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DeadlyStormZ KVK Refugee camp Apocalypse Now. 0	Posted - 2012.05.10 07:38:00 - [1] - Quote I currently lived in null sec but I found that the AFK campers are really annoying. Most of the time, I sit in the station and wait, and it is all of my day. Can CCP do something about it or at least they can say something like "We are looking into it"? Maybe making the cloak device need fuel to cloak? I joined the game for 6 months only so I am not sure if I am the only one who feels that way. I only have a couple of hours and i see a red camping our system and adjacent system 24/7 everyday. I can't even watchikng TV in my quarters! :(
Darth Gustav Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 652	Posted - 2012.05.10 07:52:00 - [2] - Quote DeadlyStormZ wrote: I currently lived in null sec but I found that the AFK campers are really annoying. Most of the time, I sit in the station and wait, and it is all of my day. Can CCP do something about it or at least they can say something like "We are looking into it"? Maybe making the cloak device need fuel to cloak? I joined the game for 6 months only so I am not sure if I am the only one who feels that way. I only have a couple of hours and i see a red camping our system and adjacent system 24/7 everyday. I can't even watch TV in my quarters! :( OMG not a red cloaky! He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Alyssa Yotosala School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 94	Posted - 2012.05.10 07:52:00 - [3] - Quote Wait...let me get this straight, im having real trouble with this... So what you are saying, is that CCP should break a perfectly good game mechanic because you are too scared to undock because somebody is in the system? What the **** is WRONG with you? Seriously dude, this is not the game for you. Contract all your assets to this toon, and dont forget the contents of your wallet before you biomass yourself and cancel your accounts. .....geez, what is wrong with people these days?
TheSkeptic Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.05.10 07:55:00 - [4] - Quote Maybe they're not really cloaked? maybe you just can't see them because you have a bag on your head.
DeadlyStormZ KVK Refugee camp Apocalypse Now. 0	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:01:00 - [5] - Quote Perfectly good game mechanic? It is not.
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 135	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:17:00 - [6] - Quote Yes it is, you are a member of a corp/alliance with a home system, you have a lone hostile somewhere in system, yet instead of growing a pair and undocking with your friends you are spinning your ship Psychological warfare at it's finest There should be a rather awesome pic here
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4178	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:19:00 - [7] - Quote sounds like you're getting hazed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Klandi Consortium of stella Technologies 58	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:30:00 - [8] - Quote Andski wrote: sounds like you're getting hazed Urban dictionary quotes the word "haze" as a type of illegal drug. So I don't understand, the OP is being sold it? given it ? is smoking it??? Oh - just found another term - being bullied.... Now that surely is not right, because goons don't bully - DO THEY? I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc 164	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:32:00 - [9] - Quote Waaaa CCP, I can't play safely in my 0.0 system, that I don't want to deffend myself. Plus I seem to have this ability to tell that someone is AFK, yet I'm also aftaid of what they might do if I leave the comfort of my a station. I mean seriously, they might just sit there all AFK and cause a serious amount of 0 damage to my ship. I also dont want to bother protecting 'my system', or protecting myself from a potential attack. Laying a trap or grouping for safety in numbers seems like a lot of trouble that i simply can't be bothered with. Please CCP, break cloaks so I can be totally safe in zero security space. SOLUTION: Removed cloaked vessels from Local. Remove local from cloaked vessels to balance. Any AFK cloakers are no longer an issue, you cant see them and they cant bother you (because they are AFK). An active player cloaked, is now truly cloaked (as it should be), and they have to work if they want to gather intel but stay hidden. Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Marlona Sky Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies. 919	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:55:00 - [10] - Quote Typical null bear. Grow some stones will ya? Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Marlona Sky Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies. 919	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:56:00 - [11] - Quote Klandi wrote: Now that surely is not right, because goons don't bully - DO THEY? Only the digital kind. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6529	Posted - 2012.05.10 08:57:00 - [12] - Quote If he's AFK, he's not a threat. If he's not AFK, try shooting him. Problem solved! Alternatively: remove local as an intel tool GÇö problem solved! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Potrondal Morrison The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:06:00 - [13] - Quote Jint Hikaru wrote: SOLUTION: Removed cloaked vessels from Local. Remove local from cloaked vessels to balance. Any AFK cloakers are no longer an issue, you cant see them and they cant bother you (because they are AFK). An active player cloaked, is now truly cloaked (as it should be), and they have to work if they want to gather intel but stay hidden. +1 this, great idea. Covert ops are my favourate ships atm, great for zooming around null sec with mostly unhindered, yet i support this idea. EDIT : to the OP, WAAAAAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAHHHHHH WWWAAAAAAHHHHHH, heres the sound of the waaambulance coming, i suggest you get on it for treatment.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4179	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:08:00 - [14] - Quote Jint Hikaru wrote: SOLUTION: Removed cloaked vessels from Local. Remove local from cloaked vessels to balance. Any AFK cloakers are no longer an issue, you cant see them and they cant bother you (because they are AFK). An active player cloaked, is now truly cloaked (as it should be), and they have to work if they want to gather intel but stay hidden. ahahahahahahahahahahaha get lost "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc 165	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:13:00 - [15] - Quote Andski wrote: Jint Hikaru wrote: SOLUTION: Removed cloaked vessels from Local. Remove local from cloaked vessels to balance. Any AFK cloakers are no longer an issue, you cant see them and they cant bother you (because they are AFK). An active player cloaked, is now truly cloaked (as it should be), and they have to work if they want to gather intel but stay hidden. ahahahahahahahahahahaha get lost Please explain your issue with this? Convince me why its a bad idea and I will stop suggesting it. Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1232	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:14:00 - [16] - Quote Number of people who've been killed by a cloaked ship : 0
Francisco Bizzaro 95	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:17:00 - [17] - Quote Vile rat wrote: Number of people who've been killed by a cloaked ship : 0 And even fewer from an AFK cloaked ship.
Elara Zetoya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:23:00 - [18] - Quote I suppose he might undock and crash into it, or something. That'd be cause for concern. Buffing that ** out of your hull takes a whole damn day. "The problem with the gene pool is that there's no life guard.*" ~ Steve Wright*
Cassiel Valdis 2	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:47:00 - [19] - Quote Elara Zetoya wrote: I suppose he might undock and crash into it, or something. That'd be cause for concern. Buffing that ** out of your hull takes a whole damn day. This line made my night. Hikaru wrote:** SOLUTION: Removed cloaked vessels from Local. Remove local from cloaked vessels to balance. I agree cloaked ships should not show up on local, though honestly, I don't see why local should be taken from the cloaked ships. Sittin' around doing nothing but listening is 99% of the spy game, so why wouldn't a spy ship be good at it? All that said though, I support removing ALL ships from local until they broadcast, personally. I once killed a six-pack, just to watch it die.
Nate Hill Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:51:00 - [20] - Quote Carebears don't care.
Serge Bastana GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated 458	Posted - 2012.05.10 10:52:00 - [21] - Quote The moment you use the acronym AFK your argument kind of dies some what. Think about it. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...
Ender Black Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners 123	Posted - 2012.05.10 11:37:00 - [22] - Quote Still trying to wrap my head around the terms "AFK" and "camping" being used together in the same sentence. In a wormhole, I tried AFK camping the wh with my hauler once...didn't work as well as I tended (of course, I only thought I hit the cloak button.) The OP sounds like a nullbear snowflake but I can understand the issue of AFK cloaking in the system for hours and hours if not days on end. If local was removed, then there would be no mining, no plexing, no PvE content in null because it would be too easy to hot drop on a someone's ratting drake. PL will hotdrop a hurricane if their scouts find nothing else within range. The cyno advantage in null makes the argument that WH's don't have local irrelevant. Oh wait, your alliance in null still has the ability to establish cyno jammers in a system right? If you have those then you can't be killed by a cloaked scout...well, you can...being a terrible nullbear and all. The Pod Goo Podcast http://www.podgoo.com Pod Goo also publishes editorials, guest blogs, and guides for free. -áJust email [email protected] your material.
Meno Theaetetus Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 42	Posted - 2012.05.10 11:45:00 - [23] - Quote Good luck trying to get CCP to reduce risk in times of economic inflation, EVE should have more risk, not less.
Cassiel Valdis 4	Posted - 2012.05.10 11:58:00 - [24] - Quote Ender Black wrote: The OP sounds like a nullbear snowflake but I can understand the issue of AFK cloaking in the system for hours and hours if not days on end. If local was removed, then there would be no mining, no plexing, no PvE content in null because it would be too easy to hot drop on a someone's ratting drake. I can definitely see where your concern comes from - but on the other hand, honestly, I think that if you make nullsec more dangerous, people are still going to come out to play in it. There'd probably be a temporary drop; but in the end, people are going to go where the money is - the more dangerous it is, the more money you're going to be able to make bringing back spoils from it, so as the risk increases, so does the reward for those still willing to venture in. Of course, that means costs for EVERYTHING based on the spoils of nullsec go up, and I admit i don't know the economy well enough to say how far any specific change will tip the economic penalties for staying in high-sec away from "fair" and towards "crippling." And, of course, I get that not everyone is as enamoured with realism as I am - I accept that I will swallow a lot more than most people in the name of realism, even when it's making my own game a lot harder. I once killed a six-pack, just to watch it die.
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 422	Posted - 2012.05.10 12:02:00 - [25] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Klandi wrote: Now that surely is not right, because goons don't bully - DO THEY? Only the digital kind. Now why would that be?
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team 7	Posted - 2012.05.10 12:06:00 - [26] - Quote Ender Black wrote: Oh wait, your alliance in null still has the ability to establish cyno jammers in a system right? If you have those then you can't be killed by a cloaked scout...well, you can...being a terrible nullbear and all. Cyno jammers are not a tool to be spammed on every system. It not only prohibits the unfriendly cyno, it prohibits the friendly one too. Also I think that a covert cyno generator can be used for bridging within a cyno jammed system. Most probably I am wrong, cause although I do remember that this was a feature discussed when this module was being drawn on paper, I can't remember (or find evidence) for the life of me if it was implemented after all.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1201	Posted - 2012.05.10 12:06:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyStormZ wrote: I currently lived in null sec but I found that the AFK campers are really annoying. Most of the time, I sit in the station and wait, and it is all of my day. Can CCP do something about it or at least they can say something like "We are looking into it"? Maybe making the cloak device need fuel to cloak? I joined the game for 6 months only so I am not sure if I am the only one who feels that way. I only have a couple of hours and i see a red camping our system and adjacent system 24/7 everyday. I can't even watch TV in my quarters! :( Undock, baiit, kill it. Cloacky alts purpose is to disrupt your activities and make pressure over your weak mind by killing your haulers and every silly dude not willing to read intell chan. Working as intended, you have tools to counter this but you don't use them, that simple.
DeadlyStormZ KVK Refugee camp Apocalypse Now. 0	Posted - 2012.05.10 12:14:00 - [28] - Quote If there are hostile fleets flying around, this is risk. The point is, these players are cloaked. You can do nothing or you cannot do anything to find him. It is just like a tumor in your head, but your doctor told you that it is cloaked so he cannot find it. I rarely do CA or mining, but it is quite hard to answer to new corp members what they can do else if those cloaked campers present. I really want to invite some more people who newly joine the game to enter null sec, but it is just too difficult.
Cassiel Valdis 5	Posted - 2012.05.10 12:18:00 - [29] - Quote DeadlyStormZ wrote: If there are hostile fleets flying around, this is risk. Annnnd guess what the point of nullsec is? DeadlyStormZ wrote: I really want to invite some more people who newly joine the game to enter null sec, but it is just too difficult. If they're afraid of an AFK person, you shouldn't be inviting them to null. I once killed a six-pack, just to watch it die.
Anzsi Imperial Pharmacy 1	Posted - 2012.05.10 12:19:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyStormZ wrote: Maybe making the cloak device need fuel to cloak? :( That is actually good idea. CCP THAT IS good idea. This way ppl dont afk in cloak 24/7 and that way other have better change to probe and kill this cloakkers. They can hide but they cant hide forewer.

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