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HITANDRUN	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:33:00 - [1] I wasn't sure where to post this at, so this looked like a good spot. My question is as the title implies, can Secure cans be destroyed? I have numerous people say no, some say yes but would like an official response on this if at all possible. Can someone post some stats on Secure Containers from small to giant in regards to dmg to take one out? One person had mentioned to me that a Giant Secure Container has around 10mil hitpoints to blow one up. That's like what ,10 Player owned stations worth of shielding? I understand they are secure and should not be able to pop easily but c'mon 10million hitpoints, that's simply crazy! In empire sectors where secure containers can be anchored down to .5 will trigger a response from Concord if they are shot at, so that is not a problem. In empire sectors where secure containers can be anchored from .4 ~ .1 will give you a security hit, plus criminally flag you, maybe even give you some sentry gun loving. I don't see a problem there either. If someone anchors a Giant Secure Container in 0.0, is there any chance in H3LL that you can blow it up, and if so how many Apocs would it take and for how long? Does anyone with experience in taking out Giant Secure Containers, have some advice? Thanks, Hitandrun
HITANDRUN	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:33:00 - [2] I wasn't sure where to post this at, so this looked like a good spot. My question is as the title implies, can Secure cans be destroyed? I have numerous people say no, some say yes but would like an official response on this if at all possible. Can someone post some stats on Secure Containers from small to giant in regards to dmg to take one out? One person had mentioned to me that a Giant Secure Container has around 10mil hitpoints to blow one up. That's like what ,10 Player owned stations worth of shielding? I understand they are secure and should not be able to pop easily but c'mon 10million hitpoints, that's simply crazy! In empire sectors where secure containers can be anchored down to .5 will trigger a response from Concord if they are shot at, so that is not a problem. In empire sectors where secure containers can be anchored from .4 ~ .1 will give you a security hit, plus criminally flag you, maybe even give you some sentry gun loving. I don't see a problem there either. If someone anchors a Giant Secure Container in 0.0, is there any chance in H3LL that you can blow it up, and if so how many Apocs would it take and for how long? Does anyone with experience in taking out Giant Secure Containers, have some advice? Thanks, Hitandrun
Eugene Spencer	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:38:00 - [3] Someone posted on our Xetic Forums that it would take like 5 hours for an apoc maxed with lasers to kill a giant secure container. they CAN be destroyed - but i dont have any stats or them. Maybe try eve-i.com - they might have the stats there www.gumpcom.com
Eugene Spencer	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:38:00 - [4] Someone posted on our Xetic Forums that it would take like 5 hours for an apoc maxed with lasers to kill a giant secure container. they CAN be destroyed - but i dont have any stats or them. Maybe try eve-i.com - they might have the stats there www.gumpcom.com
HITANDRUN	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:40:00 - [5] Thx , I'll take a look there!
HITANDRUN	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:40:00 - [6] Thx , I'll take a look there!
Doctor Evil	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:44:00 - [7] I would love to know too. I have some enemy cans to destroy Buhahahah Thanks Master Mind Doctor Evil Mess with DAMOB it will cost you!! 1 {pause} Billion Dollars to repair. Imperium Alliance rocks
Doctor Evil	Posted - 2004.09.08 16:44:00 - [8] I would love to know too. I have some enemy cans to destroy Buhahahah Thanks Master Mind Doctor Evil Mess with DAMOB it will cost you!! 1 {pause} Billion Dollars to repair. Imperium Alliance rocks
dabster	Posted - 2004.09.08 17:26:00 - [9] Giant secures have 10mill hp, it shows if you have one in your hangar and look at it under the repair tab. So yea it takes a while but is very doable :) ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
dabster	Posted - 2004.09.08 17:26:00 - [10] Giant secures have 10mill hp, it shows if you have one in your hangar and look at it under the repair tab. So yea it takes a while but is very doable :) ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's

Harry Voyager	Posted - 2004.09.08 19:05:00 - [11] Edited by: Harry Voyager on 08/09/2004 19:06:35 Doable in a theoretical sence. However, from a practical standpoint, it never happens. I am certainly hoping that player owned structures won't be that difficult to destroy in Shiva. The prospect of a fleet of Gankagheddons taking several hours to kill one structure seems decidedly unpleasent. Harry Voyager
Harry Voyager	Posted - 2004.09.08 19:05:00 - [12] Edited by: Harry Voyager on 08/09/2004 19:06:35 Doable in a theoretical sence. However, from a practical standpoint, it never happens. I am certainly hoping that player owned structures won't be that difficult to destroy in Shiva. The prospect of a fleet of Gankagheddons taking several hours to kill one structure seems decidedly unpleasent. Harry Voyager
Cantryyp	Posted - 2004.09.10 02:53:00 - [13] Scary thought: the invention of armor / hull leeches. Drop a secure, you're invincible :)
Cantryyp	Posted - 2004.09.10 02:53:00 - [14] Scary thought: the invention of armor / hull leeches. Drop a secure, you're invincible :)
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.09.10 02:59:00 - [15] no such thing as a physicial matter leach, only energy things etc, however they have nan****es or something to fix peoples hulls remotley, wonder if they could be set to destroy mode im stil waiting for duct tape to become a skil and trade item so i cna put on the mods that wont fit and more importantly cover my hull in scure cans __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.09.10 02:59:00 - [16] no such thing as a physicial matter leach, only energy things etc, however they have nan****es or something to fix peoples hulls remotley, wonder if they could be set to destroy mode im stil waiting for duct tape to become a skil and trade item so i cna put on the mods that wont fit and more importantly cover my hull in scure cans __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
Skelator	Posted - 2004.09.10 03:05:00 - [17] Whats the Matter Old Friend The Named Container outside your station starting to get to you They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards
Skelator	Posted - 2004.09.10 03:05:00 - [18] Whats the Matter Old Friend The Named Container outside your station starting to get to you They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards
HITANDRUN	Posted - 2004.09.15 13:47:00 - [19] Not at all mate! I just think 10mil hitpoints to a Giant secure container is retarded, thats all. Hell, you won't see me spending 4-6 hours trying to blow up a can, cause that isn't very exciting or fun! Maybe I will be stopping by to pay your corp a visit soon and annoy the hell out of you! Originally by: Skelator Whats the Matter Old Friend The Named Container outside your station starting to get to you
HITANDRUN	Posted - 2004.09.15 13:47:00 - [20] Not at all mate! I just think 10mil hitpoints to a Giant secure container is retarded, thats all. Hell, you won't see me spending 4-6 hours trying to blow up a can, cause that isn't very exciting or fun! Maybe I will be stopping by to pay your corp a visit soon and annoy the hell out of you! Originally by: Skelator Whats the Matter Old Friend The Named Container outside your station starting to get to you

dabster	Posted - 2004.09.15 15:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Harry Voyager Edited by: Harry Voyager on 08/09/2004 19:06:35 Doable in a theoretical sence. However, from a practical standpoint, it never happens. Oh yea it does ;) ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
dabster	Posted - 2004.09.15 15:19:00 - [22] Originally by: Harry Voyager Edited by: Harry Voyager on 08/09/2004 19:06:35 Doable in a theoretical sence. However, from a practical standpoint, it never happens. Oh yea it does ;) ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
Mara Nobars	Posted - 2004.09.15 22:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Eugene Spencer Someone posted on our Xetic Forums that it would take like 5 hours for an apoc maxed with lasers to kill a giant secure container. Of course, that also works out to 20 Apocs spending 15 minutes to take one out ... quite the fireworks show!
Mara Nobars	Posted - 2004.09.15 22:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Eugene Spencer Someone posted on our Xetic Forums that it would take like 5 hours for an apoc maxed with lasers to kill a giant secure container. Of course, that also works out to 20 Apocs spending 15 minutes to take one out ... quite the fireworks show!


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