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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.06.09 23:54:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Mike C
Tried it earlier, and apparently Strategic Cruisers with the covert subsystem can use a Black Ops' jump portal. Is this a bug, feature or "unintended feature"?
It's a feature, which was already pointed out earlier in this thread (as well as like 5,000 other threads). You are like officially the last player to discover this. |
Vecila
Live and Learn Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.10 08:36:00 -
[32]
Be fair, it says it can cyno and it can't, it doesn't say it can jump but it can. Who writes item discretions  |
Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:27:00 -
[33]
Well no ship which can use the portal states as much in the description :P Any ship with Jump Harmonics 2 is Covert Jump Bridgable, the Covert Reconfig Sub-system grants the Jump Harmonics 2 attribute. fin |
ollobrains
THORN Syndicate
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.06.11 01:34:00 -
[34]
Its a good feature to
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Witchking
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:38:00 -
[35]
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
we actually don't mind the subsystem having the ability to fit a covert cyno. The issue we encountered was our use of new fitting restrictions was never really meant for subsystems and we have to wait for code changes to allow that happen or revert the covert cyno back to using a good old cpu based fitting restriction.
I appreciate your reply here, thankyou. I hope to see this feature fixed soon.
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Lijhal
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.06.26 12:18:00 -
[36]
could you (ccp) please consider to add to every covert t3 subsystem 25 m3 drone bw and 25 m3 drone cargo ?
i believe this would give the subsystem apart from the cloaking device and only 1 bonus to weapons another "good" reason to fit and use them
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Abyss Wyrm
Caldari
Sleepers Discovery
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:48:00 -
[37]
Yes, plz, make T3s with covert subsytem able to fit covert cyno. Tis very critical issue for me.
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Abyss Wyrm
Caldari
Talocan Discovery
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:49:00 -
[38]
So, will you actualy bring ability to co-ops reconfig systems to fit covert cyno?
And if yes, then it will happen?
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Keigari
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:03:00 -
[39]
so why do all races get a damage bonus on the covert offensive subsystem, making them still viable and the amarr only a lousy cap reduction? will this be fixed in 1.5 that amarr got crappy subsystem bonuses because cap reduction is totally useless
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Abyss Wyrm
Caldari
Takmahl discovry
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:21:00 -
[40]
btw yes...
Rebalance amarr cover ops subsystem.
Give them at least 5% to damage instead of that lammy 10% to cap reduction... although 5% to RoF would be better)
And again, plz bring back ability to fit co-ops cyno...
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Rooky2001
Black-Wing
Empire of Serenity
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Posted - 2009.07.15 08:39:00 -
[41]
yep, bring +5% DMG for Amarr too.
10% Cap Reduction is worthless in a era of cap booster and faction cap booster (soon).
So fix it.
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Witchking
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:07:00 -
[42]
Never forget.
Make it like you promised initially ccp, and said you wanted.
Fix it so t3 ships with the covert subsystem can light covert cynos.
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capn gump
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.15 11:49:00 -
[43]
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
we actually don't mind the subsystem having the ability to fit a covert cyno. The issue we encountered was our use of new fitting restrictions was never really meant for subsystems and we have to wait for code changes to allow that happen or revert the covert cyno back to using a good old cpu based fitting restriction.
Has this even been looked at or has it gone into the too hard basket?
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xttz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.15 18:34:00 -
[44]
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
we actually don't mind the subsystem having the ability to fit a covert cyno. The issue we encountered was our use of new fitting restrictions was never really meant for subsystems and we have to wait for code changes to allow that happen or revert the covert cyno back to using a good old cpu based fitting restriction.
(1) Add a 'Covert Strategic Cruiser' ship type.
(2) Adjust covert cynogens to include that ship type in their 'can be fitted to' stats.
(3) Allow use of covert jump portal by that ship type too
(4) When fitting the appropriate subsystem, a 'Strategic Cruiser' will have it's type changed to 'Covert Strategic Cruiser' in the same manner that subsystems alter its other stats.
(5) ???
(6) Profit
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Pirate McTackler
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:06:00 -
[45]
Quote:
we actually don't mind the subsystem having the ability to fit a covert cyno. The issue we encountered was our use of new fitting restrictions was never really meant for subsystems and we have to wait for code changes to allow that happen or revert the covert cyno back to using a good old cpu based fitting restriction.
I seem to remember a CCP dev having in their forum signature: 'If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid.'
If you have to make a single exception for this mechanic until you can make a proper fix, it keeps the intended mechanic of T3 covert cynos intact and if anything gives you some time until you can make a correct and proper fix to the restrictions. So even if you do end up dragging your feet about it (which happens- seeing all of the work going into an expansion at an EVE event this year the load on your devs can be dizzying at best) then that's okay, because these items will still be operating as intended.
Rather than, say, be gimped by restrictions in code that you already have a workaround for, thus defeating the intent of your own game design and balance teams.
Once it's hotfixed, drop it into the to-do basket, don't leave it sitting there broken. I'm sure you could ninja-hotfix this in part of your Dominion roll-out.
Just my .02 ISK.
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Sith LordX
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:55:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Jita Johnny
Thank God for this, because otherwise black ops BS would become dangerous overpowered
Don't bring your god into this, your god had nothing to do with it, CCP did. CCP is my true real god. 
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capn gump
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.23 23:34:00 -
[47]
With the interdiction nullifier sub-system being fixed, can this one please get some love as well?
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Witchking
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.25 11:36:00 -
[48]
guys this continues to be something glaringly broken in the game please fix it.
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Sacrificial Lamb
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.11.10 22:51:00 -
[49]
Any news if this is being fixed in Dominion?
PS: Necro FTW, but it had to be asked :)
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Turrican
Baptism oF Fire
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.11.11 12:49:00 -
[50]
Imagine all the new tactics and fights this would open up instead of boring gate camps?
Please, please tell us this is being fixed in Dominion :)
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.11 13:37:00 -
[51]
i would think this is incoming unless ccp gets a case of whine itis and beleives its to overpowered and pulls it all itme will tell
Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.11.11 14:47:00 -
[52]
Again would be awesome.
/signed give T3 the cyno
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DNSBLACK
Gallente
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 14:54:00 -
[53]
/Sign Please get this done
Still waiting for this change ot happen. I think the major issue by doing this the ships by pass the recon class ship having this ability and there would be no need to train into that class.
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.11.11 15:08:00 -
[54]
Originally by: DNSBLACK
/Sign Please get this done
Still waiting for this change ot happen. I think the major issue by doing this the ships by pass the recon class ship having this ability and there would be no need to train into that class.
One reason
Price.
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Turrican
Baptism oF Fire
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.11.12 12:18:00 -
[55]
Originally by: DNSBLACK
/Sign Please get this done
Still waiting for this change ot happen. I think the major issue by doing this the ships by pass the recon class ship having this ability and there would be no need to train into that class.
T3 ships do this in many other specialist areas, but most come with a compromise other than the usual DPS/EHP decision.
EG: Fleet Command Ships, assuming you already have the basic piloting skills, you get more overall Boost Percentage, but can only fit one Gang Link in a t3 without gimping your fit. Its not a bad compromise considering Command Ships 5 is 20+ days and Defensive Subsystem 5 is about 5 days.....
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Master Hu
Caldari
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2009.11.12 16:42:00 -
[56]
The T3 ships should be able to use the covert cyno as they were intended when they first came out. Sure they can jump through the portal but the should be known as the hunter's that they were intended to be.
Also, why have a Black Ops battleship that can't use a covert op's cloak? Who came up with that brilliant idea? They should be able to use the covert op's cloak.
Thanks
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Wesly Slayden
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Posted - 2009.11.13 03:57:00 -
[57]
Why would you include a covert-opps module w/o letting the ship use the covert-sino generator I mean a bomber and the covert opps ships can carry them so it is not a matter of size or power. Its just plain silly not to let the strategic cruisers w/ the cov-opps module do it as well.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.11.13 11:27:00 -
[58]
I'm guessing some of you folks missed the response from CCP just above, stating that they want to allow the T3 ships to use the covert cyno, but the game doesn't allow allocating the "can fit covert cyno" property to a T3 subsystem - the "can be fitted by ship class X" property relates to entire ship classes.
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Turrican
Baptism oF Fire
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.11.13 23:45:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Mara Rinn
I'm guessing some of you folks missed the response from CCP just above, stating that they want to allow the T3 ships to use the covert cyno, but the game doesn't allow allocating the "can fit covert cyno" property to a T3 subsystem - the "can be fitted by ship class X" property relates to entire ship classes.
The real question (still) is, "Is this getting fixed in Dominion?"
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.14 00:17:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Master Hu
Also, why have a Black Ops battleship that can't use a covert op's cloak? Who came up with that brilliant idea? They should be able to use the covert op's cloak.
CCP didn't want the BO to be solopownmobiles to ambush people. I mean, a cov ops cloaked BS would be a nightmare in Empire (wardecs, etc.).
BO are logistic tools, not gunships.
IMHO, the T3 ships should fit covert cynos. That would not make them better than Covert Ops frigates, since they are 50 times more expensive for the same role. And Force Recons still have a cyno duration bonus that makes them more adapted for cyno lighting than Strategic Cruisers.
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Fulbert.
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