers.
point in case, Code Geass. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Terianna Eri Edited by: Terianna Eri on 02/05/2009 08:02:36 Different culture etc.
In b4 irrational hatred p.s. anything in particular you're referring to?
Things like Haruhi Suzumiya and Gankutsuou etc.
you think those ones are bad, then don't even touch on X tv, or anything CLAMP-related
while I must admit that their more "mature" titles are, story-wise, very good, the relationships border (or can even be considered) illegal sometimes, or at least socially reprehensible.
something like f-f or m-m relationships or even f-f-m or whatever weird combos you can slap there, or teacher-student relationships or diferent ages and so.
but that's rarely seen besides CLAMP stuff tbh.
in many series, there is a sense of fraternal "love" in the sense that, cultural-wise, best friends can be considered brothers.
point in case, Code Geass.
Yeah but those brothers tried to kill each other.
Touched by his noodly appendage. Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster |

Grimpak
Gallente Clubs and Diamonds
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Terianna Eri Edited by: Terianna Eri on 02/05/2009 08:02:36 Different culture etc.
In b4 irrational hatred p.s. anything in particular you're referring to?
Things like Haruhi Suzumiya and Gankutsuou etc.
you think those ones are bad, then don't even touch on X tv, or anything CLAMP-related
while I must admit that their more "mature" titles are, story-wise, very good, the relationships border (or can even be considered) illegal sometimes, or at least socially reprehensible.
something like f-f or m-m relationships or even f-f-m or whatever weird combos you can slap there, or teacher-student relationships or diferent ages and so.
but that's rarely seen besides CLAMP stuff tbh.
in many series, there is a sense of fraternal "love" in the sense that, cultural-wise, best friends can be considered brothers.
point in case, Code Geass.
Yeah but those brothers tried to kill each other.
brotherly love, the hard kind ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Nuala Reece
Caldari Starlancers SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2009.05.02 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow I enjoy watching anime but it seems like a lot of anime has homosexual undertones to it. Not that I have a problem with homosexuality I just find that like a lot of anime has this subtext in it. Am I just crazy?
It's a bit a a broad generalization - lots of anime deals with relationships and some of those may be or imply same sex attraction; lots of anime doesn't have this at all though. You could ask the same question about Hollywood movies - have you seen Top Gun, for instance?
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.05.02 09:57:00 -
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What's CLAMP? I can't work tentacles into that acronym, but I have a feeling it belongs there.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Fi Vantage
Minmatar New Ligion
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Posted - 2009.05.02 10:15:00 -
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A studio/production team, I think. Not an acronym.
Strangely enough, the only gay content in anime I've ever seen was satiring gay content in anime/manga.
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kor anon
Amarr Seerauber-Vereinigung
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Posted - 2009.05.02 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
brotherly love, the hard kind
Oh the connotations, must resist...
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.05.02 11:07:00 -
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CLAMP, isa group of artists, all female that create mangas and animes together... they created Card Captor Sakura, X, XXXHolic and some other relatively well-known shows. just like guys sometimes have a penchant for girl-on-girl, girls sometimes also have a fascination with guy-on-guy... and just like guys, they think it's more romantic than it probably is ;)
you don't see girls swooning over the blue oyster bar from police academy, for instance.
so yeah... i suppose it's possible that they're trying to attract more girls to watch anime by adding pretty gay guys... and attract guys by adding pretty gay girls. *shrugs*
.. hmm.. wonder if 'gay' will be filtered...
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Mercurye
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.02 11:16:00 -
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I dont enjoy watching tv too much because all tv-series have heterosexual/heteronormative relationships and people in them
I must be crazy!  --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |

Onus Mian
Amarr Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.02 12:11:00 -
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You clearly don't remember the days of superman and heman. ----
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2009.05.02 12:47:00 -
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Alot of "macho" behavior is just based on homophobia.
You'll find in some cultures, you can put your arm around another guy without anybody thinking it's gay.
In Western culture being gay is a choice.
In some cultures being gay is...not really taboo, but more of a pointless choice as it doesn't produce children, and in that culture producing children is considered the only reason for living, so even if you have feelings for someone of the same sex, it's really considered pointless to engage in anything with that person.
Love is really a western concept.
Half my family is Asiatic, if I tell them I "fell in love" with someone they really don't understand, they're like "love wtf" they think I should get married because "it's time to have kids."
The concept that I might actually enjoy being around a person for its own sake is like saying "I rubbed applesauce all over myself and my thighs felt squishy." They just don't understand it.
For that reason being gay is not considered "taboo" but more of a "why the hell would you do that?" kind of thing.
Thats why you can put your arm around another guy and nobody thinks it's gay, because gay is considered pointless and everybody is assumed to be rational.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.05.02 13:45:00 -
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I've also heard that gay was/is "trendy." In before Ralara. |

Mercurye
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.02 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Lafail I've also heard that gay was/is "trendy."
Bisexual women were/are trendy ..but being gay isnt ^^
I do know that , especially on the internet with all the masculine nerds, bashing gays and saying "Thats so ****ing G.a.y!!" really makes you a cool guy, loved and so special ^^
--~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.02 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow [...]seems like a lot of anime has homosexual undertones to it. Not that I have a problem with homosexuality[...]
Sounds like you do. I don't hear you complaining about excess boobage in all the anime...
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |

Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.05.02 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow I enjoy watching anime but it seems like a lot of anime has homosexual undertones to it. Not that I have a problem with homosexuality I just find that like a lot of anime has this subtext in it. Am I just crazy?
The Japanese view of sexual relationships are very diffrent then western culture and it reflects in their entertainment. If you have the means take a Japanese history course or do some research recomended by a professor. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.02 18:10:00 -
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goosh goosh? 
Pomp FTW!!! |

Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.05.02 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak you think those ones are bad, then don't even touch on X tv...
I actually really enjoyed X and I don't remember it being that gay, but then it's been a long ass time since I watched it so my memory's pretty fuzzy.
(Man they had the coolest swords in that though) __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.02 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker goosh goosh? 
NO ____________________
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Grimpak
Gallente Clubs and Diamonds
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Posted - 2009.05.02 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker goosh goosh? 
NO
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Grimpak you think those ones are bad, then don't even touch on X tv...
I actually really enjoyed X and I don't remember it being that gay, but then it's been a long ass time since I watched it so my memory's pretty fuzzy.
(Man they had the coolest swords in that though)
homosexual might be a too strong word, but there is something between the protagonist and the two siblings, probably brotherly love between both Kamui and Fuma(? think it's his name), and Kotori, Fuma's sister.
one can say that there might be a love triangle there, and it's not both male characters for the same female .
but then again, it's CLAMP, so we're used to it already
btw, CLAMP ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.02 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Intense Thinker goosh goosh? 
NO
I CONCUR. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.05.02 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Intense Thinker goosh goosh? 
NO
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Grimpak you think those ones are bad, then don't even touch on X tv...
I actually really enjoyed X and I don't remember it being that gay, but then it's been a long ass time since I watched it so my memory's pretty fuzzy.
(Man they had the coolest swords in that though)
homosexual might be a too strong word, but there is something between the protagonist and the two siblings, probably brotherly love between both Kamui and Fuma(? think it's his name), and Kotori, Fuma's sister.
one can say that there might be a love triangle there, and it's not both male characters for the same female .
but then again, it's CLAMP, so we're used to it already
btw, CLAMP
Id say their relationship was definitely sibling + adopted sibling. At least in the TV show, Kamui saved Kotori when they were younger after both had climbed into a tree. I didnt care for the ending of that anime though, felt like the creators realized they wrote themselves into a corner and took the crap way out. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Grimpak
Gallente Clubs and Diamonds
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Posted - 2009.05.02 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei Id say their relationship was definitely sibling + adopted sibling. At least in the TV show, Kamui saved Kotori when they were younger after both had climbed into a tree. I didnt care for the ending of that anime though, felt like the creators realized they wrote themselves into a corner and took the crap way out.
well, both the movie and the series had a diferent ending.
in one, Fuma dies, plus everyone else except Kamui, and in the other Kamui dies, plus everyone, except Kamui.
it is also interesting to see that there is some romantic interest from this soldier guy that belongs to the Dragons of Earth and a schoolgirl that belongs to the Dragons of Heaven.
somewhat of a 24-year guy and a 16-year girl falling in love (or was she younger and/or him older?) ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.05.02 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker goosh goosh? 
NO
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.05.03 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei I didnt care for the ending of that anime though, felt like the creators realized they wrote themselves into a corner and took the crap way out.
Yeah, I remember being very underwhelmed by the ending. Seemed like such a cop-out. My girlfriend liked it though, so I guess I'm missing something. __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Gin G
Halls Of Valhalla
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Posted - 2009.05.03 01:22:00 -
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you should look much into it anime is crap anyway its prolly just your brain longing for something more like a good comady
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.03 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nuala Reece
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow I enjoy watching anime but it seems like a lot of anime has homosexual undertones to it. Not that I have a problem with homosexuality I just find that like a lot of anime has this subtext in it. Am I just crazy?
It's a bit a a broad generalization - lots of anime deals with relationships and some of those may be or imply same sex attraction; lots of anime doesn't have this at all though. You could ask the same question about Hollywood movies - have you seen Top Gun, for instance?
How dare you suggest Top Gun is homosexual!
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.03 02:35:00 -
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That volleyball scene is totally manly.
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