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Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
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Posted - 2012.05.09 13:52:00 -
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Hey guys, I currently intend to use te following fitting for L4s. What bothers me is the slow movement speed, with just above 110m/s. What midslot might be dispensable for an AB, if any at all?
[Maelstrom, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Invulnerability Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Explosion Dampening Field II Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.05.09 13:57:00 -
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use 800s instead of arty imo, then you can use tracking enhancers instead of PDUs and scratch the tracking computer for an AB. if you want to stick to arties, i would probably miss the boost amplifier least, provided you can stay at range. |

Cap James Tkirk
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.05.09 14:00:00 -
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drop the arties and go 800mm autos drop the PDS and go tracking in the lows that will allow you to pop frigs in a volley or two,
drop the invul anda specific hardner the yspefici hardners sue less cap and will provide a better EHP against the specfic rat types
drop the LSB for a XLSB you should pulse this mod as u need health
if you want more speed drop the mid tracking enhancer for a AB but with the AUTOS u should be able to hit rats at 60ish km with t1 guns
rigs look fine for cap
just my 2 isks |

Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
3
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Posted - 2012.05.09 14:18:00 -
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the speed is mostly to travel between gates(world collide ect.), staying at range might take me even further away from them. The invul is superior to another expl hardener against angels, for which these hardeners were choosen.
the arty fitting has a tracking of 0.017, the 800 ac would have 0.068. The sustained tank would be higher on the arty as well. |

Aesheera
Malum Crusis
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Posted - 2012.05.09 15:05:00 -
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Mather Odile wrote: the arty fitting has a tracking of 0.017, the 800 ac would have 0.068. The sustained tank would be higher on the arty as well.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with this statement.
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Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
3
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Posted - 2012.05.09 15:07:00 -
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that was bad spelling on my side then. It was more a question as to how much worse the artys tracking is, compared to the acs. |

Dimitryy
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
44
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Posted - 2012.05.09 15:49:00 -
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This is how you speed up a Maelstrom.
[Maelstrom, THE SPEED YOU NEED] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I Large Auxiliary Thrusters I Large Auxiliary Thrusters I |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1580
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Posted - 2012.05.09 15:57:00 -
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Mather Odile wrote:The invul is superior to another expl hardener against angels, for which these hardeners were choosen.
While this is true, the Kin hardener is a mistake for Angels. I've played around a lot and found Invul, Exp, Invul to be the best hardeners for Angels.
I'll also echo what others have said, drop the arty for ACs, drop the PDUs for TEs, drop the LSB for an XLSB, and (if you feel you must) drop the SBA (or maybe TE if you want lots of tank) for an AB. |

Otrebla Utrigas
Space Bastards
12
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:07:00 -
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Change LSB for XLSB, get rid of the boost amp. Fit an aft.
Anyway, the best thing you can do is just set course to the gate as soon as you get into the room while shooting stuff. By the time you have finished you will be near the gate at standard speed. |

Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2012.05.09 16:25:00 -
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For the OP, unfortunately, an effective Mael is a slow Mael. AKA "The Brick."
Keep at it though as it is a very effective PVE BS. And eventually switch to a (very fast) Mach. |

Boomhaur
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:10:00 -
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I would listen to the others and fit it with the AB, I fly a Nighthawk with I consider slow and a AB does wonders in making missions all that much less painful. In fact a AB on any ship makes missions a lot more barable, I just wished i learned that in the begining it would have saved me a lot of time and headaches. |

FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
84
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:32:00 -
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I am very partial to this setup. Yes, it has Tech II rigs on it. Why? I don't know. It would work with T1 CCC rigs. It was on contracts for about 300m so I bought it. I found it very effective in L4 missions. It has enough cap to work for L4 missions. With my skills and implants I get 801 turret DPS. It tanks 682 against Angels. You can also downgrade to T2 Gyrostabilizers if you want to save some more ISK:
[Maelstrom, Maelstrom copy 1] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Explosion Dampening Field II Invulnerability Field II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Bouncer II x3 Warrior II x5
To me, an Afterburner is absolutely essential for a good L4 mission battleship. You waste so much time if you don't fit one. |

Nalha Saldana
Aliastra Gallente Federation
266
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:47:00 -
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My personal favorite Mael fit, cap stable with shield booster or AB running. In most missions you can run both for the entire sites.
[Maelstrom, L4s Mercs] Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II
Large Shield Booster II Cap Recharger II Thermic Dissipation Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II 100MN Afterburner II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6519
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:52:00 -
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Cut off the wingy bits and roll it sideways down a hill?
/ot. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.05.10 08:56:00 -
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Stir faster. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
113
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Posted - 2012.05.10 09:09:00 -
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Only way to speed up a maelstrom is to bump it.
Even with an AB it doesn't cross 300m/s
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Babar Baboli
Rifterlings
4
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Posted - 2012.05.10 09:49:00 -
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[Maelstrom, Arty Mael] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Domination 100MN Afterburner 'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
This is what I used for L4's. Adjust the hardeners by the mission rats. It eats everyhing.
I used the domination AB since it was relativly cheap and gives better speed for less cap than AB T2
ninjaedit: this fit crosses 300 m/s without all level 5 skills. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
113
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Posted - 2012.05.10 10:19:00 -
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Babar Baboli wrote:[Maelstrom, Arty Mael] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Domination 100MN Afterburner 'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
This is what I used for L4's. Adjust the hardeners by the mission rats. It eats everyhing.
I used the domination AB since it was relativly cheap and gives better speed for less cap than AB T2
ninjaedit: this fit crosses 300 m/s without all level 5 skills.
Also the first decent fit I've seen in this thread.
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Malles Istveruckt
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.05.10 10:51:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Babar Baboli wrote:[Maelstrom, Arty Mael] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Domination 100MN Afterburner 'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
This is what I used for L4's. Adjust the hardeners by the mission rats. It eats everyhing.
I used the domination AB since it was relativly cheap and gives better speed for less cap than AB T2
ninjaedit: this fit crosses 300 m/s without all level 5 skills. Also the first decent fit I've seen in this thread.
QFT
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Tenga Halaris
Exit Strategies Mordus Angels
25
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Posted - 2012.05.10 11:01:00 -
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[Maelstrom, Active Booster] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I Large Projectile Burst Aerator II [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
1020 dps including drones 990 burst tank 320 m/s travel speed
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
216
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Posted - 2012.05.10 11:08:00 -
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Dimitryy wrote:This is how you speed up a Maelstrom.
[Maelstrom, THE SPEED YOU NEED] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I Large Auxiliary Thrusters I Large Auxiliary Thrusters I Didn't it used to be possible to use multiple prop mods at the same time (without stacking penalties)? I remember someone describing it as being an age of the 0.2 AU/s MWD Scorpions. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
114
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Posted - 2012.05.10 13:09:00 -
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Tenga Halaris wrote:[Maelstrom, Active Booster] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I Large Projectile Burst Aerator II [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
1020 dps including drones 990 burst tank 320 m/s travel speed
Arties:
[Maelstrom, Active Booster] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I Large Projectile Burst Aerator II [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
860 dps 550 tank omni o/
Both of those = buy a machariel and profit. |
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