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SuiJuris	Posted - 2009.05.18 21:31:00 - [1] I was trying to come up with a good fit for this damn thing just because I already have really good skills for piloting amarr cruisers. Anyways, the only fit I could come up with where it seems plausible to use it over another Amarr cruiser (which was hard to do since the arbitrator pwns) is this. Highs Medium Pulse Lasers II's (been done before I know) Mids Named AB Scram Medium Cap booster 800 charges Lows 2xMARII 1600RT 2xEANMII DCUII Sports over 38k ehp and tanks 282 dps. Deals out all of 156 dps. I tried the same fit with autocannons but you only get 100 DPS at much shorter ranges without the scorch option for "long" range. I also tried fitting the thing for straight gank but it topped out at 300 dps with lasers and fitting it with blasters just made it a ****tier thorax.
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.05.18 21:59:00 - [2] Hmmmmm.... I must be doing something wrong... I can't get that to fit on all lvl 5 character. I am over cpu by 26 and grid by 514? Can implants/rigs make this fit?! What are you fitting this for? I worked out a PvP fit something like this; [Maller, MWD Maller] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Co-Processor II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Small Nosferatu II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Though it is untried as of yet.... Originally by: Clementina I regard recommending WoW to be a grave matter. That game somehow causes brain damage, and therefore should only be recommended to those who have brain damage already.[/qu
SuiJuris	Posted - 2009.05.18 22:03:00 - [3] Edited by: SuiJuris on 18/05/2009 22:05:31 Make sure your using a named AB, and a Named Scram. Also those are Small Lasers. On all level 5 it has 13 Grid and 15 ish cpu left over. With my skills I have to use a named Neut and it just barely fits. As for plausible uses, bait which is overdone and not as a good a option, also a loan thorax most likely won't think twice about engaging the n00bie maller. Putting it up against a thorax fit with 550 DPS 18k EHP the Maller kills the thorax in 126 seconds while it would take the thorax 144 to kill the maller. Also as long as you stay by gates you *should be able to de aggress and jump if the fights not going your way.
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.05.18 22:16:00 - [4] Small lasers... I forgot about those... you can get away with t2 scram to help extend your range a bit. Originally by: Clementina I regard recommending WoW to be a grave matter. That game somehow causes brain damage, and therefore should only be recommended to those who have brain damage already.[/qu
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.05.18 22:37:00 - [5] Edited by: Omarvelous on 18/05/2009 22:37:59 Your Maller lacks blasters. Damage Control II 2x Adaptive Nano Plate II 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate (fits with 3% power grid implant) 10MN MWD Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler x5 Webifier 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II Small NOS ~34,000 effective HP 312 dps Cheap. Max Tank Tackler (star gates or killing frigs) Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptve Nano Membrane II 1600mm Rolled Tungsten plate 2x 800mm Rolled Tungsten Plate 10MN MWD I Warp Disruptor II Web/Sensor Booster II 5x Medium Pulse Laser II Small NOS ~51,000 effective HP (about the same as a usual PvP Battlecruiser) 150 dps - able to track and kill frigs >500 scan res when using sensor booster and gang bonus. Cheap. Assault Frig Killer Damage Control II Adaptive Nano II 2x 800mm Plate 1600mm Plate Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN Microwarp I Warp Disruptor II x5 Webifier 5x Light Neutron Blaster II Small Nosferatur II 42,000 effective HP 220 dps able to track frigs. Cheap. Maller is one of my favorite cruisers because its so badly underrated. It has an insane buffer for a T1 cruiser. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2009.05.18 23:09:00 - [6] [Maller, Autos] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptive Nano Plating II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M [empty high slot] Projectile Ambit Extension I Projectile Ambit Extension I Projectile Ambit Extension I
Constantine Arcanum IMPERIAL SENATE Initiative Associates	Posted - 2009.05.18 23:20:00 - [7] this thread is so embarrassing
Tom Peeping	Posted - 2009.05.19 00:44:00 - [8] I use something a little similar, but with a big difference Go with med pulse laser 2's go with a MWD, point, web go with 2 1600 plates, then the 2eanm/dcu2 setup. add armor amount rigs. Takes high skills to fit, but it works like a charm
Commoner Caldari Empire Harassment	Posted - 2009.05.19 09:23:00 - [9] Go look up a guy named Kor Anon, he had great success using a maller with no propulsion mods. (dual web, close range scrambler). He fitted medium pulse lasers and loads of plates in lows. Basically he used it for close range "THINK THIS IS EASY PREY" kills, which is about the only thing the maller is good at.
Fossil Wolf omen. Gay4Life	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:03:00 - [10] [Maller, Armor Buff, Blaster, Scram] 1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Emergency Damage Control I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Small Armor Repairer II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S E5 Prototype Energy Vampire [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Thanks to -5.9 sec status I got a vaga to agro after undocking from station, despite having a drake and two geddons helping him he died and I docked. I stole this fit off the good solo PvPer from PL btw (gento? something like that ) Furthermore by continuing this discussion we detract from the real issue many of us are having with eve online, the lack of break between signature and post content.
Glenzorss	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:22:00 - [11] What about for a low SP character? Anyone know of a good setup, eg T1 laser's etc.
K'Daai Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Glenzorss What about for a low SP character? Anyone know of a good setup, eg T1 laser's etc. [Maller, Sniper] 5x Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I (Microwave M) 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Medium Capacitor Battery II Medium Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II 2x Heat Sink II N-Type Thermic Membrane I N-Type Magnetic Membrane I Swap the tech 2 stuff for their named t1 counterparts if you cant use them yet. Works fine for level 2 missions.
Glenzorss	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:41:00 - [13] I was actually meaning a low SP PVP Setup :)
K'Daai Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.05.19 12:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Glenzorss I was actually meaning a low SP PVP Setup :) [Maller, Low Sp PvP] 5x Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I (Standard M) Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II That should work fairly decent, against other low SP pilots that is or miners/haulers.
Glenzorss	Posted - 2009.05.19 12:07:00 - [15] Originally by: K'Daai Originally by: Glenzorss I was actually meaning a low SP PVP Setup :) [Maller, Low Sp PvP] 5x Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I (Standard M) Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II That should work fairly decent, against other low SP pilots that is or miners/haulers. Looks good, although it will take 11 days for me to train all that.. Is there anything you could lower ? (also is a micro warpdrive any better then a afterburber?)
K'Daai Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.05.19 12:15:00 - [16] Edited by: K''Daai on 19/05/2009 12:20:15 Originally by: Glenzorss Originally by: K'Daai Originally by: Glenzorss I was actually meaning a low SP PVP Setup :) [Maller, Low Sp PvP] 5x Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I (Standard M) Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II That should work fairly decent, against other low SP pilots that is or miners/haulers. Looks good, although it will take 11 days for me to train all that.. Is there anything you could lower ? (also is a micro warpdrive any better then a afterburber?) Well an afterburner boosts your speed by 135% (base boost on tech 2 burners), and a MWD by 500% (base tech 2 mwd). The afterburner is used more in missions and deadspace since MWD doesn't work there and MWD is generally more for pvp since it provides a faster burst of speed for catching up or loosing someone. The catch is that MWD eats capacitor energy a LOT faster and therefore it is used for bursts of speed not sustained use, the afterburner burns much less cap energy but is obviously slower. Like I said just go for the tech 1 named variants of the modules you can not fit, which is probably a good idea if you don't have a lot of money to spare because obviously you have a good chance of getting blown up. Edit cause you edited: Yes it would be but again bear in mind that even with the tech 2 modules this is a low SP setup that is purely a "gank the noobs" ship. It will work with tech 1 modules fine just be careful when and if high SP pirates show up cause you'll be in trouble.
Glenzorss	Posted - 2009.05.20 00:16:00 - [17] Ok, thanks for the replies :) Im looking at the laser's You Picked : 5x Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I (Standard M) Why not go with 5 x 5x Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I - Yes they used 30MW more, a little slower rate of fire, but seems to have 2x the range. or even the Focused Afocal, Focused Modal or Focused modulated ? (Other than the others MAY cost more money) Thanks!
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.05.20 17:52:00 - [18] Seriously why are you guys sticking to lasers? It doesn't get a damage bonus to lasers - think outside the box. Also - I hate giving up the option to dictate range in a cruiser. No propulsion fit cruisers with short/midrange weapons is bad. I don't know about you guys but I like my cruisers to tackle things and my target doesn't always want to come after me. Try my blaster fits above - the medium electron blasters do a decent ammount of dps and still provides a meaningful buffer. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
rogertherabbit	Posted - 2009.05.20 18:05:00 - [19] so much fail in this thread. EANM II EANM II HS II DC II 1600 rt plate 1600 rt plate x5 prototype web x5 prototype web scram II MP II MP II MP II MP II MP II small nos/ neut Fit whatever type of guns you want doesnt matter
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.05.20 18:23:00 - [20] Originally by: rogertherabbit so much fail in this thread. EANM II EANM II HS II DC II 1600 rt plate 1600 rt plate x5 prototype web x5 prototype web scram II MP II MP II MP II MP II MP II small nos/ neut Fit whatever type of guns you want doesnt matter You must be fighting people that want to get in your face all the time. Most times I fight people are running away and I have to chase them down. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.05.20 18:35:00 - [21] You could fit it with a 100MN MWD and use it to bump people off stations and gates [Maller, Malabump] Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Warp Scrambler II Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] 6000 m/s, half the mass of a battleship, Battlecruiser like maneuverability. Downgrade as necessary to keep it super-cheap. -- Don't harsh my mellow
Meridius Dex Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.05.20 18:52:00 - [22] This ship is so utterly fail; I don't know how many hours I've spent over the course of my time in this game, going back and trying to get some kind of viable fit. It really is just one of the worst, most gimped ships in the game (Maller is right up there with it). Having said that, you can do some weird fits if you steadfastly try and think outside the box. You can do OKish damage (450+) and still have a 56K EHP with: [Prophecy, Blaster] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Ion Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Ion Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Ion Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Ion Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Salvager I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 You can take this exact same fit, swap out the blasters for 220 ACs. Your dps drops to around 380, but you get more range/tracking and the grid to fit a T2 medium neut in place of the Salvager (you could also fit a HAM, but the neut would have more utility imo). You can also keep the same tanking mods in the lows and tackling mods in the mids, swap out for FMP IIs/Heat Sinks, which allows you to either go MWD/Salvager(offline) or AB/T2 neut. AN Multis put out great dps and you can switch to Scorch for gang fights where the AB might be a handicap. Good luck with it, though. I still won't fly the thing... -- Meridius Dex Visit the Gunship Forums --
rogertherabbit	Posted - 2009.05.21 10:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Omarvelous You must be fighting people that want to get in your face all the time. Most times I fight people are running away and I have to chase them down. Thats because you gank people who cant fight back. I tend to engage those who can and want to
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.05.21 12:16:00 - [24] Edited by: TraininVain on 21/05/2009 12:17:16 Originally by: Meridius Dex This ship is so utterly fail; I don't know how many hours I've spent over the course of my time in this game, going back and trying to get some kind of viable fit. It really is just one of the worst, most gimped ships in the game (Maller is right up there with it). Having said that, you can do some weird fits if you steadfastly try and think outside the box. You can do OKish damage (450+) and still have a 56K EHP with: [Prophecy, Blaster] snip You can take this exact same fit, swap out the blasters for 220 ACs. Your dps drops to around 380, but you get more range/tracking and the grid to fit a T2 medium neut in place of the Salvager (you could also fit a HAM, but the neut would have more utility imo). You can also keep the same tanking mods in the lows and tackling mods in the mids, swap out for FMP IIs/Heat Sinks, which allows you to either go MWD/Salvager(offline) or AB/T2 neut. AN Multis put out great dps and you can switch to Scorch for gang fights where the AB might be a handicap. Good luck with it, though. I still won't fly the thing... I flew something similar to this the other day. It's surprisingly chewy even with a lot of fire on it (you can get 60k odd EHP out of it) and the DPS is OK. I was thinking for the next one I might try an 800 and Neutrons because I got primaried close enough to last anyway. That pushes the DPS up to 600ish. I thought this was interesting too: http://gallente.factionwars.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3184378

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