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Delc	Posted - 2004.09.01 22:05:00 - [1] Got the same problem, just diffrent system specs. P4 2.6, 1Gb Dual DDR400 Ram, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (128mb), Creative Audigy 2, Win XP Pro with SP2. 1 account, no problem. 2 accounts, system reboots. Checked this thread and think that the DEP (Data Execution Protection) is to blame. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.01 22:05:00 - [2] Got the same problem, just diffrent system specs. P4 2.6, 1Gb Dual DDR400 Ram, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (128mb), Creative Audigy 2, Win XP Pro with SP2. 1 account, no problem. 2 accounts, system reboots. Checked this thread and think that the DEP (Data Execution Protection) is to blame. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.01 22:40:00 - [3] Originally by: XD Trotter Thx for the reply Delc, but I've set XP to disregard Eve as far as DEP goes. Ok, then I don't need to test that . To bad it didn't solve the problem. Originally by: XD Trotter A quick scout on Google suggests that this may have something to do with Quote: Attempt to free a memory pool that was already freed Dunno if this isan Eve issue (ie dodgy coding becoming unmasked with SP2) or an SP 2 issue. Could also be an issue with device drivers and SP2, however, this ONLY occurs on running 2 clients. Think it's a EVE related problem due to the fact that it only occurs when running 2 clients under these conditions. The solution - until resolved - is maybe to rollback to SP1. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.01 22:40:00 - [4] Originally by: XD Trotter Thx for the reply Delc, but I've set XP to disregard Eve as far as DEP goes. Ok, then I don't need to test that . To bad it didn't solve the problem. Originally by: XD Trotter A quick scout on Google suggests that this may have something to do with Quote: Attempt to free a memory pool that was already freed Dunno if this isan Eve issue (ie dodgy coding becoming unmasked with SP2) or an SP 2 issue. Could also be an issue with device drivers and SP2, however, this ONLY occurs on running 2 clients. Think it's a EVE related problem due to the fact that it only occurs when running 2 clients under these conditions. The solution - until resolved - is maybe to rollback to SP1. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.02 14:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Qwakrz -edit- I notice the common feature is a Creative soundcard. Try turning your sound acceleration right down in DxDiag, or even turning the sound off. Tried that with same response, computer just rebooted itself. Needless to say, got the latest drivers... Anyway, I have asked the support to look at my problem. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.02 14:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Qwakrz -edit- I notice the common feature is a Creative soundcard. Try turning your sound acceleration right down in DxDiag, or even turning the sound off. Tried that with same response, computer just rebooted itself. Needless to say, got the latest drivers... Anyway, I have asked the support to look at my problem. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.04 09:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Delc on 04/09/2004 11:03:10 Originally by: XD Trotter I would be greatly interested to know if this is the BSOD error you are getting as well, as will help me try to decide if it is indeed SP2 and EVE, or my PC. This is what my Event Log is saying when trying to run two accounts: The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x02020001, 0x857b3458). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP. Here is the most useful data from the memory.dmp file: MajorVersion 0000000f MinorVersion 00000a28 MachineImageType 0000014c NumberProcessors 00000002 BugCheckCode 000000c2 BugCheckParameter1 00000007 BugCheckParameter2 00000cd4 BugCheckParameter3 02020001 BugCheckParameter4 857b3458 Link to what Windows Support has to say. Can it be a problem with the drivers related to the network card? N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.04 09:28:00 - [8] Edited by: Delc on 04/09/2004 11:03:10 Originally by: XD Trotter I would be greatly interested to know if this is the BSOD error you are getting as well, as will help me try to decide if it is indeed SP2 and EVE, or my PC. This is what my Event Log is saying when trying to run two accounts: The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x02020001, 0x857b3458). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP. Here is the most useful data from the memory.dmp file: MajorVersion 0000000f MinorVersion 00000a28 MachineImageType 0000014c NumberProcessors 00000002 BugCheckCode 000000c2 BugCheckParameter1 00000007 BugCheckParameter2 00000cd4 BugCheckParameter3 02020001 BugCheckParameter4 857b3458 Link to what Windows Support has to say. Can it be a problem with the drivers related to the network card? N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.04 23:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Rolschau If Windows NT (XP) reboots it might be your settings... try this: Control panel -> System -> Advanced -> Start and recovery: settings -> remove all check marks (especially auto-reboot on error) and set "none" in the option dropbox... Not a solution for the stated problem and has been discussed as an action in order to see what kind of BSOD it is. But thanks! Have been checking various resources all day and it seems that the short term solution is to uninstall SP2 and go back to SP1. I have noticed that only ( - maybe - ) ATI card is mentioned with this kind of problem. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.04 23:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Rolschau If Windows NT (XP) reboots it might be your settings... try this: Control panel -> System -> Advanced -> Start and recovery: settings -> remove all check marks (especially auto-reboot on error) and set "none" in the option dropbox... Not a solution for the stated problem and has been discussed as an action in order to see what kind of BSOD it is. But thanks! Have been checking various resources all day and it seems that the short term solution is to uninstall SP2 and go back to SP1. I have noticed that only ( - maybe - ) ATI card is mentioned with this kind of problem. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.05 09:33:00 - [11] Edited by: Delc on 05/09/2004 10:34:48 Originally by: Aronis Contar If EVE would do any of those things, you would just get a "this program has performed an illegal operation and needs to be closed blablabla" message box. It has to be a driver or a part of windows that does something nasty so that you get a bluescreen. If you disable your "Automatic Reboot", does it maybe list the program that caused the bugcheck somewhere on the blue screen? Somewhere in the middle, most likely some .sys or .dll? Ciao, Aronis! Yea I have debugged my memory.dmp file with the debugging tools Mircrosoft provides. And following this simple guide you can understand the tool. My findings is that the trinity.dll tries and free upp memory as the same time as ctoss2k.sys thus making the system unstable and reboot. What is trinity.dll? Check your eve/bin-catalog. What is ctoss2k.sys? It's a driver used by the soundcard. In this case a SB Audigy 2. Question still remains why this occurs in Windows XP Service Pack 2. I will try and get hold of whql drivers for my soundcard and test that out. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.05 09:33:00 - [12] Edited by: Delc on 05/09/2004 10:34:48 Originally by: Aronis Contar If EVE would do any of those things, you would just get a "this program has performed an illegal operation and needs to be closed blablabla" message box. It has to be a driver or a part of windows that does something nasty so that you get a bluescreen. If you disable your "Automatic Reboot", does it maybe list the program that caused the bugcheck somewhere on the blue screen? Somewhere in the middle, most likely some .sys or .dll? Ciao, Aronis! Yea I have debugged my memory.dmp file with the debugging tools Mircrosoft provides. And following this simple guide you can understand the tool. My findings is that the trinity.dll tries and free upp memory as the same time as ctoss2k.sys thus making the system unstable and reboot. What is trinity.dll? Check your eve/bin-catalog. What is ctoss2k.sys? It's a driver used by the soundcard. In this case a SB Audigy 2. Question still remains why this occurs in Windows XP Service Pack 2. I will try and get hold of whql drivers for my soundcard and test that out. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.05 21:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Aronis Contar PS: I have a normal SB Audigy, and I'm using WHQL certified drivers version 5.12.1.383 from the 4.11.2003. I can run three clients at once without problems, in SP 2. Yea I am running them as well now . Hopefully they will do the trick. Thinking of getting myself a TerraTec-card if it doesn't, Creative has been to passive with their drivers to long now. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.05 21:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Aronis Contar PS: I have a normal SB Audigy, and I'm using WHQL certified drivers version 5.12.1.383 from the 4.11.2003. I can run three clients at once without problems, in SP 2. Yea I am running them as well now . Hopefully they will do the trick. Thinking of getting myself a TerraTec-card if it doesn't, Creative has been to passive with their drivers to long now. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.07 10:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Aronis Contar PS: I have a normal SB Audigy, and I'm using WHQL certified drivers version 5.12.1.383 from the 4.11.2003. I can run three clients at once without problems, in SP 2. Seems to have done the trick, my system has not rebooted once since I installed these drivers. Seems that the latest driver-patch does something to SP2/DirectX that makes the system unstable. But that is not our problem, it's Creative's . N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.07 10:13:00 - [16] Originally by: Aronis Contar PS: I have a normal SB Audigy, and I'm using WHQL certified drivers version 5.12.1.383 from the 4.11.2003. I can run three clients at once without problems, in SP 2. Seems to have done the trick, my system has not rebooted once since I installed these drivers. Seems that the latest driver-patch does something to SP2/DirectX that makes the system unstable. But that is not our problem, it's Creative's . N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 07:29:00 - [17] Originally by: XD Trotter Delc, sorry, but I've been away for a week. Now, I've run the debug tools (or tried to) as well. I certainly got a pointer to the creative drivers BUT I would dearly love to find out about the Trinity.dll file being related, so can you walk me thru WHICH of the debug tools you used (your link to the 'guide' didn't work), and how? I seem to be falling over with installing 'symbols' so I get varying levels of info. WB XD Trotter , Seems that the E-O forums did something with the link I put up to the guide. The guide is called 'Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 265879: How to Debug "Stop 0xC2" or "Stop 0x000000C2" Error Messages'. I used the graphical version of the debugger with the symbolspack. There are lot of articles related to the debugger, but it takes a while to get everything sorted first. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 07:29:00 - [18] Originally by: XD Trotter Delc, sorry, but I've been away for a week. Now, I've run the debug tools (or tried to) as well. I certainly got a pointer to the creative drivers BUT I would dearly love to find out about the Trinity.dll file being related, so can you walk me thru WHICH of the debug tools you used (your link to the 'guide' didn't work), and how? I seem to be falling over with installing 'symbols' so I get varying levels of info. WB XD Trotter , Seems that the E-O forums did something with the link I put up to the guide. The guide is called 'Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 265879: How to Debug "Stop 0xC2" or "Stop 0x000000C2" Error Messages'. I used the graphical version of the debugger with the symbolspack. There are lot of articles related to the debugger, but it takes a while to get everything sorted first. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 16:03:00 - [19] Edited by: Delc on 13/09/2004 16:10:52 Originally by: XD Trotter BTW, Delc, which Audigy 2 driver are you using, and where did you get it from? And has it so far resolved your problem? I asked Creative tech support about obtaining an older device driver, but they were unable to accomodate. Did you do a "!analyze -v"? Got the following information when using the Windbg tool: Note: Using P4 with Hyperthreading enabled. Quote: Processor 1 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 0db2e448 to 0da9bc90 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: trinity!TriQuaternionRotationArc+18250 Processor 2 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 80552fc8 to 80537832 SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 3 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: ctoss2k+646b MODULE_NAME: ctoss2k IMAGE_NAME: ctoss2k.sys Some good news is that my tech. petition has been sent to a dev in order to look more closely on this. At the moment I am using the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 WHQL v3.83 (Windows 2000/XP)-driver. It seems to work well. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 16:03:00 - [20] Edited by: Delc on 13/09/2004 16:10:52 Originally by: XD Trotter BTW, Delc, which Audigy 2 driver are you using, and where did you get it from? And has it so far resolved your problem? I asked Creative tech support about obtaining an older device driver, but they were unable to accomodate. Did you do a "!analyze -v"? Got the following information when using the Windbg tool: Note: Using P4 with Hyperthreading enabled. Quote: Processor 1 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 0db2e448 to 0da9bc90 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: trinity!TriQuaternionRotationArc+18250 Processor 2 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 80552fc8 to 80537832 SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 3 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: ctoss2k+646b MODULE_NAME: ctoss2k IMAGE_NAME: ctoss2k.sys Some good news is that my tech. petition has been sent to a dev in order to look more closely on this. At the moment I am using the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 WHQL v3.83 (Windows 2000/XP)-driver. It seems to work well. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 16:03:00 - [21] Edited by: Delc on 13/09/2004 16:10:52 Originally by: XD Trotter BTW, Delc, which Audigy 2 driver are you using, and where did you get it from? And has it so far resolved your problem? I asked Creative tech support about obtaining an older device driver, but they were unable to accomodate. Did you do a "!analyze -v"? Got the following information when using the Windbg tool: Note: Using P4 with Hyperthreading enabled. Quote: Processor 1 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 0db2e448 to 0da9bc90 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: trinity!TriQuaternionRotationArc+18250 Processor 2 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 80552fc8 to 80537832 SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 3 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: ctoss2k+646b MODULE_NAME: ctoss2k IMAGE_NAME: ctoss2k.sys Some good news is that my tech. petition has been sent to a dev in order to look more closely on this. At the moment I am using the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 WHQL v3.83 (Windows 2000/XP)-driver. It seems to work well. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc DarkStar 1	Posted - 2004.09.13 16:03:00 - [22] Edited by: Delc on 13/09/2004 16:10:52 Originally by: XD Trotter BTW, Delc, which Audigy 2 driver are you using, and where did you get it from? And has it so far resolved your problem? I asked Creative tech support about obtaining an older device driver, but they were unable to accomodate. Did you do a "!analyze -v"? Got the following information when using the Windbg tool: Note: Using P4 with Hyperthreading enabled. Quote: Processor 1 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 0db2e448 to 0da9bc90 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: trinity!TriQuaternionRotationArc+18250 Processor 2 POOL_ADDRESS: 85802f08 Nonpaged pool FREED_POOL_TAG: Wdm BUGCHECK_STR: 0xc2_7_Wdm DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 80552fc8 to 80537832 SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 3 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner SYMBOL_NAME: ctoss2k+646b MODULE_NAME: ctoss2k IMAGE_NAME: ctoss2k.sys Some good news is that my tech. petition has been sent to a dev in order to look more closely on this. At the moment I am using the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 WHQL v3.83 (Windows 2000/XP)-driver. It seems to work well. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 20:57:00 - [23] Originally by: XD Trotter Delc, why I try I get this Quote: kd> !analyse - v No export analyse found Perhaps I'm using it wrong. Any advice? Andy You have to save the work because the graphical debugg tool cleans the memory.dmp when using the tool . N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 20:57:00 - [24] Originally by: XD Trotter Delc, why I try I get this Quote: kd> !analyse - v No export analyse found Perhaps I'm using it wrong. Any advice? Andy You have to save the work because the graphical debugg tool cleans the memory.dmp when using the tool . N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 20:57:00 - [25] Originally by: XD Trotter Delc, why I try I get this Quote: kd> !analyse - v No export analyse found Perhaps I'm using it wrong. Any advice? Andy You have to save the work because the graphical debugg tool cleans the memory.dmp when using the tool . N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc DarkStar 1	Posted - 2004.09.13 20:57:00 - [26] Originally by: XD Trotter Delc, why I try I get this Quote: kd> !analyse - v No export analyse found Perhaps I'm using it wrong. Any advice? Andy You have to save the work because the graphical debugg tool cleans the memory.dmp when using the tool . N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 21:26:00 - [27] XD Trotter, can you open EAX Console with your current setup? N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 21:26:00 - [28] XD Trotter, can you open EAX Console with your current setup? N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.13 21:26:00 - [29] XD Trotter, can you open EAX Console with your current setup? N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc DarkStar 1	Posted - 2004.09.13 21:26:00 - [30] XD Trotter, can you open EAX Console with your current setup? N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.14 10:20:00 - [31] Just thinking if it was the EAX-sound effects. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.14 10:20:00 - [32] Just thinking if it was the EAX-sound effects. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc	Posted - 2004.09.14 10:20:00 - [33] Just thinking if it was the EAX-sound effects. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon
Delc DarkStar 1	Posted - 2004.09.14 10:20:00 - [34] Just thinking if it was the EAX-sound effects. N.A.G.A Corp \| NAGAmazon

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