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Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr ANY ****ING MOTHERSHIP THAT CAN STILL WARP OUT. WARP OUT. THE REST DIE PLEASE, DON'T UPDATE CLONES AND POD YOURSELF REPEATEDLY.
thanks for quoting me :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 11/05/2009 19:18:44
There's nothing we can do about this except whine internally at XT for loosing MS in such a stupid fashion. And making everyone who wears a RZR tag look like a ****ing idiot because we took on one corp who can't keep their MS in their pants. :)
This joke is on us, well played WN and TRI and I'll just hope we learn from this and don't send 75 Bill after 15 stupid bill next time. :(
Oh and I hope the loot sucked :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: LoveKebab // Fred0 - are u going to reimburse these caps ? they went down fighting! not @ belt i think
Live with the glory of having killed 5 MS and we'll live with the infamy of having lost 5. :) You'll not get me to comment on reimbursement policies though ;) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Haku Cabal Adj...where are you? 
I too would like an ADJ and Shadoo comment on this :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.12 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zeveron
Originally by: Colonel Xaven Good to see TRI having a morale boost, maybe you guys achieve something again...
atleast they try to achieve somthing on their own, not like your pathetic alliance with you gazilion pets and naps.
This thread was worth it. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition Hah,.. you might wanna check into your comment, NC been having more inner strife than any other alliance in the past month.
No we haven't. And besides the NC consists of several alliances. It's seldom been this peaceful actually. The only thing I can even remotely think of is some TCF renters who are booted but that's not even a NC issue, I'd assume that's where you come from. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.14 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rozanos
So to reduce it to two simple statements: - NC don't take risks - NC lack discipline/organisation/dedication
What risk is there in basing from NPC stations and hotdropping an enemy when you know they are staging from some other place? I assume afterall we're talking about Ingame risks here and playstyles.
1. TCF/RZR/RAWR have abandoned probably over 350bill monthly in moon income to go fight another war away from home. That's a risk no? 2. We've decided to fight a war in a region we really have no long term interest in, that's both a huge risk and a huge challenge no? This is the epitome of dedication and organisation today in EVE and so far we've proven far more resilitent than for example MAX was. 3. We've decided to carry the fight to the homes of the alliances that we currently perceive to be probably the best when it comes to territorial warfare. That's about as big as a challenge ever gets no?
you need to educate me abit on the risks TRI actually take in EVE currently. The rewards from your point of view are pretty easy to distinguish but the risks are abit harder to distinguish unless you count it as a major high risk adventure to beat up on pitchfork armies.
Also, regarding our lack of discipline, organisation etc. One day again the organisation you are part of and the organisation I'm part of will clash head on. Maybe this time will be different and I'm open for that outcome but you'd do well to remember that both times this happened before you folded by proxy and gave up your space before we even put our weight on you. Now we're not worldbeaters and there's probably someone more skillfull and with more stamina out there but so far TRI has not in any way managed to match us in a full on war. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: xVx dreadnaught
I mean, we're record breakers! how many other alliances killed 5 super caps in one sit?
Grats, it's true it's a major achievement. Just like we whacked Shrikes titan 2 times in 3 days and 3 times in two months or something like that. There's a ton of records out there, and you sure as hell hold one impressive one against RZR. :) Grats :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.14 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 14/05/2009 14:48:05
That's fine. I'll concede those points actually because they are quite true and I was bending the risk concept. I didn't think anyone sane would answer and thought only that tr0pa ****** would bother and then it would have passed fine. :)
Except in 3. We went down south way before the masterstroke of disbanding their alliance :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.14 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 14/05/2009 15:46:14
1. Regarding leaving our pets in charge of the north. - No we didn't because they are not. They have their own agendas. MH/GFED been upto all kinds of stuff. WI/INIT/ME/SPLR run off and do their stuff aswell. succesfully too.
2. We lost 25 caps yesterday. Since single battles against the odds seems to be all that EVE is about according to you I can assure you that we daily take bigger risks than you do. There's not alot of risk in running RR BS gangs to catch caps. You just as we focus on amarr and they excel for it and cost extremely little to loose, that's not high risk. From the reports up there you seem very marginally different than any other entity, when you're up against the odd you frequently say **** it and don't engage.
3. Wars change the participants. Consensus at the beginning of MAX seems to be that the GKC is the strongest single entity in EVE. I don't think many share that vision anymore. ;)
4. More about risk. Again you don't seem to very often actually say **** it. I'm not saying youre bad but running RR BS gangs against pitchfork enemies is rather easily done. Again, you do it very well so kudos to you there.
5. I've not said you'll disband. Your standpoint about having fun has been heard many times before, I have no issues with it against you currently, but it's not endgame eve. I think everyone agrees that the endgame is when you control everything including the stations and when war is not about fps and killratios. It's just abit hard to measure and compare alliances on a fun scale since this is all forum posturing and :words: I'm looking forward to competing against you in a war were true dedication matters and wars can be measured in terms of won or lost. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Deira Lenia Risks for the NC? Are you kidding me fred0? It would be only a day or 2 away before 1000+ people start kicking them out again.[/Quote]
I'm glad to hear our strategy is working so well that people don't even bother to attack us. To win wars before they are fought is good.
Quote: Its impossible to break any NC alliance out of their region, because your fighting impossible numbers. If a alliance starts breaking, then well. Backup from the rest of NC arrives.
In all seriousness, remove the pets from your space and offline the jammers. Then you can remake your post about leaving your home space at risk.
If the MAX campain couldnt break you, what will?
Something else perhaps, something that complements brute force with brains. I don't think we're impossible to break. It's just gonna take alot of dedication and work.
Quote: Personaly i spend my days in P3EN most of the time. We can grab the stragglers, but if we sit around long enough we are facing a 4:1 or bigger blob. It appears even roamers or random campers are not safe from the default tactic. I really hope ME and INIT come home again soon. Then they can start bridging in 8:1 again like a few weeks ago, or mabey we get visited by one of MM's titans in M-O again :)
Well this is your problem. You play EVE stuck in your perceptions, which in this instance becomes your prison. 4:1 against you could be 8 pilots. It's a numbers discussion which turns into a circular argument.
My experience is that you'd be best off to simply ignore numbers and fight as best you can. If you do it relentlessly, keep organisation 24/7 then you will get your breaks and the recognition. NYNC is living proof that all you need is a couple of alts and never say die dedication (an aluminum tycoon to fund you might also help) and you can hold vast amounts of wealth in EVE. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Prez21 We jump into more gate camps outnumbered than nearly anyother alliance ingame.
When we have spare time we do the exact same thing in providence against CVA. It's RR BS, Amarr focused. It's a design for prolonged engagements against the odds. With a clued up FC where you can stagger the engagments against not that coordinated enemies it's endless fun. BUT IT'S NOT endgame EVE. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Prez21 I never said it was endgame, if you want to discuss endgame stuff why dont you address the first part of my post instead of cutting half of it out? the part you have quoted was me replying to you about us not engaging in battles vs unfair odds which simplyisnt true, you say you do that in provi but youve never done it against tri, why is that?
We have no organisation or FC's up north. Your earlier incarnations I'm sure we have. Now you can explain why you always disbanded before the real fight between TRI+allies and NC? --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: michael weels
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Prez21 We jump into more gate camps outnumbered than nearly anyother alliance ingame.
When we have spare time we do the exact same thing in providence against CVA. It's RR BS, Amarr focused. It's a design for prolonged engagements against the odds. With a clued up FC where you can stagger the engagments against not that coordinated enemies it's endless fun. BUT IT'S NOT endgame EVE.
I always wondered Fred0, how NC can be content with as many blue's as you guys have, I mean, a friend of mine is in TCF; and he told me that you had so many blue that some people would even AP freighters through 0.0, and not have to worry much, granted I can see how that's useful, but then again, your dedicated PVP wings all across the NC spectrum must be bored as hell with being unable to find anything but stray pirates to fight around your home regions?
Imho, NC should be paying Tri for the entertainment and asskicking we deliver to your front door, not to mention, your pilots are bound to learn from mistakes against us, which means we should get a consultancy fee too =)
Whoever ap's a freighter in 0.0 should be kicked from whatever alliance he is in and that's just overstating our blue list. I'll admit our bluelist is long, because it is. There are several reasons to this however.
RZR and RAWR when we blued eachother none of us owned any space and we had 500 pilots each. Same with our other NC friends, we've built this success together and we've prospered together, if we'd been bad this wouldn't have been the end result but now we caught a few lucky breaks and the dice rolled our way.
We do however cut blues and after this war we'll reset the whole goon sphere and PL and probably find out what we want to do with the NC long term if it's not fun anymore. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Deira Lenia If your going to be proud over the fact you've nuked EXE and FI out of their space, then well.. be happy you were capable of killing a pet.
Hey, FI counterspammed a JB system today so don't bash them.
And we're going home to the North according to ET and Molle We're not but those deluded morons say anything I guess. We probably should ask more NC allies to come down south just to **** with their minds :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 17:19:00 -
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I'm sure we are average in your eyes. I'm fine with that. We fail all the time and we did so spectacularly against you 3 days ago. :)
Then again we have our strong sides too we've been allround/good enough to hold a region for several years. Something not many has achieved. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr That's easy to say, because we ain't going anywhere and thus this will never be over.
Well it can always be argued I guess but no not really. We'll keep grinding and when all our blobs are small enough we can leave with good conscience since it'll take you ages if you have to fight months for every single station system. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.14 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void Yawn dude, I remember holding those regions for several years with one corp.
FE right?  --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: O Thief He has stated some facts we all know to be true, where is the troll?
Point out the facts please. It's two questions followed by a betting proposal and the only thing he is even trying to make sound factual is that TRI would beat any NC alliance one on one, which is blatantly only biased opinion. Or we could start throwing lol facts at eachother all day long :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shr1kes did you located your balls allready?
You have the least balls of everyone for not even daring to go into a forum war with your main. Of all the EVE characters currently in existance, and there is many of those, it's a FACT that everyone has bigger balls than the ones who don't even stand up and post with their main. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 16:19:00 -
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Oh and btw. TRI and WN gets EVE Propaganda #18. Grats you homos :D --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.16 19:41:00 -
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Easy to spout **** behind a noname corp but especially rich considering how uncerimoniously we (RAWR+RZR) kicked your ass long and hard when you assaulted tribute with MAX. You're free to try again when you grow enough balls to rejoin EXE. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.16 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened I don't think you get it, We are making you come back north, which will have a major effect down south. Otherwise we are going to take all your R64 Moons leaving you with Zero Income. So at somepoint either, RZR,TCF or MM will need to return North to deal with us. Everyone in Triumvirate knows we wont hold onto them Moons once the whole NC comes back but if you do come back Goons are done & in a few months you would have BOB & AAA alone with Triumvirate MK900 or whatever :P
That's cool mate. You're free to choose whatever side you want. Just don't play ignorant ever again :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.16 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 16/05/2009 21:04:24
Originally by: skularika let me tell you something m8: i was in RZR and i fought for tribute,tenal and all the space that you have now.The point is that the lack of discipline and pvp made me go away.
Well no, you was kicked from RZR for carebearing during CTA, refusing to join gangs aswell as being part of a suspicious romanian activities you and your friends claimed were standard. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.16 21:28:00 -
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That's wrong. You, CMD Icecube and Asgard Commander where all very unreliable, unwilling. when we started rejecting you guys you instead went to OE. Looking back on your topics in our recruitment forums it's pretty unanimous to not let you back in. Gulnar even called you constant non contributing ISK farmers ;) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.16 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: skularika
for your information i was first on kills for a long time in MH you liar
dont try to tourn this arround
you are nothing that a big liar
as a corp leader you need to show some intelligence and honesty and not to lie on this forums like that knowing that everyone in eve read them
i dont get this worthless lie
Hrhr. I won't. Here's some fun stuff for you to read about yourself from our recruitment forums :
****ah: He was asked point blank several times about sitting in station during Thrasher OP. He said nothing tho (that I can recall) so he had probably already made this decision.
Fred0 (after a friendly fire incident): Oh and wtf. I think there's more than one CEI though very surprised to see those 4 on a killmail. We've been threatening to kick them unless they get their act together and finally when they show up on a mail... hahah..
Asmodea Lorion: Is Gicaduru part of the skularika/cmd neo/cmd icecube crew? These guys seriously have to go.
Asgard Command > is there a reason for not accepting me again? Fred0 > inactivity.
Gulnar: Oh and can those romanians do anything but continously ISK farm?! --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.16 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: skularika PLS STOP YOU EMBARRAS YOURSELF
Ok. I'll stop. Thanks for the concern :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.18 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ghengis Khan we'll find out who are the wannb's pretty soon.
I hear you jumped out. I thought all you wanted was fights against the odds... --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
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Posted - 2009.05.18 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wasp O'Ryan
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Wasp O'Ryan Morsus Mihi thinking they're better than someone?
You doing this "Brosef" thing wrong Viper, just saying.
Just because they're blue doesn't mean they don't suck.
Well they deployed twice as many people as the second biggest alliance in that fight and they lost a whole lot less than some. So if anyone showed any skill it's them  --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
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