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Zarak1 Kenpach1 R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.05.18 23:32:00 - [1] a modest costing faction fit. little under 300mil for the cap relays. [Naglfar, New Setup 1] Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Gyrostabilizer II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II Capital Shield Booster I 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Thor Torpedo I Siege Module I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Garde II x5
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate	Posted - 2009.05.19 01:19:00 - [2] Personally I prefer Naglfail, sounds more catchy ^_^
Renarla	Posted - 2009.05.19 02:18:00 - [3] Edited by: Renarla on 19/05/2009 02:17:45 I'm not much of an expert on Dreads, but... Cap Power Relays + Shield Booster = fail, and 1 damage mod on a dread = fail? Also, it's Failfar. However, on another note, I now have one of those annoying sigs.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.05.19 03:04:00 - [4] Originally by: Renarla Edited by: Renarla on 19/05/2009 02:17:45 I'm not much of an expert on Dreads, but... Cap Power Relays + Shield Booster = fail, and 1 damage mod on a dread = fail? Also, it's Failfar. they give you a lot of cap, use little cpu, and the penalty is stacking nerfed. so not necessarily fail. although more damage mods is probably a better idea.
Bakin Cake	Posted - 2009.05.19 03:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Renarla Edited by: Renarla on 19/05/2009 02:17:45 I'm not much of an expert on Dreads, but... Cap Power Relays + Shield Booster = fail, and 1 damage mod on a dread = fail? Also, it's Failfar. generally if there are more than 3 CPRS in the lows, 1 shield boost amp with more than make up for the boost drawback; the drawback is stacking penalized and the cap recharge bonus is not; while provide a heap-load more cap than using cap rechargers or cap flux coils. its the same logic with chimeras, and shield tanked nids and thannies.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2009.05.19 04:44:00 - [6] It's "Naglol" D-F-C is recruiting
Rivphet	Posted - 2009.05.19 05:10:00 - [7] your all wrong its the Nafailgar
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.05.19 05:13:00 - [8] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Siege Module I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Doom Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Doom Torpedo I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Bouncer II x5
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.05.19 05:56:00 - [9] Originally by: Adeline Grey Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Siege Module I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Doom Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Doom Torpedo I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Bouncer II x5 I believe the whole point was to make it permarun.
Lexa Hellfury SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.19 06:31:00 - [10] Needs more Sensor Booster and Damage Mods.
Mystafyre Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:06:00 - [11] [Naglfar, Siege] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Capital Shield Booster I Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Siege Module I Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit I I'm bored so I played with EFT a bit. That's permarunning fit. Deals 3523 dps (3823 dps with T2 Gardes), volleys are 34261 in siege mode. Omni tank is 9869 dps, lowest against EM damage (7155 dps) and highest against EX damage (14309 dps). Cap is -438.7/+522, stable at 52%. [Naglfar, Gank] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Capital Shield Booster I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Thor Torpedo I Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Siege Module I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Garde II x5 Pure gank fit for lowsec, needs Basilisk to be cap stable if that's needed. Deals 5361 dps (5661 dps with T2 Gardes), volleys are 44761 in siege mode. Omni tank is 12975, lowest against EM damage (11639 dps) and highest against EX damage (15431 dps). Cap is -443.1/+57.5, lasts 2m 20s. Both of these with EFT warrior mode (Level V skills). Just for fun, no clue if these would be usefull at all.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:31:00 - [12] Edited by: Sokratesz on 19/05/2009 08:33:18 After the changes I'd suggest just fitting it for gank and not bothering with a permatank. [Naglfar, gankbuffer] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Capital Shield Booster I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Rift Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Rift Torpedo I Siege Module I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Warden II x5 2.25 mil ehp, 4800 dps, 5250 with faction ammo
Zarak1 Kenpach1 R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.05.19 16:26:00 - [13] Edited by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 on 19/05/2009 16:29:53 you can go 3x gyro if you want to but your only going to be able to burst that tank for 1-2 minutes at time and then have to wait just as long if not longer to get juice back to run it again. yes the relays nerf your boosting somewhat but you gain way more recharge rate than boosting lost. this setup still competes with a revelation dps wise and actively out tanks a rev of comparable stats by a long shot. edit: your wasting your time fitting ballistic control units on this puppy. torp range was nerfed and they cannot hit from 200+ any longer. not to mention torps suck in general compared to dread turret dps. if its going slow enough to get hit by citadel torps(which still wont hit anything short of a tower for full damage), its going slow enough to recieve the full punishment the turrets can let out which is much more real dps. forget what EFT is telling you
Thenoran Caldari Tranquility Industries	Posted - 2009.05.19 16:40:00 - [14] [Naglfar, Errmmm....] Damage Control II Makur's Modified Power Diagnostic System Makur's Modified Power Diagnostic System Makur's Modified Power Diagnostic System Makur's Modified Power Diagnostic System Makur's Modified Power Diagnostic System Capital Shield Booster I Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Defender I <- Fear this Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Defender I <- Fear this Siege Module I Capacitor Control Circuit II Powergrid Subroutine Maximizer II Powergrid Subroutine Maximizer II Ogre II x5 Ogre II x4 Does it have enough fail? ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
prefectro Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.05.20 06:13:00 - [15] Edited by: prefectro on 20/05/2009 06:16:52 Since CCP said they were planning to reduce the skill requirements to use the Capital Shield Booster I plan to wait till they do this (and save me 20 days). I also already have Trimarks on. For now an armor setup works. With the change in bonuses, the value of just putting Gyros is better. As others have said, it is not worth wasting a slot on a missile damage mod. [Naglfar, Basic] Capital Armor Repairer I Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster II Siege Module I Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I And we all know the best name is 'Naglrofl'. Another option is two Sensor Boosters. You can't ever have too much Scan Res.
Lexa Hellfury SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.20 07:15:00 - [16] Originally by: prefectro And we all know the best name is 'Naglrofl'. I prefer Naglmao tbh.
Spenz Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.05.20 08:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Lexa Hellfury Originally by: prefectro And we all know the best name is 'Naglrofl'. I prefer Naglmao tbh. What about Naglolfar? If I had an Alt I would probably post with it...

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