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Shaina Marru
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:53:00 -
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Last night i scanned out a hemorphite, jaspet and krokite site and the closest i could scan it is 99.78%. I tried for 3 hours to get 100% but couldn't and i want to know why. Seriously im effing ****ed off at this because I was tired for work this morning. Is it because I lack scanning skills or was it a bugged scan?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:58:00 -
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You need to move the probes closer together on the hit. Rescanning won't improve the hit if you don't move the probes into a better position.
With my average skills, it took me quite a while to fiddle the probes close enough to get a 100% hit but it worked. Had used 5 probes, one on the hit and the other four in all directions, almost on top of each other, just far enough away to not screw up the pinpointing.
Good luck.
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Shannon Hamilton
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:59:00 -
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I had the same problem with a Grav site and despite all skills at 4, using sisters launcher and probes and in a cov ops ship could not get down past 95% so maybe some are buuged.
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Shaina Marru
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:07:00 -
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Oh i'll tell ya what i was ****ed because this was in high sec, i had them on top of the box, i used 5 to make it look like a thumbpad controll i mean there was no reason it wasn't locking on to 100%. Only thing i can think of is maybe if i had pinpointing as a skill, maybe theres a level of hardness about it. but i still think i deserve it for the time i put in.
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Fourty Niner
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Fourty Niner on 08/05/2009 19:00:54
you have to move the probe FURTHER apart.
One probe ontop of where you think the site is, and the others about 50% of there radius away, in different directions. You can then move them a bit closer together if you want, but I find that this seems to often reduce %
You might have rubbish skills, but on asking arround within corp with ppl with this problem, it often turns out they are putting all the probes ontop of the signal
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Gamov
Cool Ninjas of Awesome Ownage
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Posted - 2009.05.08 19:19:00 -
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everyone says move them closer together. pre-patch this was not allowed (like the center of one probe must not intersect with another probe). i assume this has been changed?
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Koori
LifeLine Solutions
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Posted - 2009.05.08 19:39:00 -
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It's possible that your scan strength is too low to scan this site down. Check info on scan probe launcher. It lists Scan Strength. Only with strength of 100+ you will be able to find EVERY site.
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Shaina Marru
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 21:17:00 -
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I belive your right with the scan power, i will check when i get back home tonight. Really frustrating though, could have been a nice quick bit of money before our war started 30 minutes later :/
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Laguna LG
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Posted - 2009.05.09 07:35:00 -
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I've had the exact same thing on 2 different hed, hem, jaspet sites in 2 different systems. What the crap is going on here?? I haven't had any previous trouble getting anything to 100%.
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Canute Minealot
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Posted - 2009.05.09 11:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Gamov
everyone says move them closer together. pre-patch this was not allowed (like the center of one probe must not intersect with another probe). i assume this has been changed?
Move closer, but dont move all at the same spot and not all on the DOT you see on the map. Your Scan computer can't triangulate a position when all probes aer on the same spot.
The Scan str. of the probes slighty increase towards the probe. You can get 5-10% increase of the Signal str. when you arrange your probes close around the Signal DOT.
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Sombike
Caldari
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.09 11:20:00 -
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Get as close to it as possible with ur probes, drop like 8 probes or sth, cover the site from every direction possible and scan ... should get it with 1 cycle ... :)
If it gives u under 100% move ur probes a few and scan again, shouldnt take more than 5-6 scans for a plex if u know how to set up probes.
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Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.09 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Shaina Marru
Last night i scanned out a hemorphite, jaspet and krokite site and the closest i could scan it is 99.78%. I tried for 3 hours to get 100% but couldn't and i want to know why. Seriously im effing ****ed off at this because I was tired for work this morning. Is it because I lack scanning skills or was it a bugged scan?
look on the bright side, after 3 hours ur very lucky u didn't wake up in a clone vat..........
positioning 5 probes at 0.25 Au all overlapping the 90%+ spot will give u a 100% hit within 3 or 4 tries (even if eve hates u)... even combat probes at 0.5 AU does it too,its all down to positioning
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Shaina Marru
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.11 14:22:00 -
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Last night again I spent a good hour trying to scan a signature out.. 55% tops. finally docked and changed ships and i didn't have the problem after wards. Could this be some hidden affect because of ship used?
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.11 15:21:00 -
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train astrometric pinpointing to 3 at least.
use scan strength rigs and a cov ops and you should get a 100% result on every site.
i had the same problem as you. no matter how i placed the probes i would not get the green light and that was at a 100% result no less. only training the skills changed that.
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:10:00 -
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I couldn't get more than 70% on a site in high-sec in an unbonused Arbitrator with skills at 3/3/3. Friend in Anathema came along and got it to 95% but still couldn't get it.
I guess there are some sites that you need near-maxed probing skills to find, which is "a good thing" imo.
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Dzil
Caldari
Second Quadrant Ice Division
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shaina Marru
Last night i scanned out a hemorphite, jaspet and krokite site and the closest i could scan it is 99.78%. I tried for 3 hours to get 100% but couldn't and i want to know why. Seriously im effing ****ed off at this because I was tired for work this morning. Is it because I lack scanning skills or was it a bugged scan?
1. How many probes?
2. Skills? Ship?
3. I'm amazed you spent 3 hours scanning for something. I'm bored after 10 minutes.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:56:00 -
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3 hours wasn't all that unusual for a tough site before the probing mechanics change. This is why some people opposed the changes.
The major difference I noticed between the old and new systems is the random chance is gone. Before, if I had a site that only had a 2% chance of showing up per scan, I knew that if I just sat there long enough sooner or later the random number generator would give me a hit, allowing me to put a stronger probe closer. Now the randomness is gone. This is good and bad.
Some sites are inherently easy to find and some are inherently difficult. Since you no longer have the random success chance, if your skills aren't good enough you'll never be able to localize it. You want the things that increase success: Covert Ops frigate with level 4-5 skill preferably or astrometrics frigate with level 4 skill at minimum, Sisters probe launcher and probes if you can afford it, Gravity Capacitor Upgrade rigs (must haves these days) on the scan ship, and perhaps even a PPH-1 or PPH-2 implant.
Even with good skills (my Buzzard lists scan probe strength at 107 with Sisters probes loaded, and my skills aren't perfect) some sites take longer than others. The more difficult sites I have to play with probe positioning. The dot is NOT where the site is, and they no longer list the deviation on the results. If you move the probes too close to the dot, you can wind up putting one or more of the probes on the wrong side of the actual site and lowering your signal strength as a result.
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Aargh
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Posted - 2009.05.11 22:50:00 -
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Place them in a diamond around the signature at a 45 degree angle to the horizon.
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