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Cheekything
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Posted - 2009.05.07 03:39:00 -
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I know there is probally loads of threads prior to this but none which are even active that i can see.
Ok the benefit of an Eos are:
It gives a bonus to EWAR gang link modules - which we all love.
It has nice resists for Kin/Therm. - Not that great for a bonus but still it's nice
this is it...
The down sides or why people dont use them:
They have no drone bonuses... - Ishtars bigger cousin it is not
They cannot field 5 heavy drones why? they have no bonuses....
They only have 6 lows and 4 mids.. - The Myrm has more mids which is frankly bizzare.
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As the largest drone developer and manufacturer in space, CreoDron has a vested interest in drone carriers. While sacrificing relatively little in the way of defensive capability, the Eos can chew its way through surprisingly strong opponents - provided, of course, that the pilot uses top-of-the-line CreoDron drones.
This is not the case it can use 6 mediums guns with only 3 heavy/ 5 medium drones... of which a brutix can do the same if not more DPS.
Also noted the 15m3 drone bay "bonus" is not worth anything.....
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Changes I can suggest to make it more in line with a real Command ships.
Give it 2 or 3 of the following.
5%/7.5%/10% drone bonus per a level - This is due to it needing some sort of drone damage mod even if it is small which make it not really a drone boat.
10 drone control cpu per level of Commandship - This mean that at level 5 you can use 5 heavy drones which is frankly fair.
1 extra mid slot - For the extra cap etc.
change 7.5% rep bonus to 10% per level.
5km to drone control range per level of Command Ship.
These changes are to actually make it worth flying the ship.
Note not of all these are viable but it's for musing.
Personally to make it a good fair ship i'd give it the following
7.5 drone bonus per a level of battlecruiser
10 drone control cpu per command ship level
1 extra mid slot
This means it is officially a drone boat.
Personally I think it needs to be more inline with the ishtar as currently it isn't the best tanking command ship and it has one of the worst damages as well.
I also understand it can't be better than the other Command ships of it's line but as it stands it shouldn't be worse than it's tier 2 counterpart.
Views and feedback.
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Cheekything
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2009.05.07 16:51:00 -
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The thing is the Eos can't tank effectively like it's counter parts, also it's not a drone boat and it gets out dpsed by it's tech 1 counter parts.
Granted you expect to be in a EWAR heavy gang but when a expensive ship has no real defence what is it meant to do?
Also what I'm suggesting isn't give it 5 heavy drones it's give it the chance too field 5 heavy drones or get a small damage bonus.
The reason for the 10 CPU per a level is that if you want the full 5 drone effect you need to train the skill up to 5.
Also when you can already field 5 heavy drones + 50% damage on the ishtar and domi spending 40 days to make the command ships skill to do the same may seem inefficient as you could be only getting 5 with a 25% or 37.5% increase.
Frankly the 5% turret damage can disappear as that is next to useless.
My main issues with the ship is that it can hardly tank and its meant to be a drone boat yet ... has no skills for it.
Some of you may be happy with it already but i'm sure the majority aren't.
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Cheekything
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2009.05.07 17:36:00 -
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I'm mainly looking at it's own description not the player designated role.
Which states it scarifies a bit of tank for drones.
The only real way to make it a "better" tank would be to add an extra mid and low slot or increase the rep bonus.
But since this would contradict the description then a bonus to damage since it'd maybe be more useful.
However maybe instead of a drone damage bonus maybe I should suggest a EWAR drone bonus instead as then it'd become a ewar ship as well.
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Cheekything
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2009.05.08 05:38:00 -
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Thank you but i'm not intrested in people whining about what i've said I'd rather get feedback not whiney flamers ta.
So decent feedback please.
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Cheekything
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 01:59:00 -
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It's kind of ironic how the Eos doesn't use armour warlinks as well since the Erbus gives an armour bonus.
But still IMO all ships in the game should have a set role and still be useable rather than docked up in a POS afking.... this may be helpful but useless.
Also note i'm only making suggestion on how to improve it so it is useable, I am in no way saying make it a elite solo pawn ship.
I am instead saying hey here is a sexy looking ship that gives cool bonuses... but is useless outside of huge fleets of recons give it a secondary role as a ratting, plexing mild pvp ship that is worth it's huge price tag.
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Cheekything
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.05.11 01:17:00 -
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Firstly thank you to silken mouth as your giving better points and ideas than I did seemly.
However I know most people are against the Eos getting more DPS than the other 3 .
What you may not realise is this is one of the traits of Gallente ships the majority of them do push a heavy dps due to the nature of the guns they use plus the drones they bare.
I still think it needs a better defence but sometimes a good offence is a good defence.
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