| Pages: 1 [2] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Mara Rinn
   |
Posted - 2009.05.05 03:49:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Mara Rinn on 05/05/2009 03:51:10
Let me see... if I post a Raven on contract as a "Raven Navy Issue" or 280M ISK, and it sells in 15 seconds flat, don't you think I'd keep doing that until I stopped moving overpriced product off my shelves?
The buyer is clearly a fool and doesn't deserve the money they have!
Now if I was doing a roaring trade in rebadged Ravens, don't you think I'd try something else? Flog it off as a Golem perhaps, or look at selling Small Shield Booster I as a Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster.
Does that make me an ISK launderer, or merely a dodgey second hand spaceship salesman?
 Originally by: EpicFailTroll
remove alts and allow one IP per account, one account per IP, at a time. Alts are an abomination in such a game.
I agree with the sentiment, but it's offtopic in a discussion about "ISK laundering through dodgey contracts."
|
arbiter reborn
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 05:03:00 -
[32]
Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
I personally believe that, while there ARE stupid people in this game, stupid people don't usually have insane amounts of isk. Stupidity usually excludes the acquiring of wealth, unless your famous or inherit it (or buy it, as in a game).
So I'm starting to believe that the jita bots are little more than ways to cover up the transfer of funds between characters and accounts. IM some isk seller, he tells you to make a character and spam in Jita, he'll buy your 1mil Amarr Hardener for 1 bil.
This
if this is indeed how its done, and im sure its pretty common that it is, then way to **** the system, a scam scam, awesome haha
|
Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 05:32:00 -
[33]
Originally by: EpicFailTroll
EFT says: remove alts and allow one IP per account, one account per IP, at a time. Alts are an abomination in such a game.
Won't work. In fact, can't work.
———
“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 07:55:00 -
[34]
This would be p. clever, however it requires the buyer of isk to go through some contracting procedures that he probably would think is too much effort.
Besides, the same isk sellers would be using the same characters and get caught that way. IE the same person would be getting "scammed" 20+ times. However, if you check contracts history, that is not what is happening. Different people are getting scammed.
Or hell, maybe the isk sellers and the north koreans are working together to control our minds by spamming jita local.
Originally by: CCP Whisper
So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
|
Shintai
Gallente
Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 11:27:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Shintai on 05/05/2009 11:27:55
Originally by: Vaal Erit
This would be p. clever, however it requires the buyer of isk to go through some contracting procedures that he probably would think is too much effort.
Besides, the same isk sellers would be using the same characters and get caught that way. IE the same person would be getting "scammed" 20+ times. However, if you check contracts history, that is not what is happening. Different people are getting scammed.
Or hell, maybe the isk sellers and the north koreans are working together to control our minds by spamming jita local.
If you check their history. Scammers get scammed and same things bought forth and back. Its laundry for sure. And most likely RMT related.
And all the high volume for billions of isks each way for single people is suppious at best.
--------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 11:45:00 -
[36]
Hmm, I never thought of that but I can certainly see that happening. Another option for isk laundering would be market buy/sell orders set at absurd prices that no one would buy or even see if using market normally. Example would be placing a shuttle for sale in jita for 10B isk. If someone actually bought that, I guarantee they were paid real world money to do so.
|
Frenzei
Gallente
Fortuna inc.
Leather Rose Syndicate
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 12:30:00 -
[37]
Originally by: King Rothgar
Hmm, I never thought of that but I can certainly see that happening. Another option for isk laundering would be market buy/sell orders set at absurd prices that no one would buy or even see if using market normally. Example would be placing a shuttle for sale in jita for 10B isk. If someone actually bought that, I guarantee they were paid real world money to do so.
Expecting that there is shuttle for sale in that station for less, THAT person will get the money. That's the way a brokered market works.
Lone Wolf |
Sir Elliot
|
Posted - 2009.05.05 14:56:00 -
[38]
I think the most frustrating part about this is CCP's absolute refusal to enforcing their own EULA against obvious bot activity.
C/D?
|
A Pacifist
Republic University
|
Posted - 2009.05.06 12:30:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Mara Rinn
Edited by: Mara Rinn on 05/05/2009 03:51:10
Let me see... if I post a Raven on contract as a "Raven Navy Issue" or 280M ISK, and it sells in 15 seconds flat, don't you think I'd keep doing that until I stopped moving overpriced product off my shelves?
The buyer is clearly a fool and doesn't deserve the money they have!
Now if I was doing a roaring trade in rebadged Ravens, don't you think I'd try something else? Flog it off as a Golem perhaps, or look at selling Small Shield Booster I as a Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster.
Does that make me an ISK launderer, or merely a dodgey second hand spaceship salesman?
Originally by: EpicFailTroll
remove alts and allow one IP per account, one account per IP, at a time. Alts are an abomination in such a game.
I agree with the sentiment, but it's offtopic in a discussion about "ISK laundering through dodgey contracts."
A good point. I've spent a couple hours looking through contract histories of scammers, and I think what people have to look at instead is the contract histories of people that are getting scammed. I've found a couple people that will have several months of active contract histories, only to lose several billion in a period of minutes, in some cases to multiple contracts from the same scammer. It leads me to believe that at least some "scammers" are either isk seller distribution accounts, or the alts of people that are buying isk. |
Jonathan Calvert
Minmatar
Empire Mining and Trade
|
Posted - 2009.05.06 14:43:00 -
[40]
Should be easy enough to test, just go buy some isk (with a secure CC) and then see what happens. I also find it interesting Chribba's eve search site is advertising the sale of isk. CCP should get google ads to remove the sale of their property.
|
Andrest Disch
Amarr
Letiferi Praedones
|
Posted - 2009.05.06 15:26:00 -
[41]
Originally by: EpicFailTroll
EFT says: remove alts and allow one IP per account, one account per IP, at a time. Alts are an abomination in such a game.
Yes, i'm sure all those people that find actively mining ice fun will love you for this.
-silence-
oh, |
Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Can't Decide
Balance of Judgment
|
Posted - 2009.05.06 15:36:00 -
[42]
actually they use the eve-bank as a laundry service. put money in, get a code, take money out.
and as far as CCP logs go, its not a direct transfer...so its very hard to trace.
|
Vidi Angelus
Caldari
Crystal Dynamics
Libertas Fidelitas
|
Posted - 2009.05.06 15:37:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: EpicFailTroll
EFT says: remove alts and allow one IP per account, one account per IP, at a time. Alts are an abomination in such a game.
Won't work. In fact, can't work.
Exactly, Proxies make the argument pure fail.
|
Glamaz Cruciatia
|
Posted - 2009.05.09 14:10:00 -
[44]
spam again it seems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
|
Chucky
HEAVEN'S DEATH DEALER'S
V.I.R.A.L.
|
Posted - 2009.05.09 17:02:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Vidi Angelus
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: EpicFailTroll
EFT says: remove alts and allow one IP per account, one account per IP, at a time. Alts are an abomination in such a game.
Won't work. In fact, can't work.
Exactly, Proxies make the argument pure fail.
Train Troll detection to lvl 1, or read the posters name slowly
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Concorduck
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.05.09 17:11:00 -
[46]
CCP knows
Stop making tinfoil hats
-----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
|
Weight What
|
Posted - 2009.05.09 19:41:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Concorduck
CCP knows
Stop making tinfoil hats
Originally by: Magic Dragonrider Tao Ball
Mandarins are slow to act. A butterfly dances through a field of poppies. Seize the potentiality.
-----------------------------------------------
Annonymous, trading as "Weight What". |
Draeca
Tharri and Co.
|
Posted - 2009.05.09 20:42:00 -
[48]
I find the amounts of tinfoilhattery in this thread pleasing.
Carry on.
|
Speaker Dead
|
Posted - 2009.05.09 21:28:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Speaker Dead on 09/05/2009 21:28:58
Actually your not taking the scam far enough. If they were really clever, the ISK Sellers would use a number of accounts, including hacked ones.
And wouldn't they spread the word in game that this works? 99% of the hub spam now is all based on the non-rounded contract scam, targeting which spammer's are actually isk buyers, and which are legit scams could become a daunting task if you get enough people on for the ride....
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 [2] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |