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Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.07.20 05:12:00 - [151]
Cortex Reaver Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.20 20:13:00 - [152] Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 20/07/2009 20:13:59 Originally by: Fille Balle Suggested fix that is already implemented: 1. stop pvp'ing in empire 2. stop playing station games 3. ?????????????????????????? 4. profit! No need for additional fixes. Not supported. You obviously don't understand how this really works. Empire or not has little to do with it.
Ankhra Mainyu	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:21:00 - [153] Supported
Sans Honore Wirfadam Productions LTD	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:31:00 - [154] Supported
Gaven Darklighter	Posted - 2009.07.21 18:05:00 - [155] Although I hate a lot of things about station games, this is going to throw so many other mechanics out of whack. From mission runners to RR gangs, it's going to be more of a pain for people than it will help them. There should be a solution, but this is not it.
Hailey Sunweaver	Posted - 2009.07.21 18:18:00 - [156] supported 100%
Armoured C Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.21 19:02:00 - [157] SUPPORTED support stop selling alliance tourney places post Armoured C forum extrodinare
Pyrostasis Rage Quit Inc	Posted - 2009.07.23 22:40:00 - [158] completely support this idea /signed
Petyr Baelich Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2009.07.24 15:40:00 - [159] +1
Aedeas Veldspar Conglomerate CaLiARr Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.24 16:02:00 - [160] The whole point of being Neutral is saying "I dont want to be involved." Becoming involved invalidates neutrality. Supported. In fact why not go as far as saying that any neutral getting involved in a PvP battle (at least one involving 2 warring parties in Empire) automatically puts the corp into the war, and the necessary war dec/concord messages/fees are automatically sent and the corp goes to war 24 hours later. ---------------------------------

Exie Phantasmal Collective Wicked Nation	Posted - 2009.07.24 17:40:00 - [161] Supported, any external action either assisting or attacking another player should cause aggresion. E... We be Jammin'
Valorous Bob TARSHISH FOUNDATION Insomniacs United	Posted - 2009.07.24 17:49:00 - [162] /signed even though i probably benefit from this not being implemented. _______________________________________________ Originally by: Governor LePetomane You know who I can't stand? Explorers. Smug, invisible bastards.
downies	Posted - 2009.07.24 18:58:00 - [163] 1
Sniper Wolf18 A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.24 19:01:00 - [164] Amidoinitrite? And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now
Lee Dalton Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.24 19:23:00 - [165] Originally by: Aedeas The whole point of being Neutral is saying "I dont want to be involved." Becoming involved invalidates neutrality. Supported. In fact why not go as far as saying that any neutral getting involved in a PvP battle (at least one involving 2 warring parties in Empire) automatically puts the corp into the war, and the necessary war dec/concord messages/fees are automatically sent and the corp goes to war 24 hours later. Exactly - if you want to throw yourself into a fight, fine. But it should actually have consequences and commit you to the fight. *** You're only as good as your last fight.
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.24 19:50:00 - [166] Originally by: Aedeas The whole point of being Neutral is saying "I dont want to be involved." Becoming involved invalidates neutrality. Supported. In fact why not go as far as saying that any neutral getting involved in a PvP battle (at least one involving 2 warring parties in Empire) automatically puts the corp into the war, and the necessary war dec/concord messages/fees are automatically sent and the corp goes to war 24 hours later. So if [for example] I'm a member of Really Big Alliance., and some pissant corp ticks me off, and I see his corp is at war (or I just have an alt corp dec his), I can get a free dec against him by simply RR'ing one of his targets? Aggression timers should be increased to 2 minutes (at least). I dislike neut RR, but its something everyone uses (or would if they had it available), even if they swear on bible/koran/torah/baghavad gita/pasta they wouldn't. I like the way neutral RR works now, so no support here, yet. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Yakumo Smith No End To Infinity Fleetingly Finite	Posted - 2009.07.24 20:24:00 - [167] Supported I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.07.24 23:44:00 - [168] Having experienced this first hand, I know how broken it is. Remote repping should be classed as aggro for the purposes of the dock and jump timer when the target of the rep is engaged. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Pristine Nippletub Pan-Corporate Productions DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.24 23:56:00 - [169] Supported.
Red Katherine Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.07.25 04:12:00 - [170] Edited by: Red Katherine on 25/07/2009 04:11:56 Supported 100%.

JohnHoe GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.07.25 04:41:00 - [171] Awww poor PA is mad because there is something to counter balance their laggy market hub station ***gotry.
Mashashige Eternal Perseverance Flight School	Posted - 2009.07.25 21:07:00 - [172] Originally by: Gaven Darklighter Although I hate a lot of things about station games, this is going to throw so many other mechanics out of whack. From mission runners to RR gangs, it's going to be more of a pain for people than it will help them. There should be a solution, but this is not it. How is that? will a mission runner get ****ed by not being able to dock? OMG WHEN DID THEY CHANGE RATS INTO FIGHTER DRONES? RR on a gate while trying to run away and not getting aggro is also silly, allows the idiots to run when they should die - as for RR anywhere else, I fail to see the impact on it. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, YOU MORON (ingame). as for the offer, supported. ======================================= "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
Gnosis19 Ichizoku	Posted - 2009.07.25 22:07:00 - [173] Supported. -- Gnosis19, CEO, ICHIZOKU Not afraid of -10.0? Apply today.
Miyamoto Isoruku Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.26 09:27:00 - [174] Support, and hurf: http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=4_30&page=2 Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
Xornicon Altair Woopatang Primary.	Posted - 2009.07.26 10:06:00 - [175] I'm in. Vancouver EVE Players Gathering! Click Here for Info!
Rakshasa Taisab Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.26 15:46:00 - [176] Supported, with a possible modification that you don't get the docking/jump timer until after you get shot (while having a repping timer).
steveid Agraphobia	Posted - 2009.07.26 17:06:00 - [177] Edited by: steveid on 26/07/2009 17:07:01 personally i think this is too soft. If you remote rep an enemy under attack, or apply any gang modules to an enemy who's under attack then that enemy should have killrights on you for 7 days. If you get involved in the war you have to be involved imo otherwise wtf is the Yulai convention for?
Xydros	Posted - 2009.07.26 21:14:00 - [178] supported.
Tortugan F9X	Posted - 2009.07.26 22:33:00 - [179] ...You do realize this will continue the killing of small-gang warfare, no? PVP shouldn't always be about who has the bigger blob, and hit and run tactics should be encouraged. PitBoss and supporters, if you want remote reppers to have no escape, then why not fight in a belt? Oh yeah- because then you can't deaggro and dock up if things get nasty :). Personally, I actually enjoy it when people use RR- neutral or not, against me. Reason being, 90% of the time, they end up doing something stupid- they aggress in something I can kill even with RR, they leave themselves open to EWAR, or (my personal favorite) they leave their rep alts in harm's way. This thread was started by The PitBoss,**cutor of empire's premier griefing alliance,** Privateer Alliance. Privateers are good at one thing- griefing. I'm sorry, Pit- you talk a lot about neutral remote rep abuse- but when was the last time you fought outnumbered (including all participating ships, RR or otherwise) against someone who actually had a fathom of experience in PVP? I'm sorry if you missed out on a couple mining barge kills because their buddies were generous enough to help them get out of Jita. And I'm sorry if you've lost a few ships to Wildly Inappropriate because your 'PVP' alliance is too disorganized and divided to learn to work as a team. The current game mechanic supports teamwork (between corp mates, alliance mates, and just friends you meet in the game), guerrilla warfare (you can hit and run when heavily outnumbered, and force your opponent to adopt a different PVP strategy than just the bigger blob wins), and the element of surprise and danger that Eve is known for. Pit, why not just bring anti-RR support? It ain't that hard. Let's consider the circumstances that recently took place- Privs decced WI- about 5 members of WI were interested in fighting, and between us, we had maybe 5 more friends/alts who'd help out as needed. That's 10 total versus an alliance of 200+, and you were still unwilling to fight because you couldn't work together to come up with an adequate counter to our strategies. Would it make a difference if all 10 of us were in alliance? Why don't you just bring 10 DPS ships and 190 remote rep ships? Find your own counters to remote rep. We have :) tl;dr: Quit whining and find counters to it- there are plenty. ---- Need Mercenaries? Contact me in-game to hire Internal Anarchy. Killboard
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.26 23:12:00 - [180] Edited by: The PitBoss on 26/07/2009 23:13:00 Originally by: Tortugan ... Yap Yap Yap ... I was waiting for one of the KINGS of RRing for cheap kills to open his yap ... No Offense but you said it yourself: Originally by: Private Chat [ 2009.07.12 08:39:46 ] The PitBoss > any particular reason your helping that douche bag? [ 2009.07.12 08:43:29 ] Tortugan > Don't mean to sound like a douche- but I'm looking for pew- and seems like RRing a losing battle is the way to find it around here :) [ 2009.07.12 08:43:49 ] The PitBoss > till they fix the mechanic [ 2009.07.12 08:44:25 ] Tortugan > Even then- it'll just get sneakier tbh This is the EXACT reason why I brought up this ISSUE ... Stop hiding behind the facade that its going to kill small gangs ... If you the had skills you wouldn't need to rely on 5 alt accounts Thank-You, The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss) Signatures by: Kalen Vox



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