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Commodore Bill	Posted - 2009.05.11 21:49:00 - [1] Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a ****ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.05.11 22:12:00 - [2] There is no POS problem. Take up your issues with your therapist. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.05.11 22:20:00 - [3] Originally by: Commodore Bill Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a **ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong. So you are saying that it is wrong for helpless players to not just fall over and die because they found a way to beat your teeth out of your skull and fed them to your dog? Originally by:** CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.05.11 22:40:00 - [4] Thanks for the thread. I like the OP's suffering and bitterness, and how it escalates into his mental breakdown. An exemplary job by the carebears and good work by CCP. Congratulations everyone! -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.
Lear Hepburn Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent	Posted - 2009.05.11 22:44:00 - [5] Edited by: Lear Hepburn on 11/05/2009 22:44:27 Originally by: Commodore Bill Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a ****ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong. Frustration
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.11 22:48:00 - [6] Killing Deathstar with battleships is actually possible... U just need dozens of battleships and maybe logistics (Guardians)... Pos Gunner can't kill all the Battleships... Blob still works... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
TedJanitor	Posted - 2009.05.11 22:48:00 - [7] Deal with it, I don't think it's a problem really. This game is for both the violent and the peaceful - for all you know that brand new ship you just bought somewhere down the line came from them. sadly, we do rely on the carebears for our ships and T2
Martineski	Posted - 2009.05.11 23:26:00 - [8] its called highsec space for a reason, their base is HIGH SECURITY. so what, they built it, let them keep it, if they didn't hurt you leave them alone, if it is not yours do not break it, and last but not least DO NOT POKE THE BEARS. Just cause you can't knock down someone elses castle doesn't mean it should not be there. Use the Sniper BS if you can't get close enough. and if you are in to POS bashing go back to lowsec where you can do it and stop whining. Capital ships were already moved out of Highsec so let the carebears have the Last large thing available in highsec.
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.11 23:34:00 - [9] Edited by: Trimutius III on 11/05/2009 23:36:08 Yes yes... Does this POSes disturb u somehow? Why did u need to destoy them? People worked a lot to make a good faction standing and then anchored a POS and they defend it well. U know gathering a hundred BS isn't hard if u really want to destroy it... And if u can't gather that many BS, then calm, u are too weak, why should u bother. Oh, u don't want to lose any ISK while killing that DeathStar? U want to much... It's just impossible... Why should carebear lose their ISK and u don't? U think u are better then them? NO. All people are same and if u want to get that carebears somewhy, pay for it, nothing is free in this world... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Abuta Beki	Posted - 2009.05.12 00:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Commodore Bill Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You have some serious issues, man. So... Would you now care to elaborate WHY this should be like you'd drool it to be?
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.12 00:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Abuta Beki Originally by: Commodore Bill Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You have some serious issues, man. So... Would you now care to elaborate WHY this should be like you'd drool it to be? I think he is just jealous... And don't want too understand that this carebears are moving the world too... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
ThaDollaGenerale The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.12 00:54:00 - [12] Most delicious tears ever.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.05.12 02:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Whitehound Thanks for the thread. I like the OP's suffering and bitterness, and how it escalates into his mental breakdown. An exemplary job by the carebears and good work by CCP. Congratulations everyone! this. I fuel my pos with pirate tears ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Fille Balle Dissolution Of Eternity Ethikos Trade Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.12 08:19:00 - [14] Originally by: Commodore Bill Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a ****ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong. Ok, but only if you require an onlined pos in order to declare war, and you must destroy your targets pos or pay a fine of 1 billion for public disorder. Sounds like a fair compromise to me. If not, then NO!
Pterodactyl	Posted - 2009.05.12 09:39:00 - [15] If people are willing to spend billions on setting up a high sec POS, let them. If you are unable to remove a POS because they have been willing to spend the time and money to set it up, it should be difficult to remove.
Leana Darkrider Creatio -ex- nihilo	Posted - 2009.05.12 09:50:00 - [16] Bad Idea imho. If these pos's are gone from high sec, expect prices for T1 and T2 modules going sky high. Alot research (ME & PE) and invention are done at these pos's, so if you want to remove them from high sec it's quite logical prices will increase.
BlackDragon00981	Posted - 2009.05.12 10:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Commodore Bill Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a ****ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong. cry much?
Lifelongnoob Caldari Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.05.12 12:10:00 - [18] why are u hunting down carebear pos's in high sec anyways? get out into low / null sec and fight like a man yarr
Luskaie Gallente defiant.	Posted - 2009.05.12 14:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Trimutius III Killing Deathstar with battleships is actually possible... U just need dozens of battleships and maybe logistics (Guardians)... Pos Gunner can't kill all the Battleships... Blob still works... Pretty much says it..
Lucas Avidius Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.05.12 15:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Commodore Bill Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a ****ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong. Cry harder. Just because a POS is setup properly in high sec does not mean it's unbeatable. Bring a big fleet, with all ships fit properly, and have a competent commander heading said fleet. That POS will crumble no matter how it's fit. Then again, it's unlikely that you can find enough people like yourself to form a fleet big enough to hurt the carebears you want hurt, since they probably aren't hurting anyone and you are more likely just a bitter griefer who found out that carebears can indeed fight back when they want to. Just say no to "I win" buttons in eve. The POS owner had to work their tails off to put the thing up. You are obligated to work just as hard if you want the thing taken down.
Herzog Wolfhammer	Posted - 2009.05.12 19:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Lucas Avidius Originally by: Commodore Bill Simple fixes to POS problem: No large towers in hisec. No faction towers in hisec. No faction anything on pos in hisec. No ewar on POS in hisec. Only small guns on POS in hisec. No POS gunners in hisec. No onlining/offlining/anchoring/unanchoring during a wardec or 24 hour before wardec is active. Carebears should get hurt. The richer they are the more they should hurt. You dec them and if they don't fight you in ships they should lose their POS, labs, all the BPOs. It's stupid that a bunch of industrial carebears can just spend a ****ton of isk and build themselves a death star in hisec, and have gunners just sit inside the shield and blow up everything that comes near. They don't even have to dock to log off, they can just stay at the damned POS, even use cloaked ships to refuel. You never know where those bastards are if they're not inside theyre POS and you can't force them to fight. That's just wrong. Cry harder. Just because a POS is setup properly in high sec does not mean it's unbeatable. Bring a big fleet, with all ships fit properly, and have a competent commander heading said fleet. That POS will crumble no matter how it's fit. Then again, it's unlikely that you can find enough people like yourself to form a fleet big enough to hurt the carebears you want hurt, since they probably aren't hurting anyone and you are more likely just a bitter griefer who found out that carebears can indeed fight back when they want to. Just say no to "I win" buttons in eve. The POS owner had to work their tails off to put the thing up. You are obligated to work just as hard if you want the thing taken down. That's the wondefull concept of a citizen soldier. People will not engage in battles they don't have a value for winning, or losing at. No kings or presidents giving orders to mindless goons to fight stupid expensinve wars. I really hope the OP is not a politician.
Jason Travers Space 1999	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:37:00 - [22] The deathstars run off the tears of the whiners like the OP that wants nothing more than a shooting gallery like at the fair when his mommy and daddy take him. you want to shoot other people go into low sec where they will shoot back, but having a challange is too much I guess. Mommy that mean ole bear just dukied in my sandbox. :(
ShadowDraqon The Quantum Company	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Commodore Bill The richer they are the more they should hurt. Anti-capitalist much? ~ MED-SEC ~ AND The Blatantly Obvious
Parmala Udoni	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:03:00 - [24] why not just petition CCP to ban all carebears and give all their stuff to you? whiney phuquetard
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:11:00 - [25] Stop bumping this stupid topic... Everybody understand that whiner lose... Trolling isn't needed at all... If u give him another dig nothing will change. LOL. ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
captain skinback	Posted - 2009.05.13 00:34:00 - [26] i wonder what ship op lost to the deathstar pos. i bet it was something expensive.
Krennel Darius Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:09:00 - [27] I laugh at the idea of high-sec pos warfare. And didn't you mommy ever tell you that you shouldn't warp to a moon without scanning it first? _________________________________________________ If at first you don't succeed, you're not Chuck Norris
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:23:00 - [28] Edited by: Trimutius III on 13/05/2009 01:23:32 Originally by: Krennel Darius I laugh at the idea of high-sec pos warfare. And didn't you mommy ever tell you that you shouldn't warp to a moon without scanning it first? POS in highsec attacks only someone who have aggro or offwar with POS-owners... So warping to moon in highsecs is safe unless u have Offwar or have an aggro to some corp (or global aggro, though global aggro usually leads to getting ur ship popped by concord)... P.S. Bump P.P.S. Stop Bumping this topic. P.P.P.S. LOL ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Teth Soress Minmatar The Hunt Club	Posted - 2009.05.13 04:14:00 - [29] You're just mad that those carebears have killer rainbows on their bellies, rainbows that spell DOOOOOOMMMMMM for their enemies. (That's you.) I love it when people complain that they got their ass kicked and think CCP should change things so that they'll stop taking beatdowns. Go Carealot deathstars!
Thorson Wiles Minmatar M3 Co-Op	Posted - 2009.05.15 02:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Lear Hepburn Frustration Hey, I've got a pair of those scissors!

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