What would the easiest ship to train in to that could beat a Tengu solo?

Any strategies or fittings that would accomplish this?

Thank you

I would say a Legion should be fine for this job. Let me check the list:

• Need a ship faster than Tengu: check, for active tanked version.
• Need a ship that can break active tank with neutralizers: check with proper Subsystem and Neutralizer
• Need EMP damage to use Tengu-Weakness: check, Lazors are perfect for this job.
• Need good tank against Kinetic Damage: check

What would the easiest ship to train in to that could beat a Tengu solo?

Any strategies or fittings that would accomplish this?

Thank you

another tengu?

Tengu vs. Tengu is a cripplefight.

Bhaalgorn is also incredibly dangerous to a tengu, since your webs and neuts are pretty much the same range as his point.

Proteus will make Tengu cry.
Considering u get into optimal range fast enough.

Proteus will make Tengu cry.
Considering u get into optimal range fast enough.

...and THAT is why your proteus dies.

The Loki have all the important features, assuming both ships are 100mn variants.

The speed.
The webs.
The tank.
The EM-output on a turret.

All the other Tech III are functional in armor-configs, just be weary of the HAM-Legion, since missile-on-missile over mitigation fits will turn into a never ending slapfight.

What most people tend to forget about the Tengu is that it has the weakest offensive to it's own kind of defensive. Tengus will kill anything that's not fit to deal with HML while relying on HML or BS-turrets themselves (which account for 90% of current trends). That's why the unimaginative complain about Tengus.

That's also why most other 100mn setups beat Tengus, since it can never overcome it's dumbfire accuracy to a tank made to counter just that. That goes for solo as well as for various gang comps that have not been tried well enough, yet. Assuming both sides begin webbing and controlling each other, all other weapon systems will begin connecting earlier (which applies to the accuracy mechanics in general, not just with 100mn).

I've seen a tengu killed by a solo trasher. Bad fit and moronic pilot.

It all depends on the tengu's fit and catching it.

Sure a bhaalgorn or a vindicator or machariel would **** one but no thinking tengu pilot would engage those ships so it's hardly worth considering unless you have someone else for tackle.

Ideally you'd want to catch one on a bubble to start the fight at close range and put a scram and 2 webs on it. And neuts. An armor cane would be ideal and I've seen a couple tengu kills from them just blast emp through that gaping hole.

Why would the fight always start so far away and with Tengu's applied dps, there is no hurry really.

Catching a 100MN AB Tengu is relatively easy with an MWD Proteus with faction web, but you need a webber drone to hold the tackle, and that is easily popped. Soon we get light webber drones, which will be standard accessory on every Proteus, and they are much harder to kill with missiles... and Proteus has enough space for at least two flights of them in addition to combat & ECM drones.

MWD Tengu has a very thin margin of error due to Proteus' extended scram range.

However breaking a pimped Tengu tank with blasters is the real issue, and a buffer Proteus struggles to do it solo. Active tanked Proteus is unkillable by solo Tengu as well.

Buffer Proteus vs kiting Tengu is a very long fight, which Tengu eventually wins, but Proteus is free to leave before that happens. Tengus are very weak against ECM drones.

Trackind disruptors will soon affect missiles, and this might bring the Tengu in balance, but I'd still like to see a dps nerf. Currently it is harder to kill than other ships in game, while having supreme damage projection- 700dps at 110km that always hits at full damage to any BC+ hull is a bit rich.

Bait dardevil, warp in bhaalg. Tengus love small frigates.