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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.17 11:22:00 -
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Here is my proposal;
I have 1 unit of trit in Jita 4 4. I will be looking to trade (via whatever means) for another item of greater value. Then this item will become the item to be swapped.
Through the process of many trades, over time the swap item will be of considerable value. When the item reaches 1bn in value it will be sold, and the proceeds split between everyone that was involved in the swaps (me included).
So if 20 people were involved in swaps, they retain the item they swapped for and 50m for example. This isn't a scam although you have only me to trust in that respect, although even if i kept the final item you would still keep the item you swapped for.
In any case I'm not doing this for any real financial gain, just want to see how the idea is received and how far the swaps could go.
*******CURRENT SWAP ITEM*******
Tritanium x 1
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.17 11:22:00 -
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Reserved
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.05.17 11:57:00 -
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Reserved for flaming
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I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :( |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.05.17 11:59:00 -
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Good luck on your idea Bargain Hunt - hopefully we can see more interesting proposals like these from you and the rest of the eve community in the future!
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I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :( |
Dronatti Avironia
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Posted - 2009.05.17 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dronatti Avironia on 17/05/2009 14:04:18
ill set you off and swap you for a Badger MK 2 (fit with 3 cargo expanders)
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.17 14:10:00 -
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Thank you Dronatti :) Thread has been updated. Whats next?
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Akimori
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Posted - 2009.05.17 18:56:00 -
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I'll swap you for a Caracal.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.17 19:34:00 -
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That will just about do it :) Thank you Akimori, updating now.
Whats next?
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.18 19:00:00 -
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Still looking for a swap for the Caracal.
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Holden Jaff
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Posted - 2009.05.19 03:23:00 -
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I'll play..
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb for the caracal....contract up for 3 days 
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.19 17:16:00 -
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Thank you for the offer Holden Jaff, the contract prices seem a bit up and down with three under 2m (at time of posting). I will monitor the prices and decide whether to accept within the 3 days.
For now though, the swap item is still the Caracal, and the swapshop is still open to alternative offers.
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Tartaros Gaia
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:10:00 -
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Funny idea... I found an unused Moa in Jita for you. Contract is up 
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:18:00 -
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Thank you Tartaros Gaia, I will update the thread. Whats next?
Also on the swap shop in general, am thinking that a lottery for the item might be a better idea, with each swap acting as 1 ticket in the lottery.
Maybe not implemented in this run, but a future one, any thoughts? Might give people a little more impetus if they can win the final item outright, along with keeping their swap item.
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Tartaros Gaia
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:21:00 -
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Modifications of this concept may be interesting for future runs, but I think it would look better not to change the rules of the current one - after all it started already. 
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:26:00 -
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Aye, can't go moving the goal posts :D. One for the future methinks.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.20 19:54:00 -
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Still looking for a swap for the Moa.
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Lui Kai
Heavy Influence
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 20:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Bargain Hunt
Thank you Tartaros Gaia, I will update the thread. Whats next?
Also on the swap shop in general, am thinking that a lottery for the item might be a better idea, with each swap acting as 1 ticket in the lottery.
Maybe not implemented in this run, but a future one, any thoughts? Might give people a little more impetus if they can win the final item outright, along with keeping their swap item.
Not to be a nay-sayer, but the final swap for item sale is an item worth 1B, correct?
What profits the person who "swaps" you the 1B item?
People below him might swap something on the hopes of getting a decent cut of that 1B, but he's just going to be selling extremely cheaply :p
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.20 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Bargain Hunt on 20/05/2009 21:19:06
Ya, more thank likely. Which is why I was thinking a lottery might be better.
Anyway... see how this one runs for now :)
Edit: Oh and I know about the whole 'swap' is a bit daft... still couldn't get Edmunds into the thread if I called it Trade Shop. (Brit TV Reference)
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Lui Kai
Heavy Influence
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bargain Hunt
Edited by: Bargain Hunt on 20/05/2009 21:19:06
Ya, more thank likely. Which is why I was thinking a lottery might be better.
Anyway... see how this one runs for now :)
Edit: Oh and I know about the whole 'swap' is a bit daft... still couldn't get Edmunds into the thread if I called it Trade Shop. (Brit TV Reference)
Except, again, the last "swapper" would be swapping with the hope of winning....his own item.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.20 21:39:00 -
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Yes but its still odds based, so the choice would be theirs to take, whereas with the split the money is fixed and the higher value swaps logially must compensate for the lower. Plus they might have taken part in earlier swaps (more tickets) which make it a viable option for the gambler.
You could remove the ISK cap, and either have it as time limit or swap limit.
In any case you are right in what you say, you would be getting a ticket to win an item you already own (plus the item you swapped for) so in essence you would be winning the item you swapped for which I would assume you wanted.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.22 10:01:00 -
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Still looking for a swap for the moa...
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.24 09:52:00 -
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Still looking...
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:47:00 -
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I will throw in a free capacitor recharge... |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.05.26 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bargain Hunt
I will throw in a free capacitor recharge...
IMA CHARGIN MA BUMPAGE!
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Dzil
Caldari
Second Quadrant Ice Division
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Posted - 2009.05.26 23:43:00 -
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Does the item have to be in Jita 4-4?
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In EVE, when someone undercuts you, they're a lemming.
When you undercut someone else, it's skill/effort/manipulation.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.27 17:15:00 -
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Nah high sec (all the way) within a reasonable distance is ok. I suppose :P
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.28 20:00:00 -
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An offer of a Drake has been made, I shall update once the swap is completed.
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Ender2006
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2009.05.29 01:06:00 -
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I'll offer 30 Sisters Combat Scanner probes at jita if interested for the drake.
I was also thinking of how to spur interest interest in the swap since I like the idea. Items have a fixed value and thus, unless someone needs them or is just having fun, some of your trades upwards will be more difficult.
As such I'd like to sponsor ten different incentive rewards to participants in your program. Each participant could be granted a number as they participate and at the end, when the goal is reached we could roll 10 random numbers from the total numbers of participants and they would win their pick of prize in the order of the rolls. Each number could win more than one prize and theoretically could participate in the swap more than once to get more than one number. Others would be welcome to add incentives as well.
Incentives
1-5 = free freighter hauling trip from any high sec location to any high sec location
6-10 = free weekly lifetime reprocessing of any grouping of items at Fed Navy or Caldari Navy stations for component minerals ( ~99% efficiency w/ standings and improving)
Let me know if interested.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.29 17:32:00 -
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I will check the price of the probes, and let ya know :)
I like your idea, I take it by sponsor you mean you will provide those particular prizes?
If so, and seeing that this is only adding to the original proposal I don't see how anyone can loose out or object to extra prizes, and would be happy to implement the idea.
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Ender2006
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2009.05.29 23:05:00 -
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sounds good, I'll set the contract tonight around 9pm CST.
And yep, I'll provide those prizes I mentioned at the end of the event if you'll maintain the list of people that swap items.
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.05.30 11:05:00 -
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3 core defence field purge rigs wich sell for roughly 16-24 mil per depending on where u are
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.30 11:37:00 -
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I will double check CDFP's price when the server comes back up, but 16 x 3 = 48m so if thats the case then its a swap. I will let you know :).
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.05.31 01:13:00 -
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yeah summthing wrong with my contracts page i only get a blank window when i try setting one up can you do the contract pls ill have the items in jita for you
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.05.31 01:27:00 -
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dont worry got it sorted, contract sent
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.05.31 10:03:00 -
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Thank you Jhon' Rambo, I will update the thread.
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.06.01 10:57:00 -
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kk ty, any idea how much you want it to get to before we all split the loot
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John Stoneskin
Dux'R'Us
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:51:00 -
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I'll trade You a Corpus A-type armor em hardener for the 3 purger rigs (It shoud sell fast for 100, it usually goes for 150).
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Bargain Hunt on 01/06/2009 17:09:49
1) Since I stated 1bn, I couldn't really stray from that on this first swap shop.
2) In regard to the Corpus A-type armor EM Hardener, I shall confirm the contract prices and get back to you.
Edit, you are spot on with your 100 - 150 estimate, please set up the trade contract :).
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.02 17:38:00 -
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Still waiting for the contract from John Stoneskin.
I shall wait for a further 24h before looking again to alternative offers.
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John Stoneskin
Dux'R'Us
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Posted - 2009.06.03 07:09:00 -
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Im really sorry I thought I had 3 of those items , but somehow Ive managed to sell 2 and cant find the third one. You will have a Hulk contracted form jita 4-4 today (its around the same amount and should go faster). Sorry again for the inconvenience, my memory suxx :(
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.03 17:19:00 -
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No worries, I shall await the Hulk contract :).
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.03 23:39:00 -
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Thanks John Stoneskin, trade completed. I shall update the thread now.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.04 23:48:00 -
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Still looking for a swap for the Hulk...
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.05 23:47:00 -
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Still looking for a swap...
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.07 02:11:00 -
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Still waiting for a swap... I'll make sure all the mechanical grinding gubbins is nice and sharp.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.08 21:36:00 -
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Still looking for a veldspar trade unionist to take this beauty off my hands.
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keano69
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:34:00 -
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ill swap you a rook, fitted and rigged approx value hulk + 20-30M
mail me in game
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:40:00 -
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Still looking for a swap for the Hulk.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.14 17:08:00 -
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Have a heart someone, this thing was born to be out in the belts, narrowly avoiding suicide ganks. Not stuck in 4-4 with me!
Still looking for a swap...
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.24 21:39:00 -
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Almost forgot about this, then I looked in my hangar and what did I see...
Still looking for a swap.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.27 11:18:00 -
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To the top.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.06.30 20:38:00 -
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Server Reboot bump
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.01 20:39:00 -
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Top Trumps
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Ender2006
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2009.07.02 00:10:00 -
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somebody has to be looking for a hulk! swap for a hulk or I go suicide yours today! :-P
My incentive offers still stand btw for a random drawing from the participants in this swap event!
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JohnnyCashRules
Solarflare Heavy Industries
Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.07.02 05:43:00 -
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This sounds like a cool project... I will trade my Cynabal for the Hulkamania
contract is up yarr!
-JCR
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.02 16:16:00 -
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Hurray finally got rid of that thing!
I mean enjoy :). Updating thread now.
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D Bogart
Free Frigateer Society
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.02 19:02:00 -
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Trade my fully fitted and rigged Boomstick (maelstrom) for the cynabal
Contract up in Jita 4-4
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:02:00 -
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D Bogart
Thank you for your offer, the rigs are 2x core defence capacitor safeguards, worth 3m each so, the total value of your offer is 133m approx.
Cynabal is valued at between 120 - 145m (buy sell contracts).
So no swap for no, and I am open to other offers. I will leave the contract up tho, as it has 13 days to run.
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D Bogart
Free Frigateer Society
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.03 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: D Bogart on 03/07/2009 15:56:49
Originally by: Bargain Hunt
D Bogart
Thank you for your offer, the rigs are 2x core defence capacitor safeguards, worth 3m each so, the total value of your offer is 133m approx.
Cynabal is valued at between 120 - 145m (buy sell contracts).
So no swap for no, and I am open to other offers. I will leave the contract up tho, as it has 13 days to run.
Hrm....you added up the Maelstrom and the two rigs, but how about the 3rd rig, the 8x800mm repeating AC II, x-large shield booster II, heavy cap booster II, 2x Shield boost amp II 2x invuln II, DCU II, 3x gyro II, Co-Proc II
when I added up the min of them all it surpassed the cynabal, I'll add them up againto make sure
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.03 17:50:00 -
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Hehe sorry about that, seems I was either too lazy or dumb to scroll down.
I will add it all up myself and confirm.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.04 08:20:00 -
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Bumpty
I'm of till Sunday the 12th, so please set long contracts up if you are swapping and relate the the previous poster (if any).
o7
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Pboyt
Valiant Research Associates
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.07.04 17:49:00 -
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Bargain Hunt...
What happens to the last guy that swaps you the 1 bill item?
Originally by: Bargain Hunt
Through the process of many trades, over time the swap item gain in value. When the item reaches 1bn in value it will be sold, and the proceeds split between everyone that was involved in the swaps (me included).
Possibly one of the most stupid ideas I have come across. It has only 2 outcomes:
1-You get to the 1 Bill item then sell it and split the isk between only yourself or maybe the rest of the so-called 'players' - in which case you scammed the guy at the end.
2-You never get to the 1 Bill item because no-one is stupid enough to be the guy at the end. You either run off with the item you already have or maybe give it back if your a nice guy.
I have the feeling that your not a nice guy.
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.07.08 10:22:00 -
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i can only come up with one of two reasons why you would be such a bumhole about a nice thing going on,
1, you have mistrust issues and therefore cannot commit into anything that requires having faith in other.
2, you simply do not own anything of the value to match the item currently on the list,
in any case if you stop and think for a sec, the item being swapped is slichtly cheaper than the item your giving up so your not risking much, also at the end we all know what the last item is and we all know roughly how much we are entitled to, so as this is a trial of this type of thing i suggest you either try it or leave it be and at the end youll know if its a scam coz we will all be sayng so. ok
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Oirienicsa
Gallente
THE INSURGENCY
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:40:00 -
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I believe the whole idea is that the guy who gives up the 1b item gets the thing below is (probably worth 800-900mil) AND then also get a cut of the thing being sold...
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.07.09 22:25:00 -
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well yeah, but i like the concept just hoped it would go slightly better
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.11 15:31:00 -
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Haha, comedy.
Anyway agree with the previous 2 posts. Yes thats right i would have to trade the last item, you can contract it for fool proof security, as has been the trend.
And yeah I hoped it would have taken off quicker, but ah well I shall persevere :)
Still have the Mael + in ma hanger.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.13 18:42:00 -
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Bring on the trumpets.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:10:00 -
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Still looking for a swap.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.15 19:27:00 -
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Still looking
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.17 16:35:00 -
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And still looking
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Amaarianna
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:55:00 -
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friendly bump btw what you recon the item up for swap is worth atm
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.19 10:55:00 -
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173m at current Jita Sell Prices.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:40:00 -
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Rumpty Bumpty
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.07.24 19:47:00 -
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To da moon!
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Jhon' Rambo
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Posted - 2009.07.30 22:36:00 -
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.08.01 11:31:00 -
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Bump
You could sell the parts individually for more than the item you swap with.
Or something... put smartbombs on it and efficiently lower your sec status.
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Ellena Manim
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Posted - 2009.08.01 19:13:00 -
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Ho, this is a great scam.
In then end, at the very least you'll have turned a 4isk trit form couple dozens of millions. Not bad. I'm surprised people actually play in it.
This swap thingy was tried and worked in real life. Guy started with a paper clip and ended up with a house. Why? Well, in the end, he got big corporate to actually turn him into advertisement.
Will it work here? I doubt.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.08.02 09:58:00 -
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Yeah that is what I got the idea from.
Bumpty
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.08.09 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Bargain Hunt on 09/08/2009 21:33:36
Bumpty
Two more bumps, and if nobody is interested I'll sell and split. Unless anyone has objections to that...
(split being between swappers, not me legging it )
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