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Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.16 20:31:00 - [1] Edited by: Kouryusei on 16/05/2009 20:36:05 This post is HIGHLY incomplete. It will be updated over the next 24 hours, this initial post is roughly 10% of the final content. intraPAY intraPAY is a trading companion for Eve Online. It is able to be run either locally or remotely. - Local. In local mode, intraPAY runs on a portable application server that is able to be ran from a pendrive. I currently plan to offer support for Windows, Linux and Mac. - Remote. In remote mode, intraPAY runs on well... one of my many, many servers. The server in question is currently being built. ----- Features Market History. Ever wanted to be able to view the market history of an item outside of Eve Online, without having to rely on potentially incorrect 3rd party data? Now you can. This feature generates advanced reports (as well as spitting out the "dumb" data) that allow you to maximize your trading potential and spot a potential dud in your portfolio. Each time you update your cache files, a snapshot is made of the previous cache - allowing you to generate a number of reports and graphs to compare data over time. You are able to export the data to CSV, XML and a number of other formats. The market history functionality of intraPAY can be directed to monitor a UNC path (\\192.168.0.13\cachefiles\) for tracking of a single cache database over multiple machines. Cache merging of accounts is also possible. Order Tracking. Want to be able to track your orders? Well, most people do. This feature does exactly that. If you're so inclined, you can be notified of order alerts via email or SMS. More features to be announced shortly. ----- Screenshots Market Orders I'm a tease, you're only getting the one screenshot for now. And yes, the ugly UI will be changed. ----- Release Date Closed Beta: 18th May 2009. Open Beta: 23rd May 2009. Public Release: 30th May 2009. ----- Beta Applications Requests for entry into the intraPAY closed beta can be made to my newly created [email protected] address. There are a limited number of places, so act fast. This beta replaces the now defunct market history tool beta (this tool is now part of the intraPAY suite, albeit it is still available in a standalone format), so if you've emailed me in regards to that - please shoot me an email instead (my evemail inbox has gotten out of control). ----- Feature Requests Feature requests can be made to [email protected] ----- Licensing This software is licensed under the Beerware license. If you like the product, then if we ever meet one day in the future - you owe me a beer. intraPAY will never become a paid for product, nor will I ever solicit donations. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:29:00 - [2] You've obviously played this game for quite some time... But... State War Academy from 2009.05.05 12:12 to 2009.05.08 19:20 So yeah, source code available? Hate Farmers? Click Here
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:55:00 - [3] Originally by: voogru You've obviously played this game for quite some time... But... State War Academy from 2009.05.05 12:12 to 2009.05.08 19:20 So yeah, source code available? New account, I have not played in quite some time. :) Source code will indeed be available. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.17 12:24:00 - [4] Requests for entry into the closed beta will be closing tomorrow at 9AM GMT. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Valandril Caldari Ex-Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.17 14:27:00 - [5] This screenshoot didn't make my **** hard so i'm not teased at all. With what language you are going here ? Don't tell me thats yet-another-php-wallet. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
Kazimiir	Posted - 2009.05.17 15:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Valandril yet-another-php-wallet. That, unlike any others I've seen, reads from cache files rather than just the API. I'm excited to see it, and kudos for the decision to release the source. :)
Valandril Caldari Ex-Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.17 15:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Kazimiir Originally by: Valandril yet-another-php-wallet. That, unlike any others I've seen, reads from cache files rather than just the API. I'm excited to see it Then just grab alread-existing-wallet and just add function of grabbing data from cache to it, no need to write yet-anoter wallet. And this would be the way to do it opensource way. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.17 15:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Valandril This screenshoot didn't make my ** hard so i'm not teased at all. With what language you are going here ? Don't tell me thats yet-another-php-wallet. Uh, who said it's just a wallet? :) If you dislike the application, and don't really have anything nice to say - just stay out of the thread. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK** - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Valandril Caldari Ex-Mortis	Posted - 2009.05.17 15:49:00 - [9] Edited by: Valandril on 17/05/2009 15:49:21 Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Valandril This screenshoot didn't make my **** hard so i'm not teased at all. With what language you are going here ? Don't tell me thats yet-another-php-wallet. Uh, who said it's just a wallet? :) If you dislike the application, and don't really have anything nice to say - just stay out of the thread. I'm sorry but it's welcome to real world where not everyone will pat your back, here you will hear some character-building words like "YOU STINK" or "Your idea is bad and you are reinventing the wheel". And well, it looks like yet-another-php-wallet so thats why i've asked this question. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
James Tundra	Posted - 2009.05.17 15:54:00 - [10] It looks like a useful application with additional features that aren't included in most others. Looks like a mix of Emma and EVE Tycoon, but its free, open source, and likely to be updated. So I don't have a problem with it at all, in fact im kind of excited to get to see it in action.
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.17 16:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Valandril Edited by: Valandril on 17/05/2009 15:49:21 Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Valandril This screenshoot didn't make my **** hard so i'm not teased at all. With what language you are going here ? Don't tell me thats yet-another-php-wallet. Uh, who said it's just a wallet? :) If you dislike the application, and don't really have anything nice to say - just stay out of the thread. I'm sorry but it's welcome to real world where not everyone will pat your back, here you will hear some character-building words like "YOU STINK" or "Your idea is bad and you are reinventing the wheel". And well, it looks like yet-another-php-wallet so thats why i've asked this question. I was brought up by a family who believed in "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" ;). intraPAY is a tool similar to EMMA with a number of additional features thrown in for good measure. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries	Posted - 2009.05.17 16:54:00 - [12] i think this looks interesting.... where in the process are we? i would like to beta test if you want me to. Quote: The SCC-LOUNGE is now offering Secure Commerce Services @ www.scc-lounge.wordpress.com
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.17 17:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Ji Sama i think this looks interesting.... where in the process are we? i would like to beta test if you want me to. If you drop me an email, I'll put you on the list. The beta is due to start tomorrow. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Black Mack	Posted - 2009.05.17 21:59:00 - [14] I think this looks very interesting. I'll be sure to check it out when it is released.
Key Nas	Posted - 2009.05.18 00:30:00 - [15] Looks very interesting. I will wait for the source code release and will definitely give it a try when that is released!
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.18 01:36:00 - [16] More asset and trade managing programs are always welcome. I'd love to help you beta test this if I weren't hosed....
Tikael Minmatar Distorted Inspiration Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.18 02:53:00 - [17] 1. Server application 2. Source-code to be released 3. Beerware Pure win, if it ends in fruition that is :)
Ambo EMMA Test Corp	Posted - 2009.05.18 07:16:00 - [18] Good work Koury, looks pretty impressive. One thing I would warn you about though: I have heard in the past that CCP are ok with people pulling data from the cache files but only on the understanding that the source code for doing so is not made available. This is why previous cache parsers have always been closed source. tbh, I've never heard this first-hand from CCP, only from other players but then I've never really looked into it. Might be worth getting some clarification from CCP on their position before getting too far down the road with this. Good luck. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Keyser Kahn Stellar-Parallax Corp	Posted - 2009.05.18 10:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Ambo One thing I would warn you about though: I have heard in the past that CCP are ok with people pulling data from the cache files but only on the understanding that the source code for doing so is not made available. Thinks this kinda clarifies: Dev Cache File Usage Commenty Thingy
Ambo EMMA Test Corp	Posted - 2009.05.18 11:01:00 - [20] Ah, that's good to know. All ok then. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.18 11:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Ambo Good work Koury, looks pretty impressive. One thing I would warn you about though: I have heard in the past that CCP are ok with people pulling data from the cache files but only on the understanding that the source code for doing so is not made available. This is why previous cache parsers have always been closed source. tbh, I've never heard this first-hand from CCP, only from other players but then I've never really looked into it. Might be worth getting some clarification from CCP on their position before getting too far down the road with this. Good luck. I've been in touch with CCP prior to this post, and everything is fine. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Miilla	Posted - 2009.05.18 11:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: voogru You've obviously played this game for quite some time... But... State War Academy from 2009.05.05 12:12 to 2009.05.08 19:20 So yeah, source code available? New account, I have not played in quite some time. :) Source code will indeed be available. Just because the source is available doesnt mean thats what is in the build :)
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.18 12:30:00 - [23] Edited by: Kouryusei on 18/05/2009 12:34:41 Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: voogru You've obviously played this game for quite some time... But... State War Academy from 2009.05.05 12:12 to 2009.05.08 19:20 So yeah, source code available? New account, I have not played in quite some time. :) Source code will indeed be available. Just because the source is available doesnt mean thats what is in the build :) Yes, it does. It's a web based application that can run off of a locally embedded server, the files which power the system are in full view (unencrypted) at all times. What you see is what you get. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Selina Candor Chernobyl Trading Corporation	Posted - 2009.05.19 04:33:00 - [24] More apps are always good. Put me down for the beta as well.
ingenting 20th Legion Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2009.05.19 12:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Kazimiir reads from cache files Originally by: Tikael Source-code to be released IIRC CCP doesn't like that combination. _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu BAAOOM... Told you, newb."
Vested Interest	Posted - 2009.05.19 13:52:00 - [26] Edited by: Vested Interest on 19/05/2009 13:53:22 The only place we ever heard that was from Ix Forres because he didn't want to release the code for the eve-metrics cache reader. edit: the cat is slightly out-of-the-bag at this point
Kouryusei Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.19 15:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Vested Interest Edited by: Vested Interest on 19/05/2009 13:53:22 The only place we ever heard that was from Ix Forres because he didn't want to release the code for the eve-metrics cache reader. edit: the cat is slightly out-of-the-bag at this point I have not yet heard anything from CCP in regards to being against the release of source code of my application. All I've heard from Merry is that they do not grant binding explicit permission, nor will they aid or endorse in any manner. Further to this, no tool is allowed to modify the cache files. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices.
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.22 12:20:00 - [28] Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 00:01:00 - [29] Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! Still waiting... EVE Knowledge
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries	Posted - 2009.05.23 00:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! Still waiting... :D patiently we might add :P Quote: The SCC-LOUNGE is now offering Secure Commerce Services @ www.scc-lounge.wordpress.com
Tra' Shaz Gallente manic-recession	Posted - 2009.05.23 02:19:00 - [31] Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! /me claps.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 21:14:00 - [32] Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala EVE Knowledge
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.23 21:23:00 - [33] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala Until I am 100% satisfied with the product, it will not be sent out; I have also been receiving new feature requests on a daily basis - which I am implementing prior to beta testing. This is the way I develop, and it has never failed me in the past. :) A couple of people experienced in software stress testing have received an early alpha, as well as a developer who wanted the cache reader API. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 21:37:00 - [34] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala Until I am 100% satisfied with the product, it will not be sent out; I have also been receiving new feature requests on a daily basis - which I am implementing prior to beta testing. This is the way I develop, and it has never failed me in the past. :) A couple of people experienced in software stress testing have received an early alpha, as well as a developer who wanted the cache reader API. I thought Beta meant unfinished product. Can you tell them post their comments here on first impressions to tease us? pleaseeee EVE Knowledge
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.23 21:44:00 - [35] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala Until I am 100% satisfied with the product, it will not be sent out; I have also been receiving new feature requests on a daily basis - which I am implementing prior to beta testing. This is the way I develop, and it has never failed me in the past. :) A couple of people experienced in software stress testing have received an early alpha, as well as a developer who wanted the cache reader API. I thought Beta meant unfinished product. Can you tell them post their comments here on first impressions to tease us? pleaseeee The term beta test generally refers to the preliminary testing stage of a product, in regards to intraPAY; this means a full set of features, whilst it will become more "streamlined", "secure" and "optimized" in terms of code prior to the final release. It also means beta in the sense that more features will certainly be added even once testing is in progress. I however intend to throw as many in as possible before letting you ravenous pack of wolves in on it. :) The people currently tinkering with the tool itself are solely tasked with stress testing the product. You'll have your own first impression soon enough, be patient. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.05.23 22:11:00 - [36] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/05/2009 22:12:47 Originally by: Kouryusei The people currently tinkering with the tool itself are solely tasked with stress testing the product. You'll have your own first impression soon enough, be patient. :) Can you ask them to post here please? It would be quite lame for them to test EVE related software without having access to Eve themselves. Black Sun Empire
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 22:23:00 - [37] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/05/2009 22:12:47 Originally by: Kouryusei The people currently tinkering with the tool itself are solely tasked with stress testing the product. You'll have your own first impression soon enough, be patient. :) Can you ask them to post here please? It would be quite lame for them to test EVE related software without having access to Eve themselves. That would be nice. EVE Knowledge
Feryal Sky	Posted - 2009.05.23 22:28:00 - [38] Where is the project housed? Can we get some palpable evidence as to its existence?
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.24 00:15:00 - [39] If this post seems a bit jumbled, I'm extremely tired and about to go cat nap. Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/05/2009 22:12:47 Originally by: Kouryusei The people currently tinkering with the tool itself are solely tasked with stress testing the product. You'll have your own first impression soon enough, be patient. :) Can you ask them to post here please? It would be quite lame for them to test EVE related software without having access to Eve themselves. Quote: That would be nice. I will not be asking them to post here, I have zero desire or reason to on my side of things. Internal alpha testing is always private with me, and that will never change. Thankfully, their testing is now over, and I will be making a few modifications to the system to fix the errors that cropped up, once I am back from my trip, in the afternoon tomorrow. For the record, they have access to EVE; one of them has been playing longer then most of you I expect :). Quote: Where is the project housed? Can we get some palpable evidence as to its existence? The project itself is housed in the same location as my commercial software offerings (I work through SVN, so it's also available on a local server at home), once I decide I am ready to release the beta; you'll have your palpable evidence. If you have a legitimate vested interest in seeing potential code samples, or having limited access to the remote system to test prior to me being ready to ship out the beta (this does not mean that you are a potential user, this would generally mean you are a developer looking to interface), then please drop me an email. :) Note: If you've sent me an email in regards to the above, and I have yet to respond; I will eventually. If you'd rather I call you back (email is so impersonal), feel free to drop me your phone number (or request mine). -- Not to seem annoyed or arrogant, but please understand me when I say I am doing this in my spare time, for zero return. If something crops up in real life, then it takes a priority over this; and as I am in the midst of organizing a few things to do with the company during my leave of absence, things keep cropping up :) (As an example, I have to be on a flight in 4 hours at 5AM to take care of some trivial crap). A few people have emailed me and asked me extremely politely for code samples (and other things), which I have happily provided. Additionally, people have asked me what my qualifications are, and what I do for a living. I'm the director of an ISV (based in the UK) that also does a fair bit of high-end mission critical network and infrastructure solutions, licensing and hardware financing ("value added services"). Way back when, I was a software engineer that ended up getting my CCNP and MCSE in order to broaden my horizons. It turned out to be for the best. :) I'm a hands-on person, and can program in a plethora of languages; I actually find joy in it. I regularly attend a number of conferences and conventions (recently, it's been more tailored towards security, PCI compliance, e.t.c), and if you went to the last Infosec - chances are that we have met. -- Anyway, it's 1AM, I've been up since 6AM - I have to be on a flight in four hours, and my cat has just come in to heat (the incessant yowling ¼_¼). Thankfully though, my wife has managed to fall asleep (which during the 3rd trimester seems to be a tad hard to do). So, I'm gonna grab a nap for a couple of hours (if I can). :) Fly safe all. o/ ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.05.24 00:33:00 - [40] Originally by: Kouryusei I'm the director of an ISV (based in the UK) that also does a fair bit of high-end mission critical network and infrastructure solutions, licensing and hardware financing ("value added services"). Way back when, I was a software engineer that ended up getting my CCNP and MCSE in order to broaden my horizons. It turned out to be for the best. :) I'm a hands-on person, and can program in a plethora of languages; I actually find joy in it. I regularly attend a number of conferences and conventions (recently, it's been more tailored towards security, PCI compliance, e.t.c), and if you went to the last Infosec - chances are that we have met. -- lol Black Sun Empire
Adrian Idaho Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.05.24 07:51:00 - [41] Originally by: YouGotRipped [snip] lol I understand that you're tired, it must have taken quite some time to gather the info and then compose a lengthy story, while avoiding to provide one conclusive proof as to the existence of the project. You've exaggerated with the convincing job, do you know why? Dude, what is your problem? If what he's saying is true (and I don't see a reason to doubt it), then he has a lot on his plate even without your stupid comments. He has no material gain from his project (except maybe advertisement for his business), and he lets everyone profit from it once he's more or less satisfied with the result. And even if he was lying and the project doesn't exist, you haven't lost anything, no time, no money, no ISK. So just shut up and go troll somewhere else. Blatantly Obvious Features that need to be implemented, stat!
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.05.24 08:08:00 - [42] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 24/05/2009 08:11:40 Originally by: Adrian Idaho Dude, what is your problem? If what he's saying is true (and I don't see a reason to doubt it), then he has a lot on his plate even without your stupid comments. Just because you don't see a reason to doubt it, doesn't mean that what he's saying is true. For the community's peace of mind, not mine, we will have to wait but I'm afraid it will take forever. Originally by: Adrian Idaho He has no material gain from his project (except maybe advertisement for his business), and he lets everyone profit from it once he's more or less satisfied with the result. Linky Black Sun Empire
Professor Leech Transmetropolitan	Posted - 2009.05.24 08:18:00 - [43] Originally by: YouGotRipped Just because you don't see a reason to doubt it, doesn't mean that what he's saying is true. For the community's peace of mind, not mine, we will have to wait but I'm afraid it will take forever. Are you sure? How's your bond going? Originally by: Crawe DeRaven this thread is obviously going places
EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness	Posted - 2009.05.24 08:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Professor Leech Originally by: YouGotRipped Just because you don't see a reason to doubt it, doesn't mean that what he's saying is true. For the community's peace of mind, not mine, we will have to wait but I'm afraid it will take forever. Are you sure? How's your bond going? It's going pretty well, that 0% vote visual bug really helped me out.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.05.24 10:14:00 - [45] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 24/05/2009 10:15:52 Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! hahah of course the mail never came but... in the exact same day he posted this Black Sun Empire
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.24 10:37:00 - [46] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 24/05/2009 10:31:36 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala hahah of course the mail never came but... in the exact same day he posted this failed attempt at obtaining public funding. A failed attempt that resulted in a successful round of funding. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.05.24 10:45:00 - [47] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 24/05/2009 10:45:21 Originally by: Kouryusei A failed attempt that resulted in a successful round of funding. :) How much did you milked the community for this time? Black Sun Empire
Festidious Verrucas Draconis Alumni Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.05.24 11:18:00 - [48] Howdy, I'm not on the beta for this but I do have an interest in the actual application. Being one of those who have invested in the "The Bitter Sea Trading Company" - I'm watching with interest to see (and judge) what happens with IntraPAY at beta stage. I mean, not being negative or anything but have any beta versions been sent out? If not û when? If you fail or delay in this - what confidence do the investors and even the MD have in you with your "bond"? - this is a judging time for you I for one am waiting with baited breath for this application :) Will it ever appear....? No pressure or anything Fly safe, Fes.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.05.24 13:39:00 - [49] @Above Beta = software almost ready to ship, only lacking of the final "polish". The software Kouryusei is making, by his own words is far from beta. As you might have noticed, instead, you'll probably tried several software in the past with the "beta" label but that were complete crap. Beta is the "noob on the road" term used by semi-incompetent or "too smart" companies to raise expectations about software effectively still in deep development phase, usually to get undue / earlier funding. Alpha = software with most functionality but not all (ie some buttons / menu are not even still implemented) that will usually break if you stress / monkey test them. Often this is what is optimistically called "Closed beta" by MMO companies. Pre-alpha = software barely out of development status, very easy to crash / still requiring manual input where the final product will be automated, or only accepting i.e. a certain file instead of an user freely chosen input file and so on. I guesstimate the software proposed is in pre-alpha at best, expecially considering the need to setup a remote server. I also guesstimate, by having developed some business software, that it will take weeks to see a semi-working application.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.24 14:47:00 - [50] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha @Above Beta = software almost ready to ship, only lacking of the final "polish". The software Kouryusei is making, by his own words is far from beta. As you might have noticed, instead, you'll probably tried several software in the past with the "beta" label but that were complete crap. Beta is the "noob on the road" term used by semi-incompetent or "too smart" companies to raise expectations about software effectively still in deep development phase, usually to get undue / earlier funding. Alpha = software with most functionality but not all (ie some buttons / menu are not even still implemented) that will usually break if you stress / monkey test them. Often this is what is optimistically called "Closed beta" by MMO companies. Pre-alpha = software barely out of development status, very easy to crash / still requiring manual input where the final product will be automated, or only accepting i.e. a certain file instead of an user freely chosen input file and so on. I guesstimate the software proposed is in pre-alpha at best, expecially considering the need to setup a remote server. I also guesstimate, by having developed some business software, that it will take weeks to see a semi-working application. If that were the case why he would say the following? Quote: Release Date Closed Beta: 18th May 2009. Open Beta: 23rd May 2009. Public Release: 30th May 2009. Specially when that was said on 2009.05.16 two days before releasing beta day. I don't think so, saying that he'll release the beta in two days with a software that "will take weeks to see a semi-working application"? I don't think so. Maybe he is a perfectionist or, god forbid it, is a scammer, I don't know, but surely you don't have a barely developed software out there. @Kour: What means SVN, ISV, CCNP and MCSE? I have no idea about the meaning of that acronyms, maybe because I'm not english, do you live on the islands (aka UK)? EVE Knowledge
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.24 15:50:00 - [51] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus @Kour: What means SVN, ISV, CCNP and MCSE? SVN - subversion, a popular version control system (allows you to track changes to your code) ISV - independent software vendor CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional (knows how to setup a complex network using Cisco hardware) MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert (look it up for yourself if you really care) (obviously, I am not Kour) " Credit is the economic judgement on the morality of a man. "
Festidious Verrucas Draconis Alumni Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.05.25 00:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Mme Pinkerton Originally by: Krathos Morpheus MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert (look it up for yourself if you really care) MCSE - Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer - just sayin Fly safe, Fes.
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.25 11:09:00 - [53] The product is now almost ready to move out of alpha, the majority of errors have now been fixed, and very few minor errors now remain. I'll be tackling those today, and doing a final round of "oh **" testing. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY** - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.25 11:41:00 - [54] Originally by: Kouryusei The product is now almost ready to move out of alpha, the majority of errors have now been fixed, and very few minor errors now remain. I'll be tackling those today, and doing a final round of "oh ****" testing. :) \o/ EVE Knowledge
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.05.25 19:21:00 - [55] Quote: Maybe he is a perfectionist or, god forbid it, is a scammer, I don't know, but surely you don't have a barely developed software out there. I never implied he's a scammer. There's enough in MD that believe everyone is a scammer already, no need to add to the choir. I just read Remote. "In remote mode, intraPAY runs on well... one of my many, many servers. The server in question is currently being built." Now, if the server is not completely trivial, it leads to believe it won't be ready so soon. (I consider "the software" as the sum of its parts, including the server).
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.25 20:31:00 - [56] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: Maybe he is a perfectionist or, god forbid it, is a scammer, I don't know, but surely you don't have a barely developed software out there. I never implied he's a scammer. There's enough in MD that believe everyone is a scammer already, no need to add to the choir. I just read Remote. "In remote mode, intraPAY runs on well... one of my many, many servers. The server in question is currently being built." Now, if the server is not completely trivial, it leads to believe it won't be ready so soon. (I consider "the software" as the sum of its parts, including the server). The server segment is one of the more trivial parts. :)
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.26 07:12:00 - [57] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: Maybe he is a perfectionist or, god forbid it, is a scammer, I don't know, but surely you don't have a barely developed software out there. I never implied he's a scammer. There's enough in MD that believe everyone is a scammer already, no need to add to the choir. I just read Remote. "In remote mode, intraPAY runs on well... one of my many, many servers. The server in question is currently being built." Now, if the server is not completely trivial, it leads to believe it won't be ready so soon. (I consider "the software" as the sum of its parts, including the server). The server segment is one of the more trivial parts. :) I did not say you were implying that, just that there is no way for him to announce inminent release being at the state you claim, I have very very little experience with programing (I have even forgotten the few I learned), but logic brings to my mind only that two possible reasons given the situation(actually three, but I think we can discard him being a moron :). I think the scam is unlikely at this point, but that posibility combined with the poor management of critics and lack of experience and skills saw on the audit made me cancel my share reservation on his business aiming for a win/win situation. I'm glad to confirm from kour that the software is not that undeveloped, I expected no other answer :).
Teavan Gallente First CityWide Change Bank	Posted - 2009.05.29 19:57:00 - [58] And then?
Tra' Shaz Gallente manic-recession	Posted - 2009.05.30 23:07:00 - [59] Originally by: Kouryusei The product is now almost ready to move out of alpha, the majority of errors have now been fixed, and very few minor errors now remain. I'll be tackling those today, and doing a final round of "oh ****" testing. :) Yay! ...and bump
Varo Jan Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.31 01:18:00 - [60] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala Still no email. Not holding my breath.
Muscaat ASCENTIS CORPORATION Free Worlds Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.02 11:31:00 - [61] Friendly bump... any news yet?
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.11 15:45:00 - [62] Following on from the birth of my son, I now have the time to pick this up and finalize things. :) I'm sure everyone can understand that a new life being brought into the family has taken up my time over the past couple of weeks.
Pevaw Expatria Inc The Firm.	Posted - 2009.06.11 17:39:00 - [63] I would like to first congratulate you on the birth of your son. Wish you all the joys along with the headaches that come with that ;) I've been there myself. Next I would like to ask now that you have more time on your hands if you could please set up the voice servers you were selling in this thread. Been waiting very patiently for my new vent server. Thanks for your time and all the best to you and your wife.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.06.11 17:45:00 - [64] wow nice, didnt see that, wondered what happened.. well i can say is enjoy it and take your time with the babby...... you dont get that special time back ever :D i know i loved having my son around me for almost a year now :D wish the lady the best and kiss you babby from all of MD Quote: "Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed"
Mordozan Caldari Gaiscioch Ar Dearglasadh	Posted - 2009.06.14 14:23:00 - [65] Interesting :)
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.14 14:31:00 - [66] Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. EVE Knowledge
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.14 15:30:00 - [67] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Try emailing me on the Gmail adddress listed in the first post of the thread, the server that hosts the mail for Intrapay died and I've had to ship a new one out. :)
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.14 17:34:00 - [68] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Try emailing me on the Gmail adddress listed in the first post of the thread, the server that hosts the mail for Intrapay died and I've had to ship a new one out. :) I just wanted some news on the proyect,is it still alive? The beta was supposed to come one month ago.
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.14 17:48:00 - [69] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Try emailing me on the Gmail adddress listed in the first post of the thread, the server that hosts the mail for Intrapay died and I've had to ship a new one out. :) I just wanted some news on the proyect,is it still alive? The beta was supposed to come one month ago. It is indeed still alive, I've had my time taken up lately due to the fact that my child was born close to 2 months prematurely. :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
Drab Cane Mining Emporium inc.	Posted - 2009.06.14 18:22:00 - [70] This utility looked interesting. When its further along I'd like to take a look at it. In the meantime, take care of your son and just keep us updated once a week. Best wishes to you and your family! ----------------------------------------------- - Who Dares, Wins
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.14 19:25:00 - [71] Originally by: Kouryusei It is indeed still alive, I've had my time taken up lately due to the fact that my child was born close to 2 months prematurely. :) Glad to hear that. I didn't read about your son, Congrats! Btw, now CONCORD is after me, because of this reply: Quote: Pyramid quoting (quoting more than 4 people recursively) is not allowed, please remove some of the quotes and try again! CONCORD has been notified
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:35:00 - [72] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 15/06/2009 10:36:33 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Your logic is sound, that's precisely the reason why it will not be released. JESUS!
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:45:00 - [73] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 15/06/2009 10:36:33 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Your logic is sound, that's precisely the reason why it will not be released. JESUS! Nah... logic fails there. It is just that I desperately want my hands on that tool since announced and I lose my hope from time to time seeing that time goes by and nothing new is known. I use to fail specially when I have too much hours without sleeping on my back.
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:47:00 - [74] A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:56:00 - [75] Originally by: Kouryusei A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. weeeeeeeee \o/ EVE Knowledge
Skyvyr Caldari House Of BlackStar Semper-Mortis	Posted - 2009.06.17 14:27:00 - [76] I am very interested in this.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.17 17:50:00 - [77] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 16/06/2009 18:34:50 Originally by: Kouryusei A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. weeeeeeeee \o/ (Looks like I'm not in the first bunch :( I waaaaaant!) My bet is on: Feedback revealed some rather nasty stability issues, going back to the drawing board for the rest of eternity. But anything will do... Black Sun Empire
Dzil Caldari Space Whales is SRS BIZNESS	Posted - 2009.06.17 18:01:00 - [78] o.0 If you rearrange the letters in his name, it comes out I use our KY... So unlike YGR, he uses lube. That aside though, I think KY's legit. Coding for free rarely happens fast. If you've ever followed dwarf fortress, you'll understand this. Been almost a year since his last release. Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m for 7+ standings Out of stock till 6/19/09
Taelech Caldari Caldari Design and Cryogenics	Posted - 2009.06.17 18:12:00 - [79] Koury, I have no interest in your project but was just reading the forums and read this entire thread. Having a 9-month old myself, the thought that you will have free time for the next year or so is laughable. You still got the app out though. Kudos! Make sure you keep your priorities straight in the coming months. I have lost two rigged Nighthawks to missions because I had to take care of the boy. No regrets. Now I just fly T1 stuff, at least until he gets old enough to play... :) Congratulations on adding two feet to your home! How is he doing? 2 months premie is not life threatning with modern technology, but I'm sure it is enough to make you terribly concerned. Is he in NICU? I wish you and your family the best. Kind Regards, Taelech - Professor emeritus - Caldari Business Tribunal School of Law
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.17 18:21:00 - [80] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 17/06/2009 18:23:15 Originally by: Dzil o.0 If you rearrange the letters in his name, it comes out I use our KY... So unlike YGR, he uses lube. That aside though, I think KY's legit. Coding for free rarely happens fast. If you've ever followed dwarf fortress, you'll understand this. Been almost a year since his last release. Oh come on, Dzil. Have a little faith. How long can it be till morning? P.S. Your rearrangement could have been better. Black Sun Empire
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.17 19:16:00 - [81] Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 16/06/2009 18:34:50 Originally by: Kouryusei A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. weeeeeeeee \o/ (Looks like I'm not in the first bunch :( I waaaaaant!) My bet is on: Feedback revealed some rather nasty stability issues, going back to the drawing board for the rest of eternity. But anything will do... Go back to your hole! Bad scammer... bad scammer... XD
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.18 07:05:00 - [82] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. weeeeeeeee \o/ (Looks like I'm not in the first bunch :( I waaaaaant!) My bet is on: Feedback revealed some rather nasty stability issues, going back to the drawing board for the rest of eternity. But anything will do... Go back to your hole! Bad scammer... bad scammer... XD Save your energy for later, you'll need it to kiss my feet. Black Sun Empire
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.18 07:42:00 - [83] Originally by: YouGotRipped Save your energy for later, you'll need it to kiss my feet. You made me laugh, thanks. I don't see why would I do such thing, did you think I was defending the OP? I'll wait and see what happens, almost two days since "the remainder will receive it in the morning". But we'll wait a little more, since we don't want him to keep the tool for personal use forced by people who don't believe in him, do we? Some words seem to have such behaviours on some people XD. As long as he don't ask for more money there is no reason for him to maintain any charade. EVE Knowledge
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:06:00 - [84] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: YouGotRipped Save your energy for later, you'll need it to kiss my feet. You made me laugh, thanks. I don't see why would I do such thing, did you think I was defending the OP? I'll wait and see what happens, almost two days since "the remainder will receive it in the morning". But we'll wait a little more, since we don't want him to keep the tool for personal use forced by people who don't believe in him, do we? Some words seem to have such behaviours on some people XD. As long as he don't ask for more money there is no reason for him to maintain any charade. There will be a post/email up in the next 60 minutes or so. :)
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:57:00 - [85] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: YouGotRipped Save your energy for later, you'll need it to kiss my feet. You made me laugh, thanks. I don't see why would I do such thing, did you think I was defending the OP? I'll wait and see what happens, almost two days since "the remainder will receive it in the morning". But we'll wait a little more, since we don't want him to keep the tool for personal use forced by people who don't believe in him, do we? Some words seem to have such behaviours on some people XD. As long as he don't ask for more money there is no reason for him to maintain any charade. There will be a post/email up in the next 60 minutes or so. :) I have to pop out for a few hours now (hospital), I'd completely forgotten. To update quickly, the final remote version is currently uploading; and will be open to the public today. ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:02:00 - [86] Originally by: Kouryusei I have to pop out for a few hours now (hospital), I'd completely forgotten. To update quickly, the final remote version is currently uploading; and will be open to the public today. Hospital? Man, I didn't know it was that serious, your health should always come first. So if you don't upload it today, never sounds good as any. Black Sun Empire
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.19 12:05:00 - [87] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 19/06/2009 07:44:58 Originally by: Kouryusei I have to pop out for a few hours now (hospital), I'd completely forgotten. To update quickly, the final remote version is currently uploading; and will be open to the public today. Hospital? Hold on there buddy, I didn't know it was that serious, your health should always come first. So if you don't upload it today, never sounds as good as any. I'll be quite blunt here, don't make a joke about anything hospital related in this thread (it's not my health, it's that of my child). Anyway, back to the news! Sorry about the slight delay, uploading lots of data over a HSPDA modem = meh. It's all uploaded now, so keep checking on intrapay.co.uk throughout the day (I be tweaking). :) ----- eveHOSTED - Hosting you can afford. eveTALK - Ventrilo / Teamspeak at affordable prices. intraPAY - A market tool of some kind... >_>.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.19 12:14:00 - [88] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 19/06/2009 07:44:58 Originally by: Kouryusei I have to pop out for a few hours now (hospital), I'd completely forgotten. To update quickly, the final remote version is currently uploading; and will be open to the public today. Hospital? Hold on there buddy, I didn't know it was that serious, your health should always come first. So if you don't upload it today, never sounds as good as any. I'll be quite blunt here, don't make a joke about anything hospital related in this thread (it's not my health, it's that of my child). Anyway, back to the news! Sorry about the slight delay, uploading lots of data over a HSPDA modem = meh. It's all uploaded now, so keep checking on intrapay.co.uk throughout the day (I be tweaking). :) It doesn't works at the moment :( Where is the local mode download? EVE Knowledge
Adrian Idaho Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.19 16:33:00 - [89] I can't load intrapay.co.uk. In fact, when I try to ping it, I get Originally by: ping ping: unknown host intrapay.co.uk so I suspect the URL isn't registered.
Kouryusei Caldari The Bitter Sea Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.19 16:38:00 - [90] Originally by: Adrian Idaho I can't load intrapay.co.uk. In fact, when I try to ping it, I get Originally by: ping ping: unknown host intrapay.co.uk so I suspect the URL isn't registered. Or perhaps the A record that the URL points to is that of an IP address on an old server that was decommisioned; and I'm going to reprovision it later tonight? :)
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.21 12:14:00 - [91] Let's keep this where everyone can see it. Black Sun Empire
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.21 20:31:00 - [92] Not working EVE Knowledge
Varo Jan Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.21 21:17:00 - [93] Originally by: YouGotRipped Let's keep this where everyone can see it. Tsk, tsk! I really don¦t understand why you¦re being so mean to the poor lad. I mean, look at everything he¦s achieved in his brief Eve existence: - He claims to have cracked the secwet market cache, and, out of the goodness of his heart, he intends to release the info to all and sundry. So what if he keeps missing deadlines? - He¦s developing the ultimate financial app which will meld seamlessly with cache info. So what if that¦s also a month or so late? - He has offered to redevelop what he calls a "simple" application called EMMA. Should take him no time, he says. - He has offered offsite backup to both DBank and EBank. Not a lot he could do with all that data, is there? - He has a Bitter IPO up and running. So what if he had to be pressured by investors to keep his promise in the very first month. Yes, yes... he has been awol for much of June, but he did explain when he returned that his wife had given birth to a premature boy. Since then he has spent a considerable amount of time in-game. But I suspect he¦ll have to pay investors out of capital in June. RL does come first, after all. Mind, an audit update would be useful to allay the fears of those dastardly nay-sayers.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.21 22:12:00 - [94] Originally by: Varo Jan Originally by: YouGotRipped Let's keep this where everyone can see it. Tsk, tsk! I really don¦t understand why you¦re being so mean to the poor lad. I mean, look at everything he¦s achieved in his brief Eve existence: - He claims to have cracked the secwet market cache, and, out of the goodness of his heart, he intends to release the info to all and sundry. So what if he keeps missing deadlines? - He¦s developing the ultimate financial app which will meld seamlessly with cache info. So what if that¦s also a month or so late? - He has offered to redevelop what he calls a "simple" application called EMMA. Should take him no time, he says. - He has offered offsite backup to both DBank and EBank. Not a lot he could do with all that data, is there? - He has a Bitter IPO up and running. So what if he had to be pressured by investors to keep his promise in the very first month. Yes, yes... he has been awol for much of June, but he did explain when he returned that his wife had given birth to a premature boy. Since then he has spent a considerable amount of time in-game. But I suspect he¦ll have to pay investors out of capital in June. RL does come first, after all. Mind, an audit update would be useful to allay the fears of those dastardly nay-sayers. I can't help you. Black Sun Empire
Muscaat ASCENTIS CORPORATION Free Worlds Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.22 21:53:00 - [95] Originally by: Kouryusei Sorry about the slight delay, uploading lots of data over a HSPDA modem = meh. It's all uploaded now, so keep checking on intrapay.co.uk throughout the day (I be tweaking). :) I still just get an IIS splash screen at that URL (points to 78.129.148.100 btw).
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.23 07:25:00 - [96] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/06/2009 07:27:58 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Not working Doch! It is working! And the green wire connected to the yellow wire and the yellow wire connected to the red wire and the red wire connected to the wallet. Black Sun Empire
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.23 07:27:00 - [97] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/06/2009 07:31:40 Originally by: Kouryusei so keep checking on intrapay.co.uk throughout the day Black Sun Empire
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.06.23 15:37:00 - [98] Quoting myself: Quote: I guesstimate the software proposed is in pre-alpha at best, expecially considering the need to setup a remote server. I also guesstimate, by having developed some business software, that it will take weeks to see a semi-working application Quote: If that were the case why he would say the following? Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Release Date Closed Beta: 18th May 2009. Open Beta: 23rd May 2009. Public Release: 30th May 2009 Specially when that was said on 2009.05.16 two days before releasing beta day. I don't think so, saying that he'll release the beta in two days with a software that "will take weeks to see a semi-working application"? I don't think so. Yes, thought so.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:26:00 - [99] Still no coments/answers on this? Originally by: Kourusei Originally by: Ji Sama well sorry for being a douchebag then :( You're not a douche, evemail me if you want the internal intrapay url. How is it going Ji? Any comments on the tool? EVE Knowledge
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:45:00 - [100] no comments sorry..
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:52:00 - [101] Originally by: Ji Sama no comments sorry.. What means that? Why not?
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.26 15:10:00 - [102] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 26/06/2009 15:11:08 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Ji Sama no comments sorry.. What means that? Why not? Nevermind. Black Sun Empire
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 16:58:00 - [103] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 26/06/2009 15:11:08 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Ji Sama no comments sorry.. What means that? Why not? Nevermind. ? EVE Knowledge
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.26 17:13:00 - [104] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 26/06/2009 15:11:08 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Ji Sama no comments sorry.. What means that? Why not? Nevermind. ? Linky Black Sun Empire
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:12:00 - [105] Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 26/06/2009 21:12:38 Originally by: YouGotRipped Linky Interesting link. I am above average acording to that test, but english is not my language and I passed more time translating and understanding the questions than answering them, some of them I didn't even answered because I've learned most of my english from reading more than studying and some words I didn't knew the meaning. Next time post something relevant. Now, I would like Ji to say if he has received the secret url and why he don't want to make comments if he has. Maybe you don't mind, but I'm interested.
Eiroze	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:21:00 - [106] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 26/06/2009 21:12:38 Originally by: YouGotRipped Linky Interesting link. I am above average acording to that test, but english is not my language and I passed more time translating and understanding the questions than answering them, some of them I didn't even answered because I've learned most of my english from reading more than studying and some words I didn't knew the meaning. Next time post something relevant. Now, I would like Ji to say if he has received the secret url and why he don't want to make comments if he has. Maybe you don't mind, but I'm interested. Or maybe I've been too busy to logon to EVE and check my mail to see if he's messaged me? :)
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:42:00 - [107] Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 26/06/2009 21:42:22 Originally by: Eiroze Or maybe I've been too busy to logon to EVE and check my mail to see if he's messaged me? :) mmm... I just asked for clarification, I really didn't translate no comments as no answer received. What about my request to try it? Are you going to keep it away from public? I answered to your insinuations to keep it that way in the bitter sea thread and I would like to see what do you think about it, thanks.

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