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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 03:09:00 -
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Ore something more suspicious? 
I was flopping around looking for a hauling job when I noticed a large blob on the map which looked promising. After arriving in the system I discovered to my delight a large mining operation in need of my services.
The operation consisted of around 14 ore more ships, mostly armageddons clustered very close together around cans in three distinct groups with supporting industrials.
Usually when I set up my hauling, I choose a moon, grab as many loads as I jetcan and dump it together at the moon as fast as possible before my clients spring into action with their own ships to prevent me doing too much of the work.
Strangely these 14+ ships did nothing at all, they continued mining happily away till I was noticed on the 3rd load. Usually by this time I've been called a ******, ********, or ******* **** **** **** or worse but local was eerily quite.
So I asked quite politely:
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Channelname: Local
Listener: Infinity Ziona
Session started: 2004.09.09 01:16:04
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[ 2004.09.09 01:52:07 ] Infinity Ziona > macro mining here?
[ 2004.09.09 01:52:22 ] Lathe > excuse me?
[ 2004.09.09 01:52:27 ] Lathe > kiss off.
[ 2004.09.09 01:52:43 ] Infinity Ziona > very quiet for so many miners when I'm stealing your ore
[ 2004.09.09 01:59:28 ] Lathe > we are in belt two now.
[ 2004.09.09 01:59:43 ] Infinity Ziona > are you macro mining lathe?
[ 2004.09.09 02:00:23 ] Lathe > **** you.
[ 2004.09.09 02:00:51 ] Lathe > you wanna be a pirate be a pirate , if you want to harrash take a hike
[ 2004.09.09 02:01:33 ] Infinity Ziona > i'm not harassing, all those armgeddons all mining and not saying anything when I stole the ore looks suspicious, especially when they'll ALL in newbie corps
[ 2004.09.09 02:01:51 ] Lathe > go petition it and shut up.
[ 2004.09.09 02:02:00 ] Infinity Ziona > and in a system with no station
But the one person in local who was talking wasn't saying much. Eventually they all warped out.
These are some of the people:
Fergs - Temerity - 2004.02.21
Julif - Temerity - 2004.01.17
Klinkus - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
L Dari
Lathe - Caldari Provisions - 2003.12.10
Poiulus - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Sphink - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Spinnk - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Titan AE - Scope - 2003.07.14
Uliaf - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Ulif - Temerity - 2004.01.17
Vien - Imperial Shipments - 2003.09.06
Vytl - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Zine - Deep Core Mining - 2003.09.06
All were members of temerity at some point. Wierd huh? 
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 03:09:00 -
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Ore something more suspicious?
I was flopping around looking for a hauling job when I noticed a large blob on the map which looked promising. After arriving in the system I discovered to my delight a large mining operation in need of my services.
The operation consisted of around 14 ore more ships, mostly armageddons clustered very close together around cans in three distinct groups with supporting industrials.
Usually when I set up my hauling, I choose a moon, grab as many loads as I jetcan and dump it together at the moon as fast as possible before my clients spring into action with their own ships to prevent me doing too much of the work.
Strangely these 14+ ships did nothing at all, they continued mining happily away till I was noticed on the 3rd load. Usually by this time I've been called a ******, ********, or ******* **** **** **** or worse but local was eerily quite.
So I asked quite politely:
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Channelname: Local
Listener: Infinity Ziona
Session started: 2004.09.09 01:16:04
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[ 2004.09.09 01:52:07 ] Infinity Ziona > macro mining here?
[ 2004.09.09 01:52:22 ] Lathe > excuse me?
[ 2004.09.09 01:52:27 ] Lathe > kiss off.
[ 2004.09.09 01:52:43 ] Infinity Ziona > very quiet for so many miners when I'm stealing your ore
[ 2004.09.09 01:59:28 ] Lathe > we are in belt two now.
[ 2004.09.09 01:59:43 ] Infinity Ziona > are you macro mining lathe?
[ 2004.09.09 02:00:23 ] Lathe > **** you.
[ 2004.09.09 02:00:51 ] Lathe > you wanna be a pirate be a pirate , if you want to harrash take a hike
[ 2004.09.09 02:01:33 ] Infinity Ziona > i'm not harassing, all those armgeddons all mining and not saying anything when I stole the ore looks suspicious, especially when they'll ALL in newbie corps
[ 2004.09.09 02:01:51 ] Lathe > go petition it and shut up.
[ 2004.09.09 02:02:00 ] Infinity Ziona > and in a system with no station
But the one person in local who was talking wasn't saying much. Eventually they all warped out.
These are some of the people:
Fergs - Temerity - 2004.02.21
Julif - Temerity - 2004.01.17
Klinkus - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
L Dari
Lathe - Caldari Provisions - 2003.12.10
Poiulus - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Sphink - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Spinnk - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Titan AE - Scope - 2003.07.14
Uliaf - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Ulif - Temerity - 2004.01.17
Vien - Imperial Shipments - 2003.09.06
Vytl - Imperial Shipments - 2004.02.02
Zine - Deep Core Mining - 2003.09.06
All were members of temerity at some point. Wierd huh?
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:28:00 -
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Cantrypp, I'm not going to get into the pros and cons of ore theft other then to say I really enjoy stealing ore (wierd I know). I can make much much more mining myself but thats boring.
I'm not passing judgement in this thread, I just found the whole thing rather interesting. Its quite impossible imo to control 14 ships, carting ore out of system if your only one person thus I figured it must be macroing.
While you could be right about everyone staying in gang chat (its very unlikely though, people can't help themselves most of the time you take ore into possession), I found it strange that at least 6 of the characters I listed were created on the very same day 04.02.02. There are a few other telltale signs these guys are all the same people (lack of last names, duplication of some names, same corps, most in newb corps, all using the same battleships, all neatly arranged into identical little blobs of 5 or 6 around the belt, no individualisation).
And he didn't deny it, he just told me to petition him.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 05:28:00 -
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Cantrypp, I'm not going to get into the pros and cons of ore theft other then to say I really enjoy stealing ore (wierd I know). I can make much much more mining myself but thats boring.
I'm not passing judgement in this thread, I just found the whole thing rather interesting. Its quite impossible imo to control 14 ships, carting ore out of system if your only one person thus I figured it must be macroing.
While you could be right about everyone staying in gang chat (its very unlikely though, people can't help themselves most of the time you take ore into possession), I found it strange that at least 6 of the characters I listed were created on the very same day 04.02.02. There are a few other telltale signs these guys are all the same people (lack of last names, duplication of some names, same corps, most in newb corps, all using the same battleships, all neatly arranged into identical little blobs of 5 or 6 around the belt, no individualisation).
And he didn't deny it, he just told me to petition him.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:11:00 -
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First of all to whatever his name is that runs the 12 accounts - I did'nt pass judgement, I simply asked if you were macroing. Your smartass comment in local led me to believe you were. If you hadn't been a rude smartass, this post would'nt be here would it? 
If you spent a little more time interacting with other humans instead of spasticulating your 12 accounts you would realise by the title of this thread that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Personally I think your story is horse**** anyway but otherwise I don't really care that you even exist other then to be a good source of freshly mined ore.
Secondly to the wannable groupies defending him, I really couldn't give a flying F what you think about my activities in-game. Don't like it, petition, start a support group or play another GAME.
Infinity Ziona
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 09:11:00 -
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First of all to whatever his name is that runs the 12 accounts - I did'nt pass judgement, I simply asked if you were macroing. Your smartass comment in local led me to believe you were. If you hadn't been a rude smartass, this post would'nt be here would it?
If you spent a little more time interacting with other humans instead of spasticulating your 12 accounts you would realise by the title of this thread that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Personally I think your story is horse**** anyway but otherwise I don't really care that you even exist other then to be a good source of freshly mined ore.
Secondly to the wannable groupies defending him, I really couldn't give a flying F what you think about my activities in-game. Don't like it, petition, start a support group or play another GAME.
Infinity Ziona
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:11:00 -
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"This person just couldn't get us angry in local, probably doesn't realize this is at LEAST the 10th time this sort of thing has gone down, and wants to make things difficult."
Actually I usually don't say much to people I steal from. I really have no need. The entire conversation we had is right there on the log. Or are saying I said anything else?
"Why not just petition, you know? Why all of this crap all over the forums Ziona? Have you even petitioned yet? I wish you would so the GM can tell you we are not cheating. "
Why petition? I thought it was interesting either way, whether you were running 14 accounts solo or macroing, the subject is of interest to people who play Eve. This is what the forums exist for.
"As a little aside here, this 3 day old alt Ziona a ore theif was able to kill a huge mining op. I had to spend almost 25 million ISK to get ships that *MIGHT* be able to take her out."
Actually my account was created in Nov 2003. I don't need a filthy fleet of alts to play this game. My 1 person corp is at war with 2 corps currently, around 30 people vs myself. You don't see me skulking and hiding in newbie corps do you?
"Its bad for the game."
Not as bad as what you most probably do with that 50 million trit per day
Infinity Ziona
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:11:00 -
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"This person just couldn't get us angry in local, probably doesn't realize this is at LEAST the 10th time this sort of thing has gone down, and wants to make things difficult."
Actually I usually don't say much to people I steal from. I really have no need. The entire conversation we had is right there on the log. Or are saying I said anything else?
"Why not just petition, you know? Why all of this crap all over the forums Ziona? Have you even petitioned yet? I wish you would so the GM can tell you we are not cheating. "
Why petition? I thought it was interesting either way, whether you were running 14 accounts solo or macroing, the subject is of interest to people who play Eve. This is what the forums exist for.
"As a little aside here, this 3 day old alt Ziona a ore theif was able to kill a huge mining op. I had to spend almost 25 million ISK to get ships that *MIGHT* be able to take her out."
Actually my account was created in Nov 2003. I don't need a filthy fleet of alts to play this game. My 1 person corp is at war with 2 corps currently, around 30 people vs myself. You don't see me skulking and hiding in newbie corps do you?
"Its bad for the game."
Not as bad as what you most probably do with that 50 million trit per day
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:49:00 -
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"Hopefully u might have just gained a few more wars... i certainly want to pod u... "
The feeling is mutual tard... I think you probably take this game a little too seriously for your own good. Take a break.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:49:00 -
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"Hopefully u might have just gained a few more wars... i certainly want to pod u... "
The feeling is mutual tard... I think you probably take this game a little too seriously for your own good. Take a break.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:52:00 -
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Omega Man, your not a very bright spark are you? The macro miner is the person that suggested I petition. Read or don't comment.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:52:00 -
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Omega Man, your not a very bright spark are you? The macro miner is the person that suggested I petition. Read or don't comment.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:56:00 -
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"False accusations result in slander cases.... real world and he'd be taking the money out of your pocket for the accusations"
IQ in thread drops rather rapidly when you post Nums. Please point to the part in the original post where I accused him of macromining?.
If you pull your head out of your arse for 2 seconds you will see I asked politely if he was macromining. He told me to **** OFF and to petition him for it.
Not bright at all are you.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:56:00 -
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"False accusations result in slander cases.... real world and he'd be taking the money out of your pocket for the accusations"
IQ in thread drops rather rapidly when you post Nums. Please point to the part in the original post where I accused him of macromining?.
If you pull your head out of your arse for 2 seconds you will see I asked politely if he was macromining. He told me to **** OFF and to petition him for it.
Not bright at all are you.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:10:00 -
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"As for the 3 day old alt on an older account (wow, hero), you are a muppet."
Why is there always another tard with something pointless to say? How about you STFU? 
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:10:00 -
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"As for the 3 day old alt on an older account (wow, hero), you are a muppet."
Why is there always another tard with something pointless to say? How about you STFU?
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:43:00 -
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"Ore thieves thinking about petitioning miners coz they might be macro-mining, with little solid evidence."
Omegaman this seems to me to be directly refering to my first post. Apologies if it is not.
I'm just a little annoyed with these people who feel the need to jump on a bandwagon (Nums and that m0o idiot) because they're insecure, stupid, or both.
They have nothing constructive to say, take things out of context or just ignore it because it doesn't fit into their little EVE world.
Its a ******* GAME, there is no need to be HATING people in a game.
I perform a ligitimate role in EVE (ore thieving) and I get raked over the coals because some yantis ebaying 12 boxing freak doesn't like the fact I posted about his illigimate activities?
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:43:00 -
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"Ore thieves thinking about petitioning miners coz they might be macro-mining, with little solid evidence."
Omegaman this seems to me to be directly refering to my first post. Apologies if it is not.
I'm just a little annoyed with these people who feel the need to jump on a bandwagon (Nums and that m0o idiot) because they're insecure, stupid, or both.
They have nothing constructive to say, take things out of context or just ignore it because it doesn't fit into their little EVE world.
Its a ******* GAME, there is no need to be HATING people in a game.
I perform a ligitimate role in EVE (ore thieving) and I get raked over the coals because some yantis ebaying 12 boxing freak doesn't like the fact I posted about his illigimate activities?
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:36:00 -
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"people don't like the fact that you posted it in the first place. "
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression that I give a **** what 'people' like or don't like. Even moreso when I consider that these 'people' consist mosly of you and Ritardi.
Starting to think your an alt of Mr. Yantis. You do seem very interested in discrediting me :)
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:36:00 -
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"people don't like the fact that you posted it in the first place. "
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression that I give a **** what 'people' like or don't like. Even moreso when I consider that these 'people' consist mosly of you and Ritardi.
Starting to think your an alt of Mr. Yantis. You do seem very interested in discrediting me :)
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.10 15:24:00 -
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"You are one of the most sick people which i can imgagine."
"its only an game"
As for the rest of your post. I'll post what I like, when I like about who I like if I like and theres not anything you can do about it so please get the hell out of my thread or shut your face.
I can't see ANYWHERE in my original post where I complained, criticized or otherwise was mean to poor Mr. ProbablyEbayer about his activities. I simply posted what happened as I observed it because I felt that it would be interesting. Considering this thread is 5 pages long, I guess I was right.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.09.10 15:24:00 -
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"You are one of the most sick people which i can imgagine."
"its only an game"
As for the rest of your post. I'll post what I like, when I like about who I like if I like and theres not anything you can do about it so please get the hell out of my thread or shut your face.
I can't see ANYWHERE in my original post where I complained, criticized or otherwise was mean to poor Mr. ProbablyEbayer about his activities. I simply posted what happened as I observed it because I felt that it would be interesting. Considering this thread is 5 pages long, I guess I was right.
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