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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:40:00 -
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Moved from General Discussions - Lomithrandra
It strikes me that Eve is lacking in one particular area - individual accountability.
Thus i have cobbled together a few thoughts, to form a rough idea that may serve to resolve this problem:
I suggest that CCP create a new kind of "Empire War", called a "Personal Vendetta". This would function like empire wars between corporations but would be applied only between individual characters.
It would allow 2 players to fight in empire space over a personal grievance without involving the entire corp.
Vendettas could be declared on individuals, even if they are a member of a newbie corp
You cannot declare a vendetta against a character < 1 month old (or other suitable limit to protect genuine new players)
The vendetta would remain active for a limited duration (1 week?)
The vendetta cannot be repeated against the same character for 1 month (or other suitable time period to prevent griefing)
Feel free to flame/troll or even add constructive comments |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:40:00 -
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Moved from General Discussions - Lomithrandra
It strikes me that Eve is lacking in one particular area - individual accountability.
Thus i have cobbled together a few thoughts, to form a rough idea that may serve to resolve this problem:
I suggest that CCP create a new kind of "Empire War", called a "Personal Vendetta". This would function like empire wars between corporations but would be applied only between individual characters.
It would allow 2 players to fight in empire space over a personal grievance without involving the entire corp.
Vendettas could be declared on individuals, even if they are a member of a newbie corp
You cannot declare a vendetta against a character < 1 month old (or other suitable limit to protect genuine new players)
The vendetta would remain active for a limited duration (1 week?)
The vendetta cannot be repeated against the same character for 1 month (or other suitable time period to prevent griefing)
Feel free to flame/troll or even add constructive comments |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:42:00 -
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works for me. would be really nice to have this...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:42:00 -
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works for me. would be really nice to have this...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:45:00 -
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you mean lynching? that is.. ganking? in empire?
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:45:00 -
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you mean lynching? that is.. ganking? in empire?
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Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:47:00 -
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cool, quite like the concept. Like a war between two people only and it has a limited duration and you cannot re-war as soon as the duration is up.
Well, would sort out ore thieves i suppose :)
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Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:47:00 -
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cool, quite like the concept. Like a war between two people only and it has a limited duration and you cannot re-war as soon as the duration is up.
Well, would sort out ore thieves i suppose :)
"Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur
"First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto |

Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:47:00 -
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Should be made sure that you do not exploit a vendetta, coming in with a gang on that poor 2 months old cruiser pilot you declared vendetta upon. Beside of that - I like it. ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:47:00 -
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Should be made sure that you do not exploit a vendetta, coming in with a gang on that poor 2 months old cruiser pilot you declared vendetta upon. Beside of that - I like it. ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:04:00 -
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i dont believe this would be lynching/ganking, as limited numbers of vendettas would be available to each player, and each declaration would expire, and could not be immediately redeclared
accountability is missing from the game
experienced players are hiding behind game mechanisms designed to protect new players (concord, newbie corps, etc) and it shouldn't be allowed to continue
this is the best idea i've had since i discovered Chocolate Brandy Milkshake
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:04:00 -
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i dont believe this would be lynching/ganking, as limited numbers of vendettas would be available to each player, and each declaration would expire, and could not be immediately redeclared
accountability is missing from the game
experienced players are hiding behind game mechanisms designed to protect new players (concord, newbie corps, etc) and it shouldn't be allowed to continue
this is the best idea i've had since i discovered Chocolate Brandy Milkshake
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Wylaf Umberg
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:09:00 -
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Would be difficult to avoid corp members declaring vendetta after each other on the same player = either lynching or part-corp war, take your choice.
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Wylaf Umberg
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:09:00 -
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Would be difficult to avoid corp members declaring vendetta after each other on the same player = either lynching or part-corp war, take your choice.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wylaf Umberg Would be difficult to avoid corp members declaring vendetta after each other on the same player = either lynching or part-corp war, take your choice.
if that heppends, the targets corp would just declare war against them |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wylaf Umberg Would be difficult to avoid corp members declaring vendetta after each other on the same player = either lynching or part-corp war, take your choice.
if that heppends, the targets corp would just declare war against them |

petergriffen
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:29:00 -
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Pretty good idea...
Maybe a limit to the number of active personal vendettas... maybe one at a time?
While this would keep a number of players from declaring a vendetta against a single player, it wouldn't prevent a corp from declaring war on the enemy's corp... Though it makes sense to work that way.
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petergriffen
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:29:00 -
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Pretty good idea...
Maybe a limit to the number of active personal vendettas... maybe one at a time?
While this would keep a number of players from declaring a vendetta against a single player, it wouldn't prevent a corp from declaring war on the enemy's corp... Though it makes sense to work that way.
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Lizaa
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:38:00 -
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mmmmm.... empire pwnage .... mmmmmmmm that would rock i could track and own all by myself then........... sweet Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ Death is coming!!!!!
Ph34r teh Retribution. |

Lizaa
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:38:00 -
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mmmmm.... empire pwnage .... mmmmmmmm that would rock i could track and own all by myself then........... sweet Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ Death is coming!!!!!
Ph34r teh Retribution. |

Xanshiva
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:38:00 -
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As you know from my other thread, "Letters of Marque", I am a BIG fan of individual responsibility -- this is a good idea. Almost like a Code Duello, or a formalized, licensed duelists code.
I can see several places where this would be appropriate. Good idea
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Xanshiva
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:38:00 -
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As you know from my other thread, "Letters of Marque", I am a BIG fan of individual responsibility -- this is a good idea. Almost like a Code Duello, or a formalized, licensed duelists code.
I can see several places where this would be appropriate. Good idea
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:41:00 -
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Yup us pirates would love that :D
I say yay to it with 30 second wait til it goes into effect
YAAAAR
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:41:00 -
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Yup us pirates would love that :D
I say yay to it with 30 second wait til it goes into effect
YAAAAR
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:50:00 -
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Sounds reasonable to me. I would also suggest, in addition to the number of active vendettas on a person, a limitation that noone can declare a vendetta on a person in the same PC corp, or (possibly) alliance, as they already have right of fire on them. Otherwise it would be possible to protect someone by having their corpmates all declare "vendettas" on them, and filling up the list.
Harry Voyager
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:50:00 -
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Sounds reasonable to me. I would also suggest, in addition to the number of active vendettas on a person, a limitation that noone can declare a vendetta on a person in the same PC corp, or (possibly) alliance, as they already have right of fire on them. Otherwise it would be possible to protect someone by having their corpmates all declare "vendettas" on them, and filling up the list.
Harry Voyager
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WTHECK NOLABS
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:55:00 -
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M0o Pirates ever fight by themselves on purpose? What yall been sniffin?
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WTHECK NOLABS
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Posted - 2004.09.09 14:55:00 -
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M0o Pirates ever fight by themselves on purpose? What yall been sniffin?
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:02:00 -
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This would make bounty hunting in empire feasable - you "vendetta" your target and can then chase him anywhere - damn fine idea in principle ____________________________________________
MLM: Gentlemen at Play |

Zzazzt
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Posted - 2004.09.09 15:02:00 -
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This would make bounty hunting in empire feasable - you "vendetta" your target and can then chase him anywhere - damn fine idea in principle ____________________________________________
MLM: Gentlemen at Play |
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