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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.05.23 02:15:00 -
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I am posting to acknowledge and announce that James Tundra is acting as a personal broker between myself and an additional, unspecified party, volunteering to hold the sum of one billion ISK until the terms of my contract are completed. I expect he will be posting on this thread as soon as he is able.
-L
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James Tundra
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Posted - 2009.05.23 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: James Tundra on 23/05/2009 02:26:34 1 Billion isk recieved.
Holding as broker between Lecherito and an unspecified entity.
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glas mir
Reaction Scientific
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Posted - 2009.05.23 02:31:00 -
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good luck with the bet.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.05.23 07:51:00 -
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As an afterthought, I just wanted to remind everyone that JT and I are both members of TMP. The other party for which JT is brokering is aware of this, and has expressed no quarrels in regards to it.
-L
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Rudy Gnarl
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.05.23 08:47:00 -
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This is brokerage for a bet. Nice, a billion isk bet . . . is there way we can be privy to any details of the bet, if indeed there is one? --- Am I being targeted, wait, ahh, they're all red now! Why won't it warp, it's not responding. Okay warp to zero. Damn it my pod too. F*****g lag! [lesson learned: log for lag] |

Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.05.23 08:50:00 -
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Bet? You reckon yourself a clever bloke, huh?
-L
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.05.23 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito Bet? You reckon yourself a clever bloke, huh?
-L
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.23 09:34:00 -
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I'm confused as to why this is posted here.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador I'm confused as to why this is posted here.
Me too.
To me, it certainly looks like nothing more than an attempt at getting some cheap credit, by brokering a corp-mates transaction.
And the fact that no fee is charged, as well as the fact that it's with an unknown party, just stinks.
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Saehta
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Posted - 2009.05.23 10:40:00 -
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It serves no purpose.
It is obviously trying to begin to give Tundra credit as a broker but it still serves no purpose based on information presented
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.05.23 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista To me, it certainly looks like nothing more than an attempt at getting some cheap credit, by brokering a corp-mates transaction.
Obligatory Scooby-Doo quote: "And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
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Callista Sincera
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Posted - 2009.05.23 11:36:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1079383
Might shed some light on it.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Callista Sincera http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1079383
Might shed some light on it.
Nice find.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:20:00 -
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You sleuths you! This thread exists as a public record of dealings of the three parties involved. It has been used as such in past, and will continued to be used for that purpose in the future. JT just joined TMP, and it is not because of our corporate relationship that I thought to trust him with funds.
-L
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito This thread exists as a public record of dealings of the three parties involved.
Only two parties are mentioned here and the 'record' consists of nothing except the claim that one person is allegedly holding 1B isk for a corpmate. Big deal.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito You sleuths you! This thread exists as a public record of dealings of the three parties involved. It has been used as such in past, and will continued to be used for that purpose in the future. JT just joined TMP, and it is not because of our corporate relationship that I thought to trust him with funds.
-L
I don't believe that a Market Discussion forum ever was ever intended for keeping public record of personal dealings.
So why was this post created? Why do everybody need to know about it? What interest do we have in that?
More important what interest do the involved parties have, in everybody know about it?
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista More important what interest do the involved parties have, in everybody know about it?
My guess it is a misguided attempt at gaining trust, and it is achieving exactly the opposite.
There are few people on this forum who are too eager to establish themselves. What they fail to understand is that there's no quick way to 'establishment' and that any shortcuts will be held against them.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
My guess it is a misguided attempt at gaining trust, and it is achieving exactly the opposite.
There are few people on this forum who are too eager to establish themselves. What they fail to understand is that there's no quick way to 'establishment' and that any shortcuts will be held against them.
Which is exactly what my question implied.
But at least it was spelled out, even if I would have loved to see any of the involved parties try and answer that exact question.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Estel Arador
My guess it is a misguided attempt at gaining trust, and it is achieving exactly the opposite.
There are few people on this forum who are too eager to establish themselves. What they fail to understand is that there's no quick way to 'establishment' and that any shortcuts will be held against them.
Which is exactly what my question implied.
But at least it was spelled out, even if I would have loved to see any of the involved parties try and answer that exact question.
then give them more than 15 minutes to reply.... 
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed"
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
then give them more than 15 minutes to reply.... 
They are still more than welcome to try and convince me that it's not the case.
However, Estel kinda ruined it.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista However, Estel kinda ruined it.
Sorry about that, I got a bit ahead myself because the answers they'd give to your question are quite predictable.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ji Sama
then give them more than 15 minutes to reply.... 
They are still more than welcome to try and convince me that it's not the case.
However, Estel kinda ruined it.
you want an answer for a question, they dont have to convince you of anything!
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed"
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: LaVista Vista However, Estel kinda ruined it.
Sorry about that, I got a bit ahead myself because the answers they'd give to your question are quite predictable.
Well, if the intention of the post is what I would expect, the answer would indeed be predictable.
However I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and let me convince me otherwise still.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.05.23 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Lecherito on 23/05/2009 13:54:43 I find it interesting that that the celebrated "who's who" of the MD community are the first and most vocal when it comes to shooting down any sort of enterprise that escapes their questionably large realm of influence. LVV, I'm not really sure who you are or what you've done, but you seem to be one such individual, and I trust it is for this reason that you feel entitled to a response of your poorly worded, grammatically incorrect question?
And the comment about individuals trying too hard, too quickly to establish themselves...vat? Is there a certain amount of time one must wait before taking an active role in MD affairs? If so, I reckon that should be made a sticky, yah? Ironically, I'm pretty sure I know just who might be called upon to come up with such "rules" =P.
JT was agreed to be an acceptable broker by both myself and the party with which I am working (see link above). A post was created to reflect that understanding. Publicity is a means to combat duplicity, some might say. Count me in among that school of thought. Is there anything else of which the Divine Marketeers disapprove? =P
-L
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Zero Uptick
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Posted - 2009.05.23 13:58:00 -
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heh
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.05.23 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito I find it interesting that that the celebrated "who's who" of the MD community are the first and most vocal when it comes to shooting down any sort of enterprise that escapes their questionably large realm of influence. LVV, I'm not really sure who you are or what you've done, but you seem to be one such individual, and I trust it is for this reason that you feel entitled to a response of your poorly worded, grammatically incorrect question?
English is not his first language. He's also done more for this community than most, do your research before posting in here and attacking the regulars. And yes, we are vocal, it's our community and we try to protect it from the obvious pretenders such as yourself.
Originally by: Lecherito And the comment about individuals trying too hard, too quickly to establish themselves...vat? Is there a certain amount of time one must wait before taking an active role in MD affairs? If so, I reckon that should be made a sticky, yah? Ironically, I'm pretty sure I know just who might be called upon to come up with such "rules" =P.
If you need to ask you're obviously not fit to be deemed worthy. Reputation is everything in here, there is no golden formula for it. Also, your smarmy arrogance is befitting to someone that has no reputation, and is unlikely to ever have any.
Originally by: Lecherito JT was agreed to be an acceptable broker by both myself and the party with which I am working (see link above). A post was created to reflect that understanding. Publicity is a means to combat duplicity, some might say. Count me in among that school of thought.
No one cares about what you do on internet spaceships, so why do you feel the need to update us on your antics?
Originally by: Lecherito Is there anything else of which the Divine Marketeers disapprove? =P
I don't like your face and you smell funny.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.23 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito
I find it interesting that that the celebrated "who's who" of the MD community are the first and most vocal when it comes to shooting down any sort of enterprise that escapes their questionably large realm of influence. LVV, I'm not really sure who you are or what you've done, but you seem to be one such individual, and I trust it is for this reason that you feel entitled to a response of your poorly worded, grammatically incorrect question?
I'm going to try and ignore this silly insult. This isn't CAOD. So leave that attitude at the door, please.
If you had taken up the question which I asked, and actually made a better case for why this matters, beyond trying to get "credits" with the community, then you could have justified this thread.
Please notice that I have no interest in shooting down any kinds of businesses. I keep away from doing that kind of things.
However, in this case, it's my belief that this thread creates a bad tastes in most people's mouth. Maybe I'm just a bitter old "veteran"(I have nothing on Ricidic et al). But I think that this thread has quite the opposite effect. So rather than some troll coming around ripping you guys apart, I had hoped that you would be quick to get the idea and not do more damage to your own names than needed be.
How should this have been done then? Well, for starters, creating a "public record" by creating a whole new thread is no good. However it's entirely reasonable AND relevant to point out such acts of brokerage for James, in his very own thread. That's where it's relevant, because it matters to his investors.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.05.23 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Selene D''Celeste on 23/05/2009 14:07:16 Ray is my favorite.
Edit: LVV ninja-posted on me. So he get props too.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.23 14:12:00 -
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Hmm i was actually thinking that it was a bit uncalled for. But your bringing it on yourself now Lecherito. Lvv has in fact done so much for the community as a whole, especially in his role as CSM. While i do agree that the arguments could have been brought fourth a bit more constructive and a lot less, "we are teh leets" tone.. They do bring fourth a fair point. That being said, im all for public announcement. Perhaps this was a bit on the smaller side, and should perhaps have been put into JT own investment thread, i still agree that its somewhat justified to announce the brokerage, especially if JT wants to make a name for himself. But yes, to much, to soon to fast.... imho... :D
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"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed"
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Krathos Morpheus
Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.05.23 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito I find it interesting that that the celebrated "who's who" of the MD community are the first and most vocal when it comes to shooting down any sort of enterprise that escapes their questionably large realm of influence.
They can not shot down anything, since you have posted nothing here. Quote: JT was agreed to be an acceptable broker by both myself and the party with which I am working (see link above). A post was created to reflect that understanding.
Your understanding and public record is on the other thread, I find no reason to post it here (In case you had posted it, since you posted nothing). Quote:
Publicity is a means to combat duplicity, some might say. Count me in among that school of thought. Is there anything else of which the Divine Marketeers disapprove? =P
What I said, althought I'm a mere mortal, next time try to provide some content with your publicity :P
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