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Argus Greymoore Gallente Tides of Silence	Posted - 2009.05.04 14:37:00 - [1] Though I don't run missions that often, in my nearly three years in EvE, when I do, it's always been for the Gallante. I thought it might be nice to try out missions from the opposing factions, but as you'd expect, the Caldari and Amarr don't care for me much. I have Diplomacy trained to 3, but even if I trained it to 5, I don't believe I could get a low quality L1 agent to talk to me. I've heard conflicting accounts of whether running missions for the Sisters of EvE will raise your standings for all factions. I ran several courier and one kill mission yesterday for the SoE, but didn't see any gain in standings for either Caldari or Amarr. So the question is, does running missions for the Sisters give standing increases for all factions? Or is it only certain factions? Or does it need to be a storyline mission?
Myyona Minmatar Ataraxia Pharmacies	Posted - 2009.05.04 14:51:00 - [2] No, they do not give standing increases to all factions. Even when you do storyline missions. --- Nobody can do everything, but everybody can do nothing
Nambu Caldari Two Dogs Operations	Posted - 2009.05.04 15:41:00 - [3] Originally by: Argus Greymoore Though I don't run missions that often, in my nearly three years in EvE, when I do, it's always been for the Gallante. I thought it might be nice to try out missions from the opposing factions, but as you'd expect, the Caldari and Amarr don't care for me much. I have Diplomacy trained to 3, but even if I trained it to 5, I don't believe I could get a low quality L1 agent to talk to me. I've heard conflicting accounts of whether running missions for the Sisters of EvE will raise your standings for all factions. I ran several courier and one kill mission yesterday for the SoE, but didn't see any gain in standings for either Caldari or Amarr. So the question is, does running missions for the Sisters give standing increases for all factions? Or is it only certain factions? Or does it need to be a storyline mission? Technically SoE will give miniscule (they have no effect) negative standings to Caldari/Amarr upon the storylines only. --- The stage is set Someone's going to do something someone else will regret... The fuse will have to run out sometime Something here will eventually have to explode
Argus Greymoore Gallente Tides of Silence	Posted - 2009.05.04 15:48:00 - [4] Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll have to tag along with corpmates if I want to run Amarr or Caldari missions.
Nambu Caldari Two Dogs Operations	Posted - 2009.05.04 15:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Argus Greymoore Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll have to tag along with corpmates if I want to run Amarr or Caldari missions. If you are feeling antisocial, and their standings aren't completely ruined, you could try Interbus, Jove, Khanid, or Ammatar all of whom would boost your Ammar/Caldari standing (a bit) on each storyline. As soon as you get to -1 or less, you can let Connections take over by doing a single L1Q-20 mission. --- The stage is set Someone's going to do something someone else will regret... The fuse will have to run out sometime Something here will eventually have to explode
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.05.04 16:34:00 - [6] Maybe this is outdated but might still prove to be useful http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml
Zaisen Abarai	Posted - 2009.05.04 23:28:00 - [7] As suggested, you are not left out in the cold with Amarr/Caldari even without SoE. For instance: You have an unmodified -2.0 with the Khanid Kingdom. Thus you can still access the agents in Khanid Kingdom who in turn like both Amarr & Caldari State - So run some missions/storylines for either Royal Khanid Navy, Khanid Innovation, Khanid Transport or Khanid Works & your standings will be up in no time. Simultaneously training up Diplomacy from 3 to 5 takes little effort & will help your -5.27 Amarr Empire standing alot. No probleam really.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.05.05 02:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Maybe this is outdated but might still prove to be useful http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml It is outdated, though not by too much... Still, it's a better idea to just look at the standings in-game when trying to figure out faction standings relations. Like for Sisters of EVE, bring up their standings and go to the "Liked By" tab to see who you will gain standings with through their storylines (and how far they will go). But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Power Sauce Kenzzoku	Posted - 2009.05.05 02:59:00 - [9] Also the disliked by tab is useful for seeing who you'll be losing standings to.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.05 06:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Nambu Originally by: Argus Greymoore Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll have to tag along with corpmates if I want to run Amarr or Caldari missions. If you are feeling antisocial, and their standings aren't completely ruined, you could try Interbus, Jove, Khanid, or Ammatar all of whom would boost your Ammar/Caldari standing (a bit) on each storyline. As soon as you get to -1 or less, you can let Connections take over by doing a single L1Q-20 mission. 1) faction grains for storylines aren't shared, so tagging along another player will never rise your Amarr or Caldari faction standing. 2) Interbus has no storyline agents, so again you will not get faction standing with anyone. 3) Jove has no working agents at all. 4) Run missions for Kanid, Ammatar or Mordu. The storylines for those will rise your faction standing with Caldari and Amarr.
Not Well	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:45:00 - [11] Question of clarification. Faction standings are not share when you run a mission with a friend, but how about corporation standings? Can I run missions with a friend to get access to that NPC corpÆs missions and then run a lot of missions with them to get the storyline missions for their faction? And yes, Interbus is a scam, donÆt waste your time running for them.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.05.05 10:02:00 - [12] I boosted my refining / industrialist character's Chemal Tech standing by just sitting in fleet with my missioneer, so I'd say yes.
Myyona Minmatar Ataraxia Pharmacies	Posted - 2009.05.05 10:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Not Well Question of clarification. Faction standings are not share when you run a mission with a friend, but how about corporation standings? Can I run missions with a friend to get access to that NPC corpÆs missions and then run a lot of missions with them to get the storyline missions for their faction? And yes, Interbus is a scam, donÆt waste your time running for them. Corporation standings are shared (so are agent standings btw.). The problem is, that you need a minimum faction standing to run missions for any agent belonging to that faction no matter what other standings you have. Now of course I have forgotten what that minimum level is. --- Nobody can do everything, but everybody can do nothing
Makko Gray Gallente Nexus Aerospace Corporation	Posted - 2009.05.05 12:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Not Well Question of clarification. Faction standings are not share when you run a mission with a friend, but how about corporation standings? Can I run missions with a friend to get access to that NPC corpÆs missions and then run a lot of missions with them to get the storyline missions for their faction? No. You need a faction standing above -2 to be able to run missions with any corporation within that faction, regardless of what your standing is with the corporation itself.
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2009.05.05 15:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Not Well Question of clarification. Faction standings are not share when you run a mission with a friend, but how about corporation standings? Can I run missions with a friend to get access to that NPC corpÆs missions and then run a lot of missions with them to get the storyline missions for their faction? As far as I know: If your friend is the mission owner (who accepted the mission with the agent) the mission counter running against a storyline mission increases only for him, NOT FOR YOU. So you won't get a storyline mission offer as long as you are only the companion in the missions. But I'm not absolutely sure about that, someone with better knowledge should confirm it.
serenity Galltaki	Posted - 2009.05.05 16:15:00 - [16] So if you cannot get fraction standings by running missions as a companion and your fraction standing is below -2.0(so no agent will talk to you), is there any way to gain fraction standing
Argus Greymoore Gallente Tides of Silence	Posted - 2009.05.05 16:16:00 - [17] Thanks to everyone for the replies. Lots of good info here. Never dawned on me to check the faction's likes and dislikes for gains or losses when running missions for them. Seems obvious now, but that's a gem of a tip. I'll check into the Khanid for missions and train up the diplomacy. Thanks again everyone!
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2009.05.05 16:52:00 - [18] Originally by: serenity Galltaki So if you cannot get fraction standings by running missions as a companion and your fraction standing is below -2.0(so no agent will talk to you), is there any way to gain fraction standing My understanding is: 1) There is no way to gain faction standing by running missions only as a fleet companion. You can gain faction standing only by yourself. 2) But you can loose faction standing (towards the hosile faction) by shooting faction NPCs in a mission. Faction standing loss is divided equally between the fleet members. 3) If you want to improve standing with a faction you are below -2 (unmodified) with you can run storyline missions for another faction which is friendly with the first faction (as long as your standing with said faction is above -2). 4) The old trick to run storyline missions for a faction hostile to the faction you want to improve standing with and then fail them by intent is not working anymore. You won't get a standing gain. 5) If you are at -2 (unmodified) with a faction and also with all its friend factions you can trash your character and start from scratch or hope and wait until CCP changes game mechanics. (I'm not 100% sure about (4) and honestly not about the rest.)
Dodgy Past	Posted - 2009.05.05 17:15:00 - [19] Edited by: Dodgy Past on 05/05/2009 17:16:13 When grinding is it as simple as doing 16 level 1 missions, then one faction mission? Or is there a way to speed up the faction gains? /also don't accept missions that involve killing faction buildings if at all possible as they hammer your faction losses and ignore the 'kill a frigate first' trick.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.05.05 19:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Kolmogorow Originally by: serenity Galltaki So if you cannot get fraction standings by running missions as a companion and your fraction standing is below -2.0(so no agent will talk to you), is there any way to gain fraction standing My understanding is: 1) There is no way to gain faction standing by running missions only as a fleet companion. You can gain faction standing only by yourself. 2) But you can loose faction standing (towards the hosile faction) by shooting faction NPCs in a mission. Faction standing loss is divided equally between the fleet members. 3) If you want to improve standing with a faction you are below -2 (unmodified) with you can run storyline missions for another faction which is friendly with the first faction (as long as your standing with said faction is above -2). 4) The old trick to run storyline missions for a faction hostile to the faction you want to improve standing with and then fail them by intent is not working anymore. You won't get a standing gain. 5) If you are at -2 (unmodified) with a faction and also with all its friend factions you can trash your character and start from scratch or hope and wait until CCP changes game mechanics. (I'm not 100% sure about (4) and honestly not about the rest.) All correct except 5. Your effective standing is what matters... unmodified standings aren't important. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Reangorette Bianie	Posted - 2009.05.05 20:24:00 - [21] Just check out the SOE tab. Liked by Gallente 8, Minmitar 4 disliked by Amarr -1.00, Caldari -0.25. These will be your storline percentages. I've run SOE to gain with Gallente and Minmitar and those % are accurate. Only storlines will give faction increases. If you've trained diplo etc and you still can't get at least a lvl 1 agent I don't know how to fix that for Amarr or Caldari. The only thing I think of that might work is if you check your Mordus Legion standings. The only problem is they are in nul sec.
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2009.05.05 21:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: Kolmogorow Originally by: serenity Galltaki So if you cannot get fraction standings by running missions as a companion and your fraction standing is below -2.0(so no agent will talk to you), is there any way to gain fraction standing My understanding is: 1) There is no way to gain faction standing by running missions only as a fleet companion. You can gain faction standing only by yourself. 2) But you can loose faction standing (towards the hosile faction) by shooting faction NPCs in a mission. Faction standing loss is divided equally between the fleet members. 3) If you want to improve standing with a faction you are below -2 (unmodified) with you can run storyline missions for another faction which is friendly with the first faction (as long as your standing with said faction is above -2). 4) The old trick to run storyline missions for a faction hostile to the faction you want to improve standing with and then fail them by intent is not working anymore. You won't get a standing gain. 5) If you are at -2 (unmodified) with a faction and also with all its friend factions you can trash your character and start from scratch or hope and wait until CCP changes game mechanics. (I'm not 100% sure about (4) and honestly not about the rest.) All correct except 5. Your effective standing is what matters... unmodified standings aren't important. Yes, right. Really confused what I wrote there. I had someone in mind who already trained Diplomacy to level 5 and actually meant that with Diplo 5 and effective standing below -2 for a faction and all its friendly factions the game is over to ever be able to fix that. That's right, isn't it? Well, it was impossible to detect that meaning in my post.
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2009.05.05 21:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Reangorette Bianie The only thing I think of that might work is if you check your Mordus Legion standings. ... and Ammatar and Khanid, as someone already mentioned above.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.05.06 06:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Kolmogorow I had someone in mind who already trained Diplomacy to level 5 and actually meant that with Diplo 5 and effective standing below -2 for a faction and all its friendly factions the game is over to ever be able to fix that. That's right, isn't it? Yeah I think that is pretty much the end. Though you may be able to petition to have your standings reset in a case like that... or maybe not, as it would only really be possible to do that by trying, as you'd have to fail a ton of missions for those factions that don't have any NPCs to shoot at. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.06 06:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Kolmogorow Yes, right. Really confused what I wrote there. I had someone in mind who already trained Diplomacy to level 5 and actually meant that with Diplo 5 and effective standing below -2 for a faction and all its friendly factions the game is over to ever be able to fix that. That's right, isn't it? Well, it was impossible to detect that meaning in my post. If you are only a bit under -2 (modified) and you want to raise empire faction standings you have still a slight, one shot, possibility. There are still 2 Concord agents in game. One is in space in the system Mandoo (you need to probe to find him), another is in Caldari space. Both are important storylines so they give faction gains. As Concord is loved by all the empire Faction you will get a slight increase with all the empire faction. That could get you above the threshold with at least one of the linked corporations. Originally by: Dodgy Past When grinding is it as simple as doing 16 level 1 missions, then one faction mission? Or is there a way to speed up the faction gains? for a small faction gain (and only if you already are above -2 faction standing you can run all the "Keep enemy in check" story arc in all the starting stations of a faction. It is a mission you can do only once for each agent giving it, but the second part is a important storyline and will get you a bit of faction standing.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.05.06 07:14:00 - [26] Quote: also don't accept missions that involve killing faction buildings if at all possible as they hammer your faction losses and ignore the 'kill a frigate first' trick May I ask a dumb question? Despite I mission since a good while, I never bothered to check about the <put name here> faction standing drop beyond the usual "don't accept missions vs <put name here> factions". Now, I also know how buildings > big ships > small ships for faction drop. What I have not checked and I'd like to know is: is the faction drop mechanism similar to the security loss due to aggression? I.e. do I get a <put name here> loss as I open fire (as it is for security loss), or only after the ship dies? IE is it enough for me to hit a frigate first (to get the smaller standing loss) and then kill the bigger stuff (drones at this point kill the frigates at their pace) or do I have to kill the frigate first and only then switch to the battleships?
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.05.06 07:28:00 - [27] Edited by: Wet Ferret on 06/05/2009 07:29:17 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: also don't accept missions that involve killing faction buildings if at all possible as they hammer your faction losses and ignore the 'kill a frigate first' trick May I ask a dumb question? Despite I mission since a good while, I never bothered to check about the <put name here> faction standing drop beyond the usual "don't accept missions vs <put name here> factions". Now, I also know how buildings > big ships > small ships for faction drop. What I have not checked and I'd like to know is: is the faction drop mechanism similar to the security loss due to aggression? I.e. do I get a <put name here> loss as I open fire (as it is for security loss), or only after the ship dies? IE is it enough for me to hit a frigate first (to get the smaller standing loss) and then kill the bigger stuff (drones at this point kill the frigates at their pace) or do I have to kill the frigate first and only then switch to the battleships? You don't get faction losses on a per-ship basis or anything like that. The way I understand it is that there is a check to see what the highest "value" (as far as standings losses go) kill within a certain timeframe is, and then that value is applied to your standings as a loss. Also pretty sure a kill is required, as that is how it's worded in the standings transactions log. Though that would be a pretty simple test, just go fire at a belt rat and dock for an hour or something. Too lazy to do it myself edit cause I suck at words But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
voxen Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.06 08:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: Kolmogorow I had someone in mind who already trained Diplomacy to level 5 and actually meant that with Diplo 5 and effective standing below -2 for a faction and all its friendly factions the game is over to ever be able to fix that. That's right, isn't it? Yeah I think that is pretty much the end. Though you may be able to petition to have your standings reset in a case like that... or maybe not, as it would only really be possible to do that by trying, as you'd have to fail a ton of missions for those factions that don't have any NPCs to shoot at. I filed a petition about 2 years ago about 4 standings hits of -25% (!) within one week. Unfortunately I only found out about those hits after I tried to switch to that faction's agents because of a relocation within eve, 6 months after those hits occurred. The response was that they won't reset standings even though they couldn't explain the standing loss. so I doubt they'll reset it, especially if it's simply due to your own actions :S
Cognito Ergosum Amarr Northern Continental Industries	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:15:00 - [29] So at the risk of being thick. . . I have the reverse problem; my gallente and minmatar standings are getting way too low--using the info about the sisers likes and dislikes I should expect those faction standings to increase after sisters storyline missions? As an aside can I do 14 missions for one corp, flip to a sisters mission and get a sisters storyline?
Ta'jek Angels Of Death EVE Free Worlds Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.06 17:22:00 - [30] you can also look at the data center missions to help with increasing faction/corp standing... used the Minmatar ones to bring up my neg standing with them and slightly with Gallente

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