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DrunkMiner
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.12 05:37:00 -
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Don't care about race, weapon system, cupholder amount or if the captins seat has lumber support... just want raw fits and numbers all i ask is it works well in caldari and amarr space and is pine scented.
I would assume amarr are best for this but am open to anything so feel free to both amaze and amuse me!
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2009.05.12 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: 4 LOM on 12/05/2009 05:55:08
[Golem, Dual paint]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Target Painter II
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Target Painter II
Photon Scattering Field II
Domination 100MN Afterburner
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Hobgoblin II x5
Thats my current fitting with a crystal set (all high except omega) and +5% range implants.
She does 1126 dps before drones with a 7sec rate of fire... kills battleships all kinds in 1-3 volleys, crusisers in 1-3 volleys, battlecruisers in 1 volley, frigs in 1-3 volleys (but drones do the job there).
I need to upgrade it to pwnage but have not yet (dont have cap issues so has not been pressing matter). The tank is very light, but well kill or be killed.
Againts sanshes rats she preforms extreamly well, well against any rats (tnak is preferable for therm/ken but meh its not an issue. for therm/ken fit a thermal hardener for everything else run the em hardener).
This is not a fitting you should try unless you know what you are doing its set to squeeze every last second out of missioning, the next upgrade would be a ptih b-type medium booster to replace the 2x small's this would allow for a web or a 3rd painter (oh my).
Again dont try this tank unless you are confident in your abilities, really the damage is the tank here. What i do is afterburner towards targets i have not use javalin torpedoes in months all faction torps for the win.
Edit:
Clone i run and recomend with this is
All atributes (crystal)
low or high grade omega
ZML1000
Squire CC8
ZMS1000
ZMM1000
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of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner. 
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.12 06:14:00 -
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I use a nightmare with tach's, it plough's through missions in about 10/15 minutes per lvl 4, I would say thats pretty efficient
800 gun dps @ 33+24 falloff with navy multi
460 gun dps @ 120+24 falloff with aurora
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Domination 100MN Afterburner
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
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Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.05.12 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 12/05/2009 06:23:35
Nevy megat can run missions very fast if you got maxed gunnery skills, in some missions it is even outperforming navy raven because of instapoping support ships (which makes up for a bit slower bs killing). You will also not have to swap hardeners between missions, omni is sufficent most of the time.
[Megathron Navy Issue, lvl4]
Amarr Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Amarr Navy Armor Kinetic Hardener
Amarr Navy Armor Explosive Hardener
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer
Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Gallente Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
Shadow Serpentis 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L
[empty high slot]
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tracking on this ***** is just <3
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JeremyCricket
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Posted - 2009.05.12 07:56:00 -
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So the first three answers to the OPs request for an isk-efficient (from which i read cheap) lvl 4 mission runner are a golem, a nightmare and a navy mega?
I would say an sprd drake is the cheapest way to solo level 4s, although it will take a long time.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.05.12 08:12:00 -
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I've heard that 350mm sentry-Domi is pretty effective with a standard T2 fit.
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Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.05.12 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: JeremyCricket
So the first three answers to the OPs request for an isk-efficient (from which i read cheap) lvl 4 mission runner are a golem, a nightmare and a navy mega?
I would say an sprd drake is the cheapest way to solo level 4s, although it will take a long time.
He wanted isk-efficent, not cheap (this are not the same words).
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.05.12 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner
...the captins seat has lumber support...
...is pine scented.
the 1st would take care of the second.
Originally by: Signature
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.05.12 08:24:00 -
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If you are on tight budget but still care about performance I would suggesting going for standard Raven. Preferably not one of those permatanking ones. Can upgrade to CNR when you can afford it.
If you stick mostly in Amarr space amarr tier 3 should be okish also, altho it can cost you somewhat more than going for standard raven and you would be using faction ammo anyway - if you care about performance - as it's just so mutch better than t1 to be 'worth it'. Or pulse Apoc - have not tried that one myself so dunno.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.05.12 09:06:00 -
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Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 12/05/2009 09:06:41
T2 fitted raven, namely:
6x cruise launcher T2
2x empty highslots/tractors (if CPU allows)
1x X-large shield booster T2
2x shield boost amp T2
2x invuln field T2
1x cap recharger
4x cap flux coil T2
1x ballistic control system
3x CCC rig
With all lvl5 skills this will be:
cap stable at 45%
320 DPS (with regular T1 missiles)
604 SDE (omni tank)
Tactic:
This setup isn't fast, and it doesn't tank 'very well' but it can handle all lvl4's if you aggro properly.
Note that you HAVE TO align away from rats at warpin and keep moving away from rats constantly to maintain minimum incoming dps.
It won't kill fast... but it will work.
This is the cheapest viable LVL4 ship I can come up with, and it worked fine for me till I switched over to CNR with juicy faction mods.
Hope this helps.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.12 09:28:00 -
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Define "isk-efficient"…
Fast cash? Golem.
Cheap cash? Domi.
Non-consumable cash? Anything with lazors or drones.
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Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.05.12 09:38:00 -
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O.K. my "fast cash" Solo-Setup:
[Golem, Gul's]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Expanded Cargohold II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
1 Huge Secure in the Cargo for the loot and salvage.
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DrunkMiner
Caldari
Public Venture Enterprises
Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:04:00 -
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by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
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Khornne
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
Ever compared costs of crystals and torps?
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
Ah i thought you meant fastest isk generation.
If you want most bang for your isk, domi.... yep domi, dont have a fitting on hand but they are not hard to fit.
Originally by: Twilight Moon
of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:48:00 -
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Quote:
Most Isk Efficient Level 4 Runner?
Sebastian Coe.
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
I don't know the cost of faction/T2 crystals right off hand, but I know that they're not exactly cheap. Most efficient ISK-wise would be really ammo-free ships so either a Domi (as long as you're careful and don't lose drones) or a laser boat using basic T1 crystals. Most efficient in terms of effort involved would be a perma-tanked Domi: aggro the whole room, soak up damage unleash drones, go eat a sammich, loot, profit.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.05.12 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Non-consumable cash? Anything with lazors or drones.
So Lasers + Drones is the best?
I *knew* my concept of a laser shield domi is epic.
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.12 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
So you're completely ignoring the rate at which you'd earn ISK when looking at ISK-efficiency? Golems may use up more consumables (even lazor lenses go bad after a while...), but you also make money faster so it makes up for the apparent difference in consumables.
The other issue is what faction will you mission against? If you're missioning in Caldari space, any beam-based ships will have a hard time.
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Jotobar
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Posted - 2009.05.12 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
So you're completely ignoring the rate at which you'd earn ISK when looking at ISK-efficiency? Golems may use up more consumables (even lazor lenses go bad after a while...), but you also make money faster so it makes up for the apparent difference in consumables.
The other issue is what faction will you mission against? If you're missioning in Caldari space, any beam-based ships will have a hard time.
what he said but ruder.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.05.12 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Mendolus on 12/05/2009 16:41:15
Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
I don't know the cost of faction/T2 crystals right off hand, but I know that they're not exactly cheap. Most efficient ISK-wise would be really ammo-free ships so either a Domi (as long as you're careful and don't lose drones) or a laser boat using basic T1 crystals. Most efficient in terms of effort involved would be a perma-tanked Domi: aggro the whole room, soak up damage unleash drones, go eat a sammich, loot, profit.
Amarr Navy Multifrequency Ls cost about 1 mil or so each on the Domain market. I went down the Amarr tree a few weeks ago on my alt for ratting ammo-less and I have accumulated some 700-800mil profits on 7mil worth of crystals that have yet to pop on me.
On the other hand, I also dual box with a Drake and Salvacane solo, purchased 14mil worth (50k or so) of Scourge Fury, and am still at 25k missiles remaining after having drummed up some 300-400mil on those 25k missiles. Which means 7mil worth of missiles earned me 300-400mil.
How much one reads into that is at their discretion obviously, but it certainly seems, that for repetitive farming at least, ammo-less (via lasers) is tops, in Sansha space at least.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.12 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
laser shield domi
*SLAP*
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.05.12 17:26:00 -
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Tach Paladin. I've heard really fantastic things about it. Gneez, how does the Pally compare to your Nightmare in your experience?
-Lian
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.05.12 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner
by isk efficient i mean running costs versus damage etc, i would say golems are less efficient due to ammo usage, lasers would be more efficient due to only needing to replace a crystal for god knows how many shots
I guess you just dont know anything about making money in EVE.
Anything using T1 ammo is so cheap to run that costs are simply not an issue. With T1 ammo all that matters is how fast you finish the missions.
Lets say your average mission is making you 15 mill in loot, salvage and bounties.
It doesnt really matter if you spend 400k or 750k on ammo.
It does matter if if you can run the missions 30% faster - because at the end of a play session thats 30% more profit.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Rahjadan Shardur
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.12 18:51:00 -
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hardeners mission specific
[Paladin, PvE Tach]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Ammatar Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
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