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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.09.05 00:23:00 -
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Its about pride.
I would never pay, even if in an uninsured ship and with implants.
In my mind its simple.
You dont give in to the enemy 
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.09.05 00:23:00 -
[92]
Its about pride.
I would never pay, even if in an uninsured ship and with implants.
In my mind its simple.
You dont give in to the enemy
Spawn of the Devil
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.05 02:26:00 -
[93]
You pay for your 'life' or you die. Both are sucky choices. I'd never pay. simply because i can't lol.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.05 02:26:00 -
[94]
You pay for your 'life' or you die. Both are sucky choices. I'd never pay. simply because i can't lol.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:33:00 -
[95]
Edited by: olyyy on 05/09/2004 03:36:42
Experience prooves that the people who accept to pay and pay the most isk are pirates.
When you try to ransom a carebear he says: "I won't pay you coz I would be sponsoring an ebil pirate" or worse he answers "I don't have the money" (which is bad for ya if you can't fly the BS he is flying = no eject deal). When he says that he can't pay, he might even refuse to eject for some *honor* reason. 
When you try to ransom a pirate, the guy knows how annoying it will be to get back his stuff once shot down and how much it will cost him. And tbh, he has been ransoming people before and realizes that **** happens.
I don't see any disgrace in paying a ransom, you got caught, u lost. It's even a nice deal that is proposed to you since u won't have to buy a new ship, new equippment etc...
Anyway, I don't ransom except when the guy dying is proposing me (and if i'm checking local). The reason ? I don't need money 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:33:00 -
[96]
Edited by: olyyy on 05/09/2004 03:36:42
Experience prooves that the people who accept to pay and pay the most isk are pirates.
When you try to ransom a carebear he says: "I won't pay you coz I would be sponsoring an ebil pirate" or worse he answers "I don't have the money" (which is bad for ya if you can't fly the BS he is flying = no eject deal). When he says that he can't pay, he might even refuse to eject for some *honor* reason.
When you try to ransom a pirate, the guy knows how annoying it will be to get back his stuff once shot down and how much it will cost him. And tbh, he has been ransoming people before and realizes that **** happens.
I don't see any disgrace in paying a ransom, you got caught, u lost. It's even a nice deal that is proposed to you since u won't have to buy a new ship, new equippment etc...
Anyway, I don't ransom except when the guy dying is proposing me (and if i'm checking local). The reason ? I don't need money
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.05 08:30:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Lifewire on 05/09/2004 08:32:16
They donŠt pay because insurance payout is to high. In forums they make big waves and tell people that "they donŠt support pirates" or "pirates are lazy" but if they wouldnt get 85-90% of their battleship payed by insurance, you would see them pay very very very fast. Face it - we still play in easy mode - press spacebar to continue...
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.05 08:30:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Lifewire on 05/09/2004 08:32:16
They donŠt pay because insurance payout is to high. In forums they make big waves and tell people that "they donŠt support pirates" or "pirates are lazy" but if they wouldnt get 85-90% of their battleship payed by insurance, you would see them pay very very very fast. Face it - we still play in easy mode - press spacebar to continue...
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Evangelist
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:21:00 -
[99]
Nice to see so many folk with a similar mindset as my own - never pay a pirate ransom 
Although I also have a dream.I think it would be nice if every miner had a further special duty. When ship insurance is about to expire, gather those ships together, fit guns and inflict as many losses on the most annoying pirates in your neighbourhood. Effectively costing them their own BS insurance (and maybe juicy module costs) for the price of basic ship set ups of your own.
Imagine if this was done across corps - a whole fleet of truly expendable battleships every insurance cycle, or smaller numbers staggered over time 
Renegade suicidal miners 
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Evangelist
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:21:00 -
[100]
Nice to see so many folk with a similar mindset as my own - never pay a pirate ransom
Although I also have a dream.I think it would be nice if every miner had a further special duty. When ship insurance is about to expire, gather those ships together, fit guns and inflict as many losses on the most annoying pirates in your neighbourhood. Effectively costing them their own BS insurance (and maybe juicy module costs) for the price of basic ship set ups of your own.
Imagine if this was done across corps - a whole fleet of truly expendable battleships every insurance cycle, or smaller numbers staggered over time
Renegade suicidal miners
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.06 15:48:00 -
[101]
 Originally by: Evangelist
Nice to see so many folk with a similar mindset as my own - never pay a pirate ransom
Although I also have a dream.I think it would be nice if every miner had a further special duty. When ship insurance is about to expire, gather those ships together, fit guns and inflict as many losses on the most annoying pirates in your neighbourhood. Effectively costing them their own BS insurance (and maybe juicy module costs) for the price of basic ship set ups of your own.
Imagine if this was done across corps - a whole fleet of truly expendable battleships every insurance cycle, or smaller numbers staggered over time
Renegade suicidal miners
Well problem is that miners really suck at pvp so most of time they just get slaughtered without inflicting a loss superior to a drone  So basicly they should pay ad forget about it 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.06 15:48:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Evangelist
Nice to see so many folk with a similar mindset as my own - never pay a pirate ransom
Although I also have a dream.I think it would be nice if every miner had a further special duty. When ship insurance is about to expire, gather those ships together, fit guns and inflict as many losses on the most annoying pirates in your neighbourhood. Effectively costing them their own BS insurance (and maybe juicy module costs) for the price of basic ship set ups of your own.
Imagine if this was done across corps - a whole fleet of truly expendable battleships every insurance cycle, or smaller numbers staggered over time
Renegade suicidal miners
Well problem is that miners really suck at pvp so most of time they just get slaughtered without inflicting a loss superior to a drone So basicly they should pay ad forget about it
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Hospisa
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Posted - 2004.09.07 04:10:00 -
[103]
I'll never pay a ransom, you can pick my tech 2 gear out of my wreckage. Implants, what implants?
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Hospisa
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Posted - 2004.09.07 04:10:00 -
[104]
I'll never pay a ransom, you can pick my tech 2 gear out of my wreckage. Implants, what implants?
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Castimandua
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:55:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Evangelist
Imagine if this was done across corps - a whole fleet of truly expendable battleships every insurance cycle, or smaller numbers staggered over time
A 'Miner Tsunami' love it
No to the ransoms ! 'Do not feed the animals'
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Castimandua
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Posted - 2004.09.07 07:55:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Evangelist
Imagine if this was done across corps - a whole fleet of truly expendable battleships every insurance cycle, or smaller numbers staggered over time
A 'Miner Tsunami' love it
No to the ransoms ! 'Do not feed the animals'
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:01:00 -
[107]
I would never pay a pirate. If you can't afford to lose your ship/implants you shouldn't be there at all.
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2004.09.07 08:01:00 -
[108]
I would never pay a pirate. If you can't afford to lose your ship/implants you shouldn't be there at all.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:43:00 -
[109]
Face it - you donŠt pay the tolls because itŠs too easy for the 0.0-miners to make ISK. You simply donŠt care about the ISK you need to get new implants. And if you get tolled in a battleship you prefer getting the insurance payout.
Imagine no insurance and less high ore roids - you guys would beg to pay the tolls.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:43:00 -
[110]
Face it - you donŠt pay the tolls because itŠs too easy for the 0.0-miners to make ISK. You simply donŠt care about the ISK you need to get new implants. And if you get tolled in a battleship you prefer getting the insurance payout.
Imagine no insurance and less high ore roids - you guys would beg to pay the tolls.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:52:00 -
[111]
Sometimes people let dogma stand in the way of common sense.
Only this last weekend one of the people I pirated gave me the 'I'd rather die than pay your demands - I won't support a pirate' speech, so I blew up his ship and podded him.
I asked 10mil, total value of the mods dropped from his ship, 22.5mil.
He lost his ship, his clone, apparently implants going by the friendly mail I got from one of his corpmates, all to deprive me of 10mil - but ultimately he lost all that AND gave me 22.5mil.
Go figure. 
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:52:00 -
[112]
Sometimes people let dogma stand in the way of common sense.
Only this last weekend one of the people I pirated gave me the 'I'd rather die than pay your demands - I won't support a pirate' speech, so I blew up his ship and podded him.
I asked 10mil, total value of the mods dropped from his ship, 22.5mil.
He lost his ship, his clone, apparently implants going by the friendly mail I got from one of his corpmates, all to deprive me of 10mil - but ultimately he lost all that AND gave me 22.5mil.
Go figure.
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:29:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Avon
Sometimes people let dogma stand in the way of common sense.
Only this last weekend one of the people I pirated gave me the 'I'd rather die than pay your demands - I won't support a pirate' speech, so I blew up his ship and podded him.
I asked 10mil, total value of the mods dropped from his ship, 22.5mil.
He lost his ship, his clone, apparently implants going by the friendly mail I got from one of his corpmates, all to deprive me of 10mil - but ultimately he lost all that AND gave me 22.5mil.
Go figure.
He should have selfdestructed....
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:29:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Avon
Sometimes people let dogma stand in the way of common sense.
Only this last weekend one of the people I pirated gave me the 'I'd rather die than pay your demands - I won't support a pirate' speech, so I blew up his ship and podded him.
I asked 10mil, total value of the mods dropped from his ship, 22.5mil.
He lost his ship, his clone, apparently implants going by the friendly mail I got from one of his corpmates, all to deprive me of 10mil - but ultimately he lost all that AND gave me 22.5mil.
Go figure.
He should have selfdestructed....
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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marcopollo
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:01:00 -
[115]
Edited by: marcopollo on 07/09/2004 12:09:24
I think its about control and power.
A pirate likes to feel powerful, salivating over his prey on the monitor, beating a defenseless ship down and demanding a ransom, total control and power trip until....
The other guy has the money but refuses to pay and is prepared to lose his ship/implants etc.
Pirate has just lost control cos he doesnt get what he wants in the way he wants it and passive powerplay goes to the defiant player miner.
Good for the miner 
edit - forgot to say that many miners also have some measure of self respect
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marcopollo
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:01:00 -
[116]
Edited by: marcopollo on 07/09/2004 12:09:24
I think its about control and power.
A pirate likes to feel powerful, salivating over his prey on the monitor, beating a defenseless ship down and demanding a ransom, total control and power trip until....
The other guy has the money but refuses to pay and is prepared to lose his ship/implants etc.
Pirate has just lost control cos he doesnt get what he wants in the way he wants it and passive powerplay goes to the defiant player miner.
Good for the miner
edit - forgot to say that many miners also have some measure of self respect
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Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:02:00 -
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Simple answer.
Evil pirate ,"Thanks for the ISK! Now try a few of these missiles for size!"
Gullible miner ,"AWWWW! Why did you shoot me anyway?"
Evil pirate,"Because I'm a pirate! Derrr!"
Gullible miner ,"But that's not fair!"
Evil pirate,"Muahahahaaaa!"
Gullible miner,"You m*ther is a......", shouted just before the escape pod jumps.
Manufacturers of the 425mm Railgun II |
Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:02:00 -
[118]
Simple answer.
Evil pirate,"Thanks for the ISK! Now try a few of these missiles for size!"
Gullible miner,"AWWWW! Why did you shoot me anyway?"
Evil pirate,"Because I'm a pirate! Derrr!"
Gullible miner,"But that's not fair!"
Evil pirate,"Muahahahaaaa!"
Gullible miner,"You m*ther is a......", shouted just before the escape pod jumps.
Manufacturers of the 425mm Railgun II |
Lizaa
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:16:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Fto Cruise
Simple answer.
Evil pirate,"Thanks for the ISK! Now try a few of these missiles for size!"
Gullible miner,"AWWWW! Why did you shoot me anyway?"
Evil pirate,"Because I'm a pirate! Derrr!"
Gullible miner,"But that's not fair!"
Evil pirate,"Muahahahaaaa!"
Gullible miner,"You m*ther is a......", shouted just before the escape pod jumps.
This last part is troublesome....some ppl are hard to pk, but a gullible miner is easy pickins. He would have been podkilled b4 he knew what hit em, and on that note u tend to get 'fanmail' when u do that. Atleast u know u are popular that way
Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ
Death is coming!!!!!
Ph34r teh Retribution. |
Lizaa
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:16:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Fto Cruise
Simple answer.
Evil pirate,"Thanks for the ISK! Now try a few of these missiles for size!"
Gullible miner,"AWWWW! Why did you shoot me anyway?"
Evil pirate,"Because I'm a pirate! Derrr!"
Gullible miner,"But that's not fair!"
Evil pirate,"Muahahahaaaa!"
Gullible miner,"You m*ther is a......", shouted just before the escape pod jumps.
This last part is troublesome....some ppl are hard to pk, but a gullible miner is easy pickins. He would have been podkilled b4 he knew what hit em, and on that note u tend to get 'fanmail' when u do that. Atleast u know u are popular that way
Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ
Death is coming!!!!!
Ph34r teh Retribution. |
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