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Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.15 11:59:00 - [1] Afterburners are perfect now. They are used in a lot of roles. One ship you're all missing where the best setup includes an AB is the Taranis. MWD + AB Ranis is an amazing ship. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:16:00 - [2] Edited by: Intigo on 15/05/2009 21:27:54 By the way, Merdaneth - I'm kinda sold on the AB Crusader now, I'm afraid to admit. I still don't think it's a good idea for 0.0 since I fly fairly expensive clones, but good grief it's fun in lowsec. I went out to Egmar earlier today and had an amazing fight that pretty much sold me. What the KB doesn't show is the fact that I also had a Zealot well into armor that would have gone down if he had not gotten more backup in time. :/ The Zealot basically came in just as the Thorax was dying, unfortunately the Vaga came in just a little bit too early. Getting into range of the Zealot was a bit of an issue (that's where the hull damage is from), but once orbit was established it was a piece of cake. The Thorax had medium drones that I took care of pretty easily after the Ares had gone down. I love how with a frickin' T2 Afterburner I can still do ~1.7km/s with perfect skills + Zor's + one speed hardwiring and that's before overloading. Well over 2k when I overload. The fit I'm playing about in: 4x Dual Light Pulse's 1mn AB II J5B Scrambler SAR II Pseudo DCU (swapped out my IFFA since I was being skeptical about my chances :p) CPR II HS II Energy Collision dmg rig Aux Thrusters speed rig Incredibly fun to fly. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Anubis Xian People only 'need' mwds because mwds exist. And because ABs exist. So how are you liking Fuzzy Logic 5? It's not as fun as killing lol-afterburning cruisers and frigates in a Caracal. Want to fight my AB'ing Frigate hull in your MWD Caracal? :p ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:30:00 - [4] Originally by: Gypsio III Sure. Awesome! Mail me ingame about a time and place - we could even put some ISK on it if you want! ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.17 18:49:00 - [5] Edited by: Intigo on 17/05/2009 18:50:31 I wonder how much actual PvP experience Merin has, sure is a lot of "HURF BLURF" and broad general statements. Also, Gypsio - regardless of whether a frigate fits a MWD or an AB, with the dual-web Assault Caracals you fly no close range Interceptor will ever beat you. ;) ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.18 09:23:00 - [6] While Merdaneth is a little harsh, he's right. The AB Crusader does a lot better vs Ranises than the MWD Crusader due to the fact that Crusader is no longer a ship that can engage at 10-15k after the Locust + optimal nerf. Although, to be fair, I'm fairly certain that a well-piloted MWD+AB Taranis would beat the Crusader in a 1on1 - MWD to get into range, turn on the AB the instant your MWD is offlined and simply keep at a close range (don't orbit to mess up your tracking). There are not a lot of well-piloted Ranises around though, seeing as a big majority of the people who fly them still think that a 500m orbit is somehow a good idea vs other Interceptors (see Disintregrator's movie where 90% of the Taranises he fights are orbiting and missing half their shots). Some people are far too narrowminded on this forum. AB fits work in some instances. They are not the end be all of PvP though. I have multiple Crusaders lined up in my Hangar with both MWDs and ABs on 'em. I lost my latest AB Crusader to a Rifter of all things. Funniest part is, I lost it after fighting this guy 1on1 once before, winning and telling him that "if he had a Neut he would have killed me" - which, when I returned a week or so later, he obviously did. Bad idea on my part to engage him, I knew his name looked familiar. ;) I capped out when he was just hitting hull - with a MWD I would have capped out way earlier. In hindsight, I should have stopped repairing earlier and simply gone for fullout damage and I may have been able to kill him before capping out. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.18 09:29:00 - [7] Originally by: UMEE secondly, are you at all thinking about light drones? i dont think you are. even hob II's can go about 3.1km/s, and easily maintain orbit around you. mwd fits can maintain range on cruisers. a few inties can even outrun warrior II's. if you cant, then at least you can warp out. finally, to all those drawing on their mad "pvp experience" to make these silly conclusions about AB's: if youre using an AB in pvp, you simply aren't good enough to compete with those who are experienced. this is why you don't understand why AB's suck. enough said. ... You are so clueless it hurts. I thought Gunship Diplomacy were a little smarter than this. Is this your main? Because...wow, those are some pityful PvP stats. I think you may want to get a little more experience before you talk about these things. ABs do not suck. They have a role just as every other module ingame has a role (save for some really terrible drones and whatnot). They are not the best for every role, infact they are usually not the best choice at all seeing as the frigates you wish to use them on are primarily tacklers in fleets. But that does not make them a bad choice for solo work. I am absolutely amazed at the sheer amount of stupidity in this thread. Some of you should avoid commenting on topics that you do not have the slightest clue about. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.19 20:58:00 - [8] Originally by: UMEE look, it's a game. im posting my opinions and not those of gdip. to me, arguing is fun sometimes and there was no ill intent behind my words. while my tone is argumentative, i dont feel it's particularly disrespectful. all im saying is that you may not have tested out your builds sufficiently against experienced opponents. im not putting down anyone's religion or mother. but i can see why it may come across as that over the internets, and with people taking games a little too seriously. getting convoed about this in game is really silly imho. take your AB's and leave me alone please . i dont wanna be a part of any politics...it's a little too hardcore for me. i was just trying to help the OP. There's a difference between expressing a well thought out opinion and just being an argumentive, ill-informed ****. You are the latter. The sooner you realize it, the sooner we won't have to endure your posts. If UMEE really is your main no wonder you have no idea what you're talking about. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3

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