stinger7
eve tutors inc
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Halycon Gamma
Bleh, I'm tired of this. If you wanna compare apples to oranges, go for it. But I'd rather see apples to apples. Go to sisi, setup some medium scale engagements with mixed fleets. 15-30 people per side. Build carbon copies of each ship several times over with the same loadouts, write down amount of damage it put out, amount of damage it took, type of damage/ammo it was using, amount of time it stayed alive, yada yada. After doing this for a couple days, you should have a sufficiently large amount of data to see where... if at all.. things are unbalanced.
Thats a stupid idea as all it will show is how ships perform in 15-30 man gangs.
Originally by: Halycon Gamma
Oh, and pointing to killboards is flawed. Because it only shows deaths, you don't get an accurate idea of how often something works, only how often something doesn't work.
You are missing the point:
The more widely a certain type of ship and fit is used in eve means the more often a ship and fit will die, its the simple law of averages.
You seem to think that using loss mails will only show fail fits but the fact is that you can have the best available fit in the game and still die.
Originally by: Halycon Gamma
You're making the same mistake but on a grander scale. We have no idea WHAT those ships were doing at the time of fit. Were they simply one-off utility setups that aren't actually meant for true combat that got caught in a camp? If they were there for real combat, what sorta efficiency rating do they have? What sorta skills do the pilots involved have? Maybe they have perfect shield skills but very very poor armor tanking skills and fit the ship for what they could do because they wanted to undock their shiny new thing?
Thats just it but you seem to be missing two important points.
1. The sampling from battleclinic is not only huge but totally unbiased as it is automatically taken from EVE and as such is not subject to a individuals opinion or perspective.
2. Nobody is saying it should be used solely for balancing, what ppl are doing is adding the data gained from it to other data to give a broader view. This data is used to show how ships are regularly setup and tanked, other data will show other things to give a broad and ubiased result.
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