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Mike Whiite
Progressive State
State Section 9
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:06:00 -
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Death Toll007 wrote:. Also, SISI has the new layout for the merlin, and they decided to ditch missles in favor of hybrids. She's awesome BTW, highly recommend.
-DT
Understandable desicion, still I'm going to miss the the only Caldari Duo platform.
I hope there is some place for Hybrid/Missile ship in future, Maybe that woukld be a nice role for Caldari Navy ships. |
Otrebla Utrigas
Space Bastards
12
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:07:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:Death Toll007 wrote:. Also, SISI has the new layout for the merlin, and they decided to ditch missles in favor of hybrids. She's awesome BTW, highly recommend.
-DT Understandable desicion, still I'm going to miss the the only Caldari Duo platform. I hope there is some place for Hybrid/Missile ship in future, Maybe that woukld be a nice role for Caldari Navy ships.
You still have the condor :P |
Maeltstome
Epidemic.
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
1
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:44:00 -
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ACE81 wrote:Fly your Merlin Crazy like this and you don't have to worry about them pesky gun slots lol
[Merlin, merliofdoomlol rockets]
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Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian
Pinked
77
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Posted - 2012.05.11 10:04:00 -
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Hawk has fitting issues, unlike the hawk.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
395
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:45:00 -
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Newsflash: Merlin on SiSi has NO missile slots anymore (and it's also lost it's optimal bonus for a DPS bonus, making it just 'another blasterboat').
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Crellion
Parental Control
18
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:45:00 -
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The Atomium wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:TIL Caldari is the missile race and the Merlin, Harpy, Raptor, Moa, Eagle, Ferox, and Rokh can all go suck a big one and grow missile launcher hardpoints.
I heard, the Naga is p bad too.
That's a good list and the missing dessy was mentioned a few more times in this thread...
Now what does that tell us about the Vulture? (a caldari fighter used by carriers)
(btw back in the day when we was doign lvl4s with 600k SPs and a torp raven what saved my but on said Raven and allowed me to do enough dps to kill BSs coming close was a couple of meta 2-3 large elctron blasters with teh antimatter but I wont bring 2005 into this discussion) |
Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.11 19:46:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Newsflash: Merlin on SiSi has NO missile slots anymore (and it's also lost it's optimal bonus for a DPS bonus, making it just 'another blasterboat').
Well, so much for hoping they wouldn't just up and screw over that silly "diversity" thing. Did they at least change the Hawk and Hookbill over to the Kestrel hull? |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
The House Of Cards.
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:34:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Newsflash: Merlin on SiSi has NO missile slots anymore (and it's also lost it's optimal bonus for a DPS bonus, making it just 'another blasterboat').
So it has +5% damage and +5% shield resists? Or what? |
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
4
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:02:00 -
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Kalli Brixzat wrote:Masamune Dekoro wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:To heck with the merlin, where is my t1 missile based destroyer? THIS 100x THIS Seconded. If there's a 7 launcher Destroyer in the works, I will be rocking that **** on day 1.
There's a 6 launcher destroyer but it is Amarrian. (wtf). The Heretic. The Caldari destroyers are trash. |
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
4
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:10:00 -
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Kalli Brixzat wrote:Exploited Engineer wrote:Fortis88 wrote:The Caldari Merlin needs at least one more missile slot for a total of 3. Err ... you're looking for a Kestrel. (one with a few additional med and low slots) The Merlin needs another _turret_ slot, as by its bonuses it's supposed to be a gunboat. Coming soon. Soon, the Merlin will be like all the other "brawler" frigs - 3 turrets, no missiles.
AHHHH! I hate Caldari ships with no missiles. If i wanted to fire hybrid turrets all day I would have been Gallente. The Merlin is my favorite Caldari frigate. It needs 3 missile slots not 3 turrets. And yes the Kestrel needs another med slot to be effective. Come on CCP. Caldari needs more missiles. |
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
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Posted - 2012.05.12 16:14:00 -
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Kalli Brixzat wrote:Fortis88 wrote:The Caldari Merlin needs at least one more missile slot for a total of 3. And another low slot while you're at it. I am tired of flying Caldari ships and finding out that half of the turret slots are not for missiles. WTF. I am Caldari. I shoot missiles. Give me more missile slots. Hookbill. That is all.
Hookbill costs 30x more than the Merlin. Awesome ship though. Not cost effective.
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Francis Longbottom
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:40:00 -
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Fortis88 wrote:Kalli Brixzat wrote:Masamune Dekoro wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:To heck with the merlin, where is my t1 missile based destroyer? THIS 100x THIS Seconded. If there's a 7 launcher Destroyer in the works, I will be rocking that **** on day 1. There's a 6 launcher destroyer but it is Amarrian. (wtf). The Heretic. The Caldari destroyers are trash.
It used to be able to fit a full spread of launchers and then got the nerf bat.. People had it with 7 standard launchers.. to a frig thats ****.
Shame they screwed it though.. Even the Heretic is a mix platform and lacks..
The only t2 destroyer that gate a full spread of guns is the minmatar.. which of course they get the goodies.. Its not called Winmatar for a reason..Whats worse, they are the dual platform race and everyone else got the mix but them.
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Francis Longbottom
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:55:00 -
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Gallente is way better with hybrid, why they want to mix caldari with them and make them suck at is, is beyond me..They just need to fix all missiles make them useful in pvp, turn the caldari hybrid ships to missile..
If you want hybrid, go gallente.. they are far better at it. |
Dato Koppla
Perkone
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:43:00 -
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On SiSi, Merlin lost it's resistance bonus for the damage bonus, essentially making it crap as optimal bonus for small blasters is lulz, and rails have excessive range and don't need the optimal bonus.
Damage/Resistance would make the Merlin an awesome brick with blasters.
Have you guys seen the new Incursus though > > 10% bonus to reppers + more fitting + 2 low slots O.O |
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
Chained Reactions
10
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Posted - 2012.05.15 01:55:00 -
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Id kill for an upscaled Merlin that was the size of a battlecruiser and got a 7.5% HAM Bonus and 10% Missile Veclocity bonus. Easily the coolest looking hull in the game. |
Velarra
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
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Posted - 2012.05.15 02:09:00 -
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As much as i adore missiles... -really, just breakdown and train hybrids, ewar, and drones too!
(Simultaneously - yes, a T1 destroyer with launchers would be very much appreciated. With an ewar bonus perhaps?) |
Smabs
Higher Than Everest
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:41:00 -
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Merlin is pretty good right now.
Having 3 guns, a utility high and a damage bonus would make it a bit FOTM and overpowered for a t1 frigate. |
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
4
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Posted - 2012.05.16 19:00:00 -
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The Merlin shields and shield resistances are fantastic. Dont fix something that is not broken. If you are going to change anything on the Merlin it needs to be the addition of missile slots. Not the deletion of shield resistances for dps upgrades. I can bring up my dps by just adding another missile slot. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2012.05.17 12:48:00 -
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Fortis88 wrote:The Merlin shields and shield resistances are fantastic. Dont fix something that is not broken. If you are going to change anything on the Merlin it needs to be the addition of missile slots. Not the deletion of shield resistances for dps upgrades. I can bring up my dps by just adding another missile slot.
Newsflash, newbie:
1. The resistance bonus on the Merlin is coming back, last dev post I saw.
2. How exactly do you claim to be a Caldari pilot yet be so blissfully unaware of the dozen or so hybrid ships that make up part of their lineup/philosophy?
The Kestrel is the T1 missile frigate
The Merlin is the T1 gun frigate, and is being buffed to better fit this role.
It's really that simple. (For people who aren't you, at least.)
The missile ships in the Caldari lineup significantly outnumber the turret ones, why exactly do we need more of them? (I mean besides to save your pathetic ass from training gunnery 1)
P.S Caldari pilot here who has skilled both guns and missiles. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.05.18 02:58:00 -
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Fortis88 wrote:The Caldari Merlin needs at least one more missile slot for a total of 3. And another low slot while you're at it. I am tired of flying Caldari ships and finding out that half of the turret slots are not for missiles. WTF. I am Caldari. I shoot missiles. Give me more missile slots.
It's the story of a guy flying some Dominix.
He couldn't understand why he couldn't fit bigger guns than 350's (meta of course) and full rigs/mids of cap rechargers/energy rigs.
"WHat the heck? -my battle cruiser has more dps than this crap and what the heck is this drones bonus? I want guns not drones!!"
Well... |
Korbin Valenroth
White Mango
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 03:59:00 -
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I believe the real problem lies with the fact that the Merlin has two missile slots but no bonuses for them. It seem as if they were added as an afterthought. Couple of options might be...
1. change hybrid optimal to 5% and add a 5% bonus to launcher rate of fire
2. replace both missile slots with a turret and change to 7.5% hybrid optimal 5% hybrid damage 5%, keeping shield bonus
3. Leave it as is. |
Ares Renton
Smoking Minerals Syndicate
Cannabis Legionis
44
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Posted - 2012.05.18 05:49:00 -
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Quote:[Kestrel, kesty]
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Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
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P.S. Give the Merlin 3 turrets, 3 launchers, 4 high slots and a role bonus to missiles. Fix'd. |
Zarnak Wulf
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
349
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Posted - 2012.05.18 07:03:00 -
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The Merlin has been redone on SISSI for quite a while now. It is going to be a pure hybrid boat. Done. Get ******* over it. |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone
Caldari State
442
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Posted - 2012.05.18 10:48:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:The Merlin has been redone on SISSI for quite a while now. It is going to be a pure hybrid boat. Done. Get ******* over it.
Yeah, Merlin is now a mini Harpy. Bloody awesome if you ask me! |
Fireflyb1
Walden Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:43:00 -
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Yah the merlin seriously needs more turret slots |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone
Caldari State
442
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:46:00 -
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Fireflyb1 wrote:Yah the merlin seriously needs more turret slots
In sisi it has 3 turret slots, one high has been moved to low, so 3/4/3 layout. |
Fireflyb1
Walden Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:57:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:Fireflyb1 wrote:Yah the merlin seriously needs more turret slots In sisi it has 3 turret slots, one high has been moved to low, so 3/4/3 layout.
:O woot! that's absolutely perfect lol, can't wait to try it out solo in nullsec ;) |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
198
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Posted - 2012.05.18 13:35:00 -
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Bit of a shame about the lack of a utility high but for an extra low I certainly can't complain there. CCP has done a damn good job with this one. |
Hans Tesla
RigWerks Incorporated
1
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Posted - 2012.05.18 16:13:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:Fireflyb1 wrote:Yah the merlin seriously needs more turret slots In sisi it has 3 turret slots, one high has been moved to low, so 3/4/3 layout.
Daddy likey. That's great. Hated that split-slot layout, not a fan of the Tristan for the same reason. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
199
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Posted - 2012.05.18 21:12:00 -
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Hans Tesla wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:Fireflyb1 wrote:Yah the merlin seriously needs more turret slots In sisi it has 3 turret slots, one high has been moved to low, so 3/4/3 layout. Daddy likey. That's great. Hated that split-slot layout, not a fan of the Tristan for the same reason.
To be honest it's not like either were bad ships, but the split weapons did make them significantly less newbie-friendly, and really what's the point of a non-newbie friendly T1 frigate? |
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