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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:37:00 -
[61]
Oh, will the original post please give me the last know location of this crew ?
thank you.
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:37:00 -
[62]
Oh, will the original post please give me the last know location of this crew ?
thank you.
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TheNecromancer
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:40:00 -
[63]
Maybe he mines to get ores to the future Titan ship :)
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TheNecromancer
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Posted - 2004.09.09 10:40:00 -
[64]
Maybe he mines to get ores to the future Titan ship :)
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Cilia Sun
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:19:00 -
[65]
How nice,
We've gone from; "hang the sociopath ore thief" to "hang the guy who might be macro-mining."
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Cilia Sun
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:19:00 -
[66]
How nice,
We've gone from; "hang the sociopath ore thief" to "hang the guy who might be macro-mining."
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:22:00 -
[67]
 Originally by: Claire Scott
Originally by: Severus Trajan
I have a hard time imagining running six accounts, much less TWELVE!
You think that's amazing, you should see my grandmother play bingo. It's the same basic idea.
-E
it is a well known fact that grand mothers play bingo on a quantum level allowing an infinite number of games to played at any given time whilst moaning about power bills/price of shopping/how it was better years ago, so any comparison to eve is inherently flawed, besides an old lady's ability to corellate information relating to a number announced over a mic, scanning countless bingo cards, applying a marker pen to said bingo cards, and moaning about power bills/price of shopping/how it was better years ago would bring a super computer to its knees nevermind the average gaming pc, that and the fact a port and lemon would not be beneficial to the smooth running of computer.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
Dray
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:22:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Claire Scott
Originally by: Severus Trajan
I have a hard time imagining running six accounts, much less TWELVE!
You think that's amazing, you should see my grandmother play bingo. It's the same basic idea.
-E
it is a well known fact that grand mothers play bingo on a quantum level allowing an infinite number of games to played at any given time whilst moaning about power bills/price of shopping/how it was better years ago, so any comparison to eve is inherently flawed, besides an old lady's ability to corellate information relating to a number announced over a mic, scanning countless bingo cards, applying a marker pen to said bingo cards, and moaning about power bills/price of shopping/how it was better years ago would bring a super computer to its knees nevermind the average gaming pc, that and the fact a port and lemon would not be beneficial to the smooth running of computer.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
Helpless peon
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:39:00 -
[69]
who cares about the macro miners kill the ore thief |
Helpless peon
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:39:00 -
[70]
who cares about the macro miners kill the ore thief |
Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:44:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Thanit
Well, this (macro?) miner just admitted using noob corps to avoid a war. That is one reason for a good petitioning.
That's an idiotic quote if I ever heard one.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:44:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Thanit
Well, this (macro?) miner just admitted using noob corps to avoid a war. That is one reason for a good petitioning.
That's an idiotic quote if I ever heard one.
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TAKI OKAWA
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:47:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
First of all to whatever his name is that runs the 12 accounts - I did'nt pass judgement, I simply asked if you were macroing. Your smartass comment in local led me to believe you were. If you hadn't been a rude smartass, this post would'nt be here would it? 
If you spent a little more time interacting with other humans instead of spasticulating your 12 accounts you would realise by the title of this thread that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Personally I think your story is horse**** anyway but otherwise I don't really care that you even exist other then to be a good source of freshly mined ore.
Secondly to the wannable groupies defending him, I really couldn't give a flying F what you think about my activities in-game. Don't like it, petition, start a support group or play another GAME.
Infinity Ziona
or maybe hunt you down,then destroy your ship and then pod you..over and over again infinitely?? i think this is better option ZIONA, and if i ever see you in 0.4 system and lower, thats what i am going to do to you.
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Its not the size of dog in the fight but the size of fight in the dog which matters
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TAKI OKAWA
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:47:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
First of all to whatever his name is that runs the 12 accounts - I did'nt pass judgement, I simply asked if you were macroing. Your smartass comment in local led me to believe you were. If you hadn't been a rude smartass, this post would'nt be here would it?
If you spent a little more time interacting with other humans instead of spasticulating your 12 accounts you would realise by the title of this thread that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Personally I think your story is horse**** anyway but otherwise I don't really care that you even exist other then to be a good source of freshly mined ore.
Secondly to the wannable groupies defending him, I really couldn't give a flying F what you think about my activities in-game. Don't like it, petition, start a support group or play another GAME.
Infinity Ziona
or maybe hunt you down,then destroy your ship and then pod you..over and over again infinitely?? i think this is better option ZIONA, and if i ever see you in 0.4 system and lower, thats what i am going to do to you.
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Its not the size of dog in the fight but the size of fight in the dog which matters
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Tophereon
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:58:00 -
[75]
Originally by: cashman
If you want to annoy a Macro-miner, simply start a convo with all his Alts. Then his macro-setup will stop working duo the pop-up
Another good one (if he is the warp back and forth to a belt type)is to drop a can near where he warps into the belt, he then locks the can activates miners for a bit and then warps back to the station empty! [Repeat]
As for ore thieves, luckily they don't bother me anymore since I left empire... 
Toph.
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Tophereon
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:58:00 -
[76]
Originally by: cashman
If you want to annoy a Macro-miner, simply start a convo with all his Alts. Then his macro-setup will stop working duo the pop-up
Another good one (if he is the warp back and forth to a belt type)is to drop a can near where he warps into the belt, he then locks the can activates miners for a bit and then warps back to the station empty! [Repeat]
As for ore thieves, luckily they don't bother me anymore since I left empire...
Toph.
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Lermitte
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:33:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Lermitte on 09/09/2004 12:36:44
Originally by: Thanit
Well, this (macro?) miner just admitted using noob corps to avoid a war. That is one reason for a good petitioning.
eh ?
No its not.
Leaving a corp during a battle was an exploit.
Simply staying in a noob corp isnt.
Anyway, 12 accounts ? ú100+ a month ?
First I thought this was an ebay cause, but even with making 50 mil a day would that be worth it ?
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Lermitte
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lermitte on 09/09/2004 12:36:44
Originally by: Thanit
Well, this (macro?) miner just admitted using noob corps to avoid a war. That is one reason for a good petitioning.
eh ?
No its not.
Leaving a corp during a battle was an exploit.
Simply staying in a noob corp isnt.
Anyway, 12 accounts ? ú100+ a month ?
First I thought this was an ebay cause, but even with making 50 mil a day would that be worth it ?
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Sius
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:40:00 -
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I really don't know what to say to all this except it would be really nice if all of it could have been handled with a simple petition. Why we have to drag all this crap out on the forums is just whats-her-faces way of taking the ore theiving thing a little further to my mind. Find something that will hurt and grind at it.
I don't know if anyone noticed but Lathe answered local in less than 20 seconds in the log. Also if you want to run more accounts on your computer it can certainly be done, even on a older weaker computer as both of mine are. The main trick people overlook besides turning down all the graphics is removing the sound card after the third client or diabling it and turning off in game transparency. Both of my old Barton 2500's with 1 gig computers will run 6 clients pretty smoothly that way as long as they sit in one place and don't move (like mining)
With all due respect to everyone; Its my damn business how many accounts I have, or how I choose to play. I can afford as many accounts as I want, and so I've got em. Also our entire building plays EVE together amongst other games. We are all on the same wi-fi. I am the landlord of this building and I offer a wi-fi service to everyone that lives here free as I also run a small internet cafe downstairs. Its a really nice way for everyone to get along, and it works great both for the cafe and for the building community. I'll admit its gotten out of hand for me personally. I have to pay quite a bit to CCP every month but its such a small payment. In the scheme of things its less than I pay for my motorcycle monthy bill, less than a jet ski loan payment, and its USUALLY a lot more fun than either of those things.
The worst thing about EVE is that it brings out the very worst in about 1/4 of the people that play it. I really don't think children should be allowed to buy this game. Look at this Ziona person, ore thief enditing low end miners. This person just couldn't get us angry in local, probably doesn't realize this is at LEAST the 10th time this sort of thing has gone down, and wants to make things difficult.
Why not just petition, you know? Why all of this crap all over the forums Ziona? Have you even petitioned yet? I wish you would so the GM can tell you we are not cheating.
As for the people for the people that think it can't be done without macros your mistaken, it took me a very long time to get to where I can run 6 accounts and sometimes 12 as long as half of them are indys on auto pilot but it CAN be done. You just have to have lots of good expanders on the BS to give you time to flip through them. Its actually almost like a twitchy game that way :P.
Come on back Ziona, we have gotten the gear that should be able to kill you now. You'll feel like your proper attention is being paid to you this time :).
As a little aside here, this 3 day old alt Ziona a ore theif was able to kill a huge mining op. I had to spend almost 25 million ISK to get ships that *MIGHT* be able to take her out. Stealing is PvP. The WORST PvP there can ever be is where one side ALWAYS wins. I might be able to drive this girl off, but why she can put so little time and energy into being a HUGE distruption and do so without fear of any sort of equitable opportunity for the victims retribution upon her, is a great weakness in EVE. Ore Theiving is the most imbalenced PvP in EVE. Its been promised this problem would be fixed before castor, then in castor, and finally in Shiva it was put off again. We still can't fight ore theives in shiva. Its bad for the game.
Death to all whiney trolling ore theives! (hopefully)
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Sius
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:40:00 -
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I really don't know what to say to all this except it would be really nice if all of it could have been handled with a simple petition. Why we have to drag all this crap out on the forums is just whats-her-faces way of taking the ore theiving thing a little further to my mind. Find something that will hurt and grind at it.
I don't know if anyone noticed but Lathe answered local in less than 20 seconds in the log. Also if you want to run more accounts on your computer it can certainly be done, even on a older weaker computer as both of mine are. The main trick people overlook besides turning down all the graphics is removing the sound card after the third client or diabling it and turning off in game transparency. Both of my old Barton 2500's with 1 gig computers will run 6 clients pretty smoothly that way as long as they sit in one place and don't move (like mining)
With all due respect to everyone; Its my damn business how many accounts I have, or how I choose to play. I can afford as many accounts as I want, and so I've got em. Also our entire building plays EVE together amongst other games. We are all on the same wi-fi. I am the landlord of this building and I offer a wi-fi service to everyone that lives here free as I also run a small internet cafe downstairs. Its a really nice way for everyone to get along, and it works great both for the cafe and for the building community. I'll admit its gotten out of hand for me personally. I have to pay quite a bit to CCP every month but its such a small payment. In the scheme of things its less than I pay for my motorcycle monthy bill, less than a jet ski loan payment, and its USUALLY a lot more fun than either of those things.
The worst thing about EVE is that it brings out the very worst in about 1/4 of the people that play it. I really don't think children should be allowed to buy this game. Look at this Ziona person, ore thief enditing low end miners. This person just couldn't get us angry in local, probably doesn't realize this is at LEAST the 10th time this sort of thing has gone down, and wants to make things difficult.
Why not just petition, you know? Why all of this crap all over the forums Ziona? Have you even petitioned yet? I wish you would so the GM can tell you we are not cheating.
As for the people for the people that think it can't be done without macros your mistaken, it took me a very long time to get to where I can run 6 accounts and sometimes 12 as long as half of them are indys on auto pilot but it CAN be done. You just have to have lots of good expanders on the BS to give you time to flip through them. Its actually almost like a twitchy game that way :P.
Come on back Ziona, we have gotten the gear that should be able to kill you now. You'll feel like your proper attention is being paid to you this time :).
As a little aside here, this 3 day old alt Ziona a ore theif was able to kill a huge mining op. I had to spend almost 25 million ISK to get ships that *MIGHT* be able to take her out. Stealing is PvP. The WORST PvP there can ever be is where one side ALWAYS wins. I might be able to drive this girl off, but why she can put so little time and energy into being a HUGE distruption and do so without fear of any sort of equitable opportunity for the victims retribution upon her, is a great weakness in EVE. Ore Theiving is the most imbalenced PvP in EVE. Its been promised this problem would be fixed before castor, then in castor, and finally in Shiva it was put off again. We still can't fight ore theives in shiva. Its bad for the game.
Death to all whiney trolling ore theives! (hopefully)
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Nums
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:44:00 -
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There are so many people on this forum who i wish would accidently pop just like a jet can!
Seems there are 2 types of people on the forums. Those you wanna chat about things and those who want to cause grief. What was the point of starting this discussion? Why not do the thing u r meant to do and report it instead of being a (insert rude word)?
If you think large group mining is exploiting the system you obviously have no understanding of eve or economies since the majority of corps group mine and i know my corp mines more than that! 50m trit x 2isk = 100m... Jesus one battleship in 0.0 can make that mining crokite in one day (althought i bet most on this forum wouldn't know - i know because i have done it numerous times)
I am interested how some one can run up to 12 accounts at the same time though... i have a hi spec comp and it struggles with 4. |
Nums
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:44:00 -
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There are so many people on this forum who i wish would accidently pop just like a jet can!
Seems there are 2 types of people on the forums. Those you wanna chat about things and those who want to cause grief. What was the point of starting this discussion? Why not do the thing u r meant to do and report it instead of being a (insert rude word)?
If you think large group mining is exploiting the system you obviously have no understanding of eve or economies since the majority of corps group mine and i know my corp mines more than that! 50m trit x 2isk = 100m... Jesus one battleship in 0.0 can make that mining crokite in one day (althought i bet most on this forum wouldn't know - i know because i have done it numerous times)
I am interested how some one can run up to 12 accounts at the same time though... i have a hi spec comp and it struggles with 4. |
Nums
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:46:00 -
[83]
oh and if CCp have a problem with muliple accounts why is the special offer for 2 accounts happening it the moment? |
Nums
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:46:00 -
[84]
oh and if CCp have a problem with muliple accounts why is the special offer for 2 accounts happening it the moment? |
Stella Mudd
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:50:00 -
[85]
Someone runs 12 accounts? Seems to me CCP would want to keep a person like that happy. If I was an ore thief I would leave that guy alone.
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Stella Mudd
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:50:00 -
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Someone runs 12 accounts? Seems to me CCP would want to keep a person like that happy. If I was an ore thief I would leave that guy alone.
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Nums
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:53:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
First of all to whatever his name is that runs the 12 accounts - I did'nt pass judgement, I simply asked if you were macroing. Your smartass comment in local led me to believe you were. If you hadn't been a rude smartass, this post would'nt be here would it?
So basically you posted this because he was rude to a stupid theif? If some one stole from me in real life i would kick the living **** out of them... The same feelings are caused when some one steals from you in eve |
Nums
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:53:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
First of all to whatever his name is that runs the 12 accounts - I did'nt pass judgement, I simply asked if you were macroing. Your smartass comment in local led me to believe you were. If you hadn't been a rude smartass, this post would'nt be here would it?
So basically you posted this because he was rude to a stupid theif? If some one stole from me in real life i would kick the living **** out of them... The same feelings are caused when some one steals from you in eve |
Sius
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:09:00 -
[89]
Ok Nums,
Seems like a bunch of people want to know how to run a bunch of accounts. I'll tell you how I do it.
Firstly get your windows cleaned up, turn off all the unnessiary services in the admin section. Black Vipers site has good advice on how to do this. just punch in "black viper tweeks" into google you'll get the site.
If you want to run 3 clients this is what I suggest;
1. kill all the pretty stuff in the game settings, and make sure you turn off the transparency of the windows as that makes for a lot of texture drawing, as well as the tranparent radar. I have noticed that I crash to desktop when the card is swamped with texture rendering on numerous clients. This is why those super texture loaded warp tunnels crash clients imo.
2. goto your graphics card settings and turn the colors down to 16 million and do so in the game as well. For Gforce cards turn off anti alising, ect. Turn mip mapping to blend not performance as the text will be blurry at performance. Turn off the vertical sync. Make sure you leave the fog table on as turning it off will make all the lines you your big map poof, which is very confusing.
For 3 to 6 clients follow steps one and two, then;
3. At this point the biggest lag factor is your sound. Turning off the sound in game seems to still leave the drivers running, I personally just pulled out the sound cards as I needed them in other machines. This step alone cuased the biggest single improvemtent that could be made. 6 cleints began to behave like 3 in terms of lag.
Its important to note that you CANNOT make a bunch of clients run smoothly in real PVP combat. The CPU is pegged at 100% all the time now and lag will be very sensitive to how much is going on around you. I personally can fight low lvl spawns in .5 systems and run 5 haulers sufficiently but I'd never try that in lower security systems. Do the obvious things, keep the cans picked up, don't have 5 gillion windows pulled up on each client. Make SURE your case doesn't turn into a fireball esp with AMD's, plenty of fans =good.
As far as equipment all my gforce 4200 and 4600 cards run EVE better than my 5200 cards with twice the memory and all of my AMD machines seem to run EVE better than my pentium machines. I use the drivers from around 4.2 from nvidia, that came out like 9 mos ago I think? Sometimes my finiky systems don't work unless I roll the drivers back that far. ATI machines NEED the newest drivers since ATI is so very slick with making good drivers (NOT!) A lot of ATI cards visibly botch drawing parts of EVE and some can't even get to the EULA due to a VPU error without the newest drivers.
If you'd like a record I just built a machine for one of the tenants with a 64meg MX4000 to run 4 clents of EVE on a 1.8 AMD puter. They actually did pretty well, good enough for mining. Two of them run great.
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Sius
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:09:00 -
[90]
Ok Nums,
Seems like a bunch of people want to know how to run a bunch of accounts. I'll tell you how I do it.
Firstly get your windows cleaned up, turn off all the unnessiary services in the admin section. Black Vipers site has good advice on how to do this. just punch in "black viper tweeks" into google you'll get the site.
If you want to run 3 clients this is what I suggest;
1. kill all the pretty stuff in the game settings, and make sure you turn off the transparency of the windows as that makes for a lot of texture drawing, as well as the tranparent radar. I have noticed that I crash to desktop when the card is swamped with texture rendering on numerous clients. This is why those super texture loaded warp tunnels crash clients imo.
2. goto your graphics card settings and turn the colors down to 16 million and do so in the game as well. For Gforce cards turn off anti alising, ect. Turn mip mapping to blend not performance as the text will be blurry at performance. Turn off the vertical sync. Make sure you leave the fog table on as turning it off will make all the lines you your big map poof, which is very confusing.
For 3 to 6 clients follow steps one and two, then;
3. At this point the biggest lag factor is your sound. Turning off the sound in game seems to still leave the drivers running, I personally just pulled out the sound cards as I needed them in other machines. This step alone cuased the biggest single improvemtent that could be made. 6 cleints began to behave like 3 in terms of lag.
Its important to note that you CANNOT make a bunch of clients run smoothly in real PVP combat. The CPU is pegged at 100% all the time now and lag will be very sensitive to how much is going on around you. I personally can fight low lvl spawns in .5 systems and run 5 haulers sufficiently but I'd never try that in lower security systems. Do the obvious things, keep the cans picked up, don't have 5 gillion windows pulled up on each client. Make SURE your case doesn't turn into a fireball esp with AMD's, plenty of fans =good.
As far as equipment all my gforce 4200 and 4600 cards run EVE better than my 5200 cards with twice the memory and all of my AMD machines seem to run EVE better than my pentium machines. I use the drivers from around 4.2 from nvidia, that came out like 9 mos ago I think? Sometimes my finiky systems don't work unless I roll the drivers back that far. ATI machines NEED the newest drivers since ATI is so very slick with making good drivers (NOT!) A lot of ATI cards visibly botch drawing parts of EVE and some can't even get to the EULA due to a VPU error without the newest drivers.
If you'd like a record I just built a machine for one of the tenants with a 64meg MX4000 to run 4 clents of EVE on a 1.8 AMD puter. They actually did pretty well, good enough for mining. Two of them run great.
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