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Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.11 06:03:00 - [1] Heh I should take my npc corp Osprey mining squad of doom and go mine away. Lots of room for extenders and resists to make the cost of suiciding them for zero gain in a 1.0 quite high. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.11 06:25:00 - [2] Yeah zero gain. Ospreys are free after insurance and I have enough spare fittings to last for litterally years. So if they decided to spend that isk they are getting to police the system on a suicide op they would lose it as I would just go right back out again. Tbh I think it would be hilarious if every npc corp miner in the area flocked to the system and mined it out in a day. Then we will see how much net profit they can keep out of their 'deal'. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.11 06:43:00 - [3] Actually I'm pretty sure bumping is a petitionable offence if its just to keep miners from mining and not in a pvp situation like keeping a ship out of alingment or away from a gate. A case can probably be made for corps they have war decced but then they would just blow them up and not bother bumping them. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.11 07:41:00 - [4] Originally by: Sanre Echei The entire game is PvP, mining, trading, scamming etc are just as much about beating the other guy as spaceships going shooty. Deal. Oh I'm perfectly fine with what they are doing. I was mearly handing out some advice to the lurker population of the forums on how to mine all that juicy ore and make noir work for it in the process. Everyone has fun then. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.13 07:49:00 - [5] Whilst the cats are away. The mice will play. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.13 11:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Fifinella If I need the info, I'll scan you down again. That was moar for the lurkers who might want to jump in on the fun and less for you. Originally by: Fifinella I wasn't aware you were so well versed with our contract as to be able to judge whether we're fulfilling it or not. Please feel free to inform our customer about our breach of contract at your earliest opportunity. KK, here it is from your own corpmate from the first page. Originally by: Jimer Lins 4. Our actions are limited to specifically interdicting mining operations in Hedion. Anyone who wishes to mine may do so elsewhere. If you attempt to mine in Hedion, we will disrupt you. See Exhibit A. Originally by: Fifinella This tells a lot more about you than us, to be honest. If you _really_ think we'll fall for something as silly as that, why haven't you given it a try? Why is it, btw, that us on a contract are wasting our time (and why do you take such a huge interest in it anyway?), while you _claim_ to be doing all sorts of cool stuff with your alts while using just one account to mess with us, and then it turns out you're actually giving us _all_ your attention? Aren't _you_ just wasting time? So when you said you're doing cool stuff with your accounts while annoying us with one, you were lying? Well quess what? When I said I'm doing other stuff than just staring at (mostly) empty belts? I wasn't lying. And please don't claim to be "stalking a prey in lowsec" while juggling a cloaked hauler in an asteroid belt to reach a moving can, a "mining" ship, and the "well-hidden Orca" (none of which I believe for a second, incidentally, but let's indulge you for a moment here) at the same time. I'm a retired man who has lots of free time and Eve is the perfect filler for it. Since I was a wee lad I remeber Buck Rodgers and reading H.G. Wells then on to Star Trek when I had grown and on to all the great sci-fi since then. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I discovered Eve and it has been a huge occupier of my days as it keeps my mind flexible and lets me socialize with people from across the entire world who all share my love of spacehips and pew pew with a generous helping of skullduggery along the way. Its like an elaborate hobby that always has something new to do or a challenging change of pace by doing some other career or role. To sum it up I guess I simply love this game and the vision the creaters have for it. Exhibit A Exhibit B Originally by: Fifinella It's interesting to note how several posts in this thread are desperately trying to get more people to come to Hedion to annoy us. "They all fly faction cruisers and are really easy to trap, come gank them" is new, but the best laughs I'm getting are from all the "OMG it's full of ore!"-messages. As an ex-miner, I can say that what Hedion has is called gravel, not asteroids, yet people try to make it sound like the lost mines of Solomon. I'm actually grateful for that, since more targets (bumpaple or otherwise) means less boredom. I'm not really sure how to reply to that tbh. Originally by: Fifinella And Tyrantus, you got it wrong way up in your earlier post: I wasn't saying your attempts at amusing, I mean annoying us are what's causing us grief. On the contrary. An empty system would be the worst thing, that would really feel like we were the griefed ones, not the griefers. Any distraction from bumping the same Hulk out of range for the umpteenth time is a bonus. Well, almost any: Some of the smack on local has been just sad. So why are you bashing me for trying to get people to come to Hedion to have a bit of fun? Dude pick something and stick with it ffs. Tank your cruisers and laugh as some nub in a destroyer tries to pop you or some other silliness. Be creative. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.13 23:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Fifinella I'm not bashing you for trying to get people to come to Hedion, I'm bashing you for giving them false hope. They're welcome to come over, and if they're a little disappointed about what they'll find, we can provide them with the names of your alts to vent their disappointment on in all the creative ways suggested in this and the other thread you started on the subject. False hope of what? Having a bit of fun at your exspense? Roffles.. I challenge you to completely vacate the system and see if a proper hulk mining squad with orca in tow shows up. It Won't as the only people who have ever mined in that system are newbs and the few total empire hugging carebear miners in solo barges with possibly a hauler on a second account in tow. Your corp stated that all mining ops were to be disrupted and looky looky it was not. Not even close really compared to the normal Hedion mining traffic. You failed your contract as it was unenforcable anyways. Sure you can reduce the normal mining a bit but you can't stop it. As you have seen when people are denied something they go to great lengths to overcome the obstical even if all it gets them is the satisfaction of a well countered foe. As far as my alts. LOL mate those are known to everyone who matters as its my normal low sec/0.0 exploration and pew pew crew so by all means pour some isk into the locator agents and come a callin. I'll make sure to give you a warm welcome along with no doubt the normal locals wanting a piece too. As far as flushing out my alts and spreading names I'll say you have 4 names out of 15. So in closing I'm so afraid now that my true mains will be discovered that I think I'll biomass them all and start afresh. OMG I just realised I have lost eve so how will I survive this horrible horrible 'defeat'.. Not. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.14 01:42:00 - [8] If you are new to the forum game the previous few posts are what we call a defensive huddle. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.15 03:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Fifinella Sheesh, I knew this was going to be tough to explain to you, so I'll try typing slower: Of course you filled up your Orca, but consider (hard) this: Did the cargo hold of your Orca fill up noticeably FASTER or SLOWER than it does when you use one or more Hulks to mine, instead of just a single non-mining ship with named T1 mining drills? Calculate how much ore you could mine per hour with, say, 3 Hulks and an Orca in the belt, with a hauler moving the ore from the Orca to station. Now calculate how much ore you actually mined in an hour using a single Blackbird with 3 named T1 lasers. The difference in those two figures is what we call "disruption". Well the problem we have here with your comparison is that it is based on the assumption that the system to mine is worth the effort of using a full blown hulk and orca squad in the first place. It is not. Its a newb system with just enough ore to make mining with low sp characters or part time players who are looking to safely justify the barges they trained up for to logon and mine for a bit. So in effect my mining op and yield was typical of what would normaly be taken out by a small group as it could have been just as easily done with an osprey and cloaked indy both of which are easily available to a new player. My high sp was irrelevant as were the ships I used because your stated goal was to disrupt normal mining operations. You did not and currently are not. See attached exhibits c, d and e. Originally by: Fif Originally by: Zeba I challenge you to completely vacate the system and see if a proper hulk mining squad with orca in tow shows up. Please contact Alekseyev Karrde in game if you wish to negotiate hiring us. Looks like it wasn't needed after all. See attached exhibits c, d and e. Exhibit C Exhibit D Exhibit E Last pic was just a few minutes ago. So where are you Noir. Dispatch called and is getting worried. Quote: The fact that I know 4 of your alts was, how did it go, "That was moar for the lurkers who might want to jump in on the fun and less for you." I have no intention to "come calling" unless, of course, I get paid for it. As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well, it's not quite as scary as you seem to think it is. I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little. Besides, what would I need locator agents for? See you on Hedion local! Jeepers you pull moar 180's than a Starsky and Hutch episode. I Don't Care Who Knows And Never Have. Also who in thier right mind would be afraid of anything in a game. That you are even if it is a little bit is almoast too much for an olde man to take. I mean seriously I could blow a lower disk I'm laughing so hard. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.15 06:36:00 - [10] Edited by: Zeba on 15/05/2009 06:43:23 Originally by: Fifinella Originally by: Zeba Last pic was just a few minutes ago. So where are you Noir. Dispatch called and is getting worried. Well see, our contract in Hedion already ended 2 days ago, I've just been stringing you along to see how long I can keep you there after we've left. My how convienient that it ends right on the day I started disrupting your recruiting promoti.. errr contract in Hedion. So this whole thread has been a joke? Whodathunkit! Personally since you opened the whole accusation thing about me making stuff up, something that I promptly trumped with proof each and every time I might add, all we have to go on with your claims of the contracts timetable and even its existance are vauge explantions of mysterious employers with even moar mysterious goals. Bullshait.. It was a stunt to go along with your thread in crime and punishment and a recruitment promotional event to drum up attention and pull some new blood out of the woodwork. But eh you will just come back and say no its incorrect we had a legit cont.. blah. Originally by: Fifi Originally by: Zeba Also who in thier right mind would be afraid of anything in a game? I don't know. You just seemed to imply in your post that I should be somehow afraid of you and the locals who might want "a piece of me". You were the one who talked about spreading my alts names to your corp and others to harrass or hunt me. So drop on by the Taff circle whomever it may concern with a gang then start some trouble and see how long you last. The locals are not friendly and just one of the allied corps in the area outnumber Noir. at least 2 to 1 with the others closer to 4 to 1. Poke your corp into that nest and its gonna get whacked like a pimp whacks his trick. Originally by: Fifi Originally by: Zeba That you are even if it is a little bit is almoast too much for an olde man to take. I mean seriously I could blow a lower disk I'm laughing so hard. Irony for you is just something your doctor told to you to get more of, isn't it? What laughter? Like anything even too much laughter can be bad for you and I think that I and the vast silent majority, if the nearly 10,000 views are any indication, will agree that it has been given out in overdoase quantitys here. Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.15 07:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Fifinella Originally by: Zeba My how convienient that it ends right on the day I started disrupting your recruiting promoti.. errr contract in Hedion. So this whole thread has been a joke? No, only most of it. Corporation-button -> wars -> other wars -> type in "Noir." and look how many wars we currently have active. You know why there aren't any? Because the contract is over. Yeah so you say. But you also have 68 pilots in your corp and could easily have rotated a couple in and out to keep your mercs happy with some pew pew as a suprisingly determined foe chipped away at thier resolve in Hedion. Then you could have kept the recruit op open and not had to have ditched the 'contract' when they had no moar fun and refused to go. Originally by: Fifi Originally by: Zeba Drop on by the Taff circle with a gang then start some trouble and see how long you last. The locals are not friendly and just one of the allied corps in the area outnumber your entire corp at least 2 to 1 with the others closer to 4 to 1. Poke your corp into that nest and its gonna get whacked like a pimp whacks his trick. I'm not sure you understand the nature of mercenaries, but we'll drop by when we paid to do so, not before. It also seems you don't understand some very basic truths about lowsec/0.0 combat: If we were to bring a gang into the area, I doubt a corp that on paper outnumbers us 4 to 1 would actually outnumber us _during our op_ by that much: They'd be unprepared and scattered, while we would be in a fleet working in unison. Heheh. Please mate I've have been in the Taff circle for weeks now and have seen some action that would make 0.0 fights look small. These corps are nearly all pvp and are sitting on some nice moons that tend to make them buzz around in capitol fleets with shoals of bs, T2 cruisers of all make and flocks of tacklers. The only reason they let me alone(well moastly :P) is becuase I go after the ratters looking to cash in on the numerous bs spawns and better than 0.0 faction drops. Hell I have most of a domination pos setup guns and all just off faction and exploration drops that other people had first. Its a truely fantastic system but its a dangerous place at best so really if you ever get a contract offer to go pos bash one of those moons just say no or you will lose your arse. This is no shiat mate I mean it stay away from the Taff circle is you want to keep your kill to death ratio high. And none of this has a thing to do with me as I would simply be another hunter after your arse. Plz no moar 300 references mate. You do know the meaning of passe' yes? Now as far as my pvp prowness just look up Tyrantus killmails since he is the only alt that I was forced to post killmails on in any signigicant number. Now do the kill death ration thing with the true number of losses listed an noone seems to share my lack of killmail ***ing with the fact the listed kills only represent a tiny fraction of how many kills I actually have. So go back you your merc corp and toss about some newbs in barges or sit at a pos and fap to furry pron as a lazy corp hires you out to do the boring crappy stuff noone else will do. Have fun with that career choice mate. Originally by:** Zeba What laughter? Like anything even too much laughter can be bad for you and I think that I and the vast silent majority if the nearly 10,000 views are any indication that it has been given out in overdoase quantitys here. Lurkers support me in email? Wat? email? Wat? Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.15 08:08:00 - [12] heh got a live one here I see. Loosing focus of the screen yet? Fingers starting to cramp? Is that dratted vein starting to pulse out again? Originally by: Fifinella Originally by: Zeba a suprisingly determined foe chipped away at thier resolve in Hedion. Then you could have kept the recruit op open and not had to have ditched the 'contract' when they had no moar fun and refused to go. Ditched a contract? Ditching a contract is something mercs try to avoid, it's not good for business. You thought we cancelled a contract on your account? Didn't happen. Again, so you say but as yet in this entire thread have you given us any proof of your words past the same ole reporters plea of: I can't give out my sources its against the reporter ethics!! You will just have to take my word that Mrs Name Withheld saw a pink cow on the tv instead of the president during his address to the nation as she had a very convincing story! We believe you.. Originally by: FiFi Originally by: Zeba Now as far as my pvp prowness just look up Tyrantus killmails Where? All I could find was a handful of kills on Battleclinic and another handful on the Amarr Militia killboard. Does Viziam have a killboard somewhere? Dunno as I don't normally post killmails if you had bothered to read the rest of the sentence you didn't quote. That was simply a bonafied to dispel any belief in that silly 300 thingy you snaked into the thread. Like I said the listed kills are but a small fraction of the total so sorry mate I'm not one of the mercenary potters with a leather thong and stabby stick. Originally by: FiFi Originally by: Zeba Wat? email? Wat? It's from the Olden Days, when in newsgroups the silent majority was always assumed to be on the side of whoever decided they're on the side of. Well in the newen days when threads get this many views with just a couple of people exchanging opinions it means that they are enjoying the hell out of it for some reason. I'm sure we all have our ideas about what it is but I'm fairly certain after much evemails and ingame chat about this thread its not quite what you are thinking. Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.15 08:14:00 - [13] Yes indeed. The truth is self evident to me. Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.19 18:07:00 - [14] Someone who easily broke your 'blockade' with nothing more than simple determination along with all the other players doing the same thing that I didn't mention? I love how this thread steadily went from "We Deny ALL mining operations in Hedion" to "Oh your op doesn't count as it didn't reach optimum yield for yor skill level" to "Well unless you are in an easily bumped or suicidable hulk you don't count as a miner.. Heh, yeah that it, thats the ticket, only Hulks yeah.." after you couldn't stop the normal newb and not so newb miners from mining. So why did you feel it important to dig up this thread? Worried about your rep much and felt the need to bring an 'official' remark to it? Please God Bless me with even moar oppourtunities to make you guys look stupid. Keep on Bumpin' Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.

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