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Reangorette Bianie
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:11:00 -
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The story goes that back in the early days even before gate guns a bunch of players decided to decend on Yulai (which was then what Jita is today -- another interesting story) and blow up the station. The devs hearing of this got into their ships to teach them a lesson.
End result, players 1 devs 0. The created such havoc that the server was down quite a while to fix the damage. So every time I hear about one of these "why is it bannable" things I think of this story and what it might be like if there wasn't a definite way to stop the inventiveness of players from evading game mechanics.
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.05.21 18:53:00 -
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Seriously, they should give Concord the same ai that the sleepers have, and tune their ships majorly down. Let anyone actually try to fight them. With some luck, you might get away with a crime. Or then again, lose your properly fitted (as opposed to what people use for suicide ganking) ship when you got bad luck. Risk vs reward, and more realistic. Forbid the nasty people from docking and have them run for their lives for the next 15 minutes could be excellent 
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.21 18:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Suey Syder
Edited by: Suey Syder on 21/05/2009 10:15:40
Originally by: Blane Xero
Please. Do your research and realise wormholes give you a big ass NO when you try jumping through with concord on your ass
So wormholes are sentient enough to decline someone with a gcc in hisec? Kinda like pulsars having moral objections to eating animals or supernovae frowning on spouse abuse.
I dunno the specifics but if concord is hunting you, you cannot activate a wormhole. Try it on SiSi, much less expensive there.
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Another Forum'Alt
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:01:00 -
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CONCORD exist to give differences in sec status.
Also for RPers but nobody cares about them.
BECAUSE OF FALCON.
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Killer Gandry
Caldari
Red Horizon Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.21 20:31:00 -
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Cause the owner of the game says it is.
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irion felpamy
Minmatar
HellJumpers Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.22 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One
What you suggest is very practical, and I assume doable from a technical point of view .. but ..
Giving CONCORD such in-explicable technology would through off a number of things.
Such technology would beg an explanation, given CONCORD is made up of empire factions - how does CONCORD get such technology when the empire factions don't? Worse, how does empire get such technology when the Sleepers and the Jove don't?
Some who play this game enjoy the almost believable reality, a consistent back story and etc.
So making CONCORD go through the motions of doing damage to an aggressor not only contributes to a belief in the reality of EVE as a virtual place, but it is also in-line with the backstory.
Is this a troll or did you really not read the background for concord then make a post on how it is nonsense?
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Tekutep
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:06:00 -
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Personally, I don't have a problem with CONCORD being inescapable. I don't mind knowing that it's an absolute certainty I will lose my ship if I perform a criminal action in highsec.
Banning me from the game because I actually tried, though, is an ill-conceived notion.
"Special note: Evading Concord's wrath is an exploit." is the stated policy in a helpfile outside the game. Not the most easily found, but ok.
"Scenario:
You accidentally fire on a player and CONCORD takes out your ship. You dock in your pod, change ships and head out to collect your items in the cargo container. As soon as you undock, a CONCORD ship kills you again...."
Based on the way it's written, then wouldn't docking up to avoid losing another ship also be technically avoiding their wrath, and thus be a bannable offense? It almost sounds like the very example they're recommending would technically get you banned.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tekutep
Banning me from the game because I actually tried, though, is an ill-conceived notion.
Trying won't get you banned. Succeeding will… 
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Malloway
PAIN AND PLEASURE LLC
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Posted - 2009.05.22 19:28:00 -
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I have to agree with the OP. Having the CONCORD delay increase in time with lower security systems (0.6, 0.5) gives players the illusion and temptation to try to escape them. I know everyone says its all about immersion, and I respect that, but in real life if someone walks into the Administrative Maximum Facility and shoots a prisoner, they still have a very very VERY small chance to escape right? Also from what I've heard, the only thing that can "out run" CONCORD is either a speed fitted 'cpter or a shuttle. Considering neither ships do that much damage, if any at all, that makes it impossible to actually do harm to another and get away with it.
I'm placing my 2 cents on the side of the OP. If you actually do get away from CONCORD you shouldn't get baned ... and huge props to anyone who successfully does.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.22 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Malloway
Having the CONCORD delay increase in time with lower security systems (0.6, 0.5) gives players the illusion and temptation to try to escape them.
Not really, no, unless you are completely unfamiliar with the GCC mechanics (in which case you'll learn after the first attempt).
The delay is there for a reason: to allow for suicide ganks. Immersion isn't really a consideration.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.22 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 22/05/2009 19:33:08
^^ no, it just says "You can try and run, but you wont, and if you somehow do through some small miracle, you will be banned"
There is no way to escape death from concord. You cannot tank them. You cannot outrun them. You cannot jump out using a blackops. You cannot jump out using wormholes/gates.
CONCORD will punish you for wrongdoing, but they wont stop you from doing wrong. Thats the point. Suicide ganking needs to stay feasable, and delays make this possible. Instant "Break the law you go boom" not only makes no sense RP wise, but stops suicide ganking completely.
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