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MirrorGod Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.31 17:05:00 - [61] Originally by: Electus Matari Pilot Ushra Khan are no different now then they have ever been. A long winded group that is entirely self serving and self centered. They have used poor and inaccurate propaganda so often that they have come to believe it for real. And that's why the CVA stand united in providence while the Minmatar sympathetic and Minmatar loyal fight amongst themselves. The fall of Unity station, quite ironic how literal that defeat was.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 17:41:00 - [62] Originally by: DeT Resprox UshraKhan has been set to neutral standings due to their continued support of this pirate organisation." Oh det.. shakes head It is sad we could not discuss it around a table in a conference room. No doubt our common enemies are watching this and enjoying themselfs. I have not seen our council halls for quiet some time due to planetside happenings i needed to pay attantion to so what i now say is uncoordinated and not blessed from the top: Ushra'khan spends most of its time figthing the card and cole core of slavery in 0.0 We have sacrified our comfy lives in empire to keep the amarr empire back from you and your families as well possible. Since the battle of unity, we had to form unusual alliances with pirates whom often happened to do more about the issue of lavery than our "moral-high-ground" brothers and sisters who hugged their profitable moons in molden heath, heimatar and where not... As you well know old friend - alliances in 0.0 need to set colours to prioritize targets, to keep own pilots out of harm and to turn borderlining units into supporters of the cause. having HN blue doesn mean we send them ammo and ships in order to kill peaceful miners. We also did not defend them against concord, or against anyone else who is doing anti-pirate work far away from our battlegrounds. Perhaps, in this light the sentence "supporting them" sound a bit ridiculous, overstressed as if to make an artificial point in lack of a better reason to blackmail us? It smells like it, although that is not typical for you. my diappointment weights heavy, because i though you would be a rock solid friend. But you left even without a discussion, your goodbye was a relayed log from local broadcast channel i think... I dont think HN deserves so much publicity. You can bet after this dispute they will double their recruiting. Congratulations. recruiting -forum
Maggot Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 17:54:00 - [63] Rocius, Interesting nonsense that spews from your mouth. "close down sections of republic space" "shooting on a whim" Please provide some facts for these you piece of ****. As for "little empire in providence", well to twist our failed move to providence to try and stop the spread of the slaver's empire really is pushing it a little. Everything we do is for our fight against the evil of slavery. Nothing is for ourselves or any other purpose. Stay in your station and get Darius to pour you a mug of tea. Maggot.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 17:55:00 - [64] Originally by: Zverofaust Nobody asked you to appease a mob. We asked you to recognize that the Heretics were and are attacking and disrupting Minmatar Militia war efforts. Period. End of sentence. How many times do I have to say 'we do not get involved with militia politics'? We're not here to police low security space. Period. End of sentence.
Arkady Sadik Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.05.31 18:07:00 - [65] Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Electus Matari Pilot The fall of Unity station, quite ironic how literal that defeat was. If Unity would be your goal, MirrorGod, you would not have put in the effort to modify Rocius' name in your quote. But anyone who has witnessed your work in the militia in trying to destroy unity and put all of us against each other will not be surprised by that. I'm only saddened that you go for such simple attempts - do you really think the good people reading this thread can not see past such simple tricks? And to make it clear: Rocius' views are his own. He does not speak for Electus Matari.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 18:22:00 - [66] Originally by: Kryten2X4B523P pressing of a standings button as you so eloquently hightlight it. this ridiculous dispute is over "pressing a button" It is not about u'k supporting HN (they do their stuff independant from us, and if we pressed that button, they would continue to do that, am i right? So what is this fuss really about? personal greed : Triad needs PR attacking UK in public is delivering it. If all politics would be that straight , transparent and simple we all would spend more with our families. recruiting -forum
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 18:32:00 - [67] Originally by: Lord Maximullis How can you not care about in-empire affairs. The great majority of slavery occours within the Amarrian Empire and the Amarrian slavers still make incursions into the Republic to reclaim the Matari into a life of enslavement, pain and suffering. max, we have shared responsibilities. Electus matari, the republic and the millitia deal with empire matters, and we do respect their abiility to do so without our intervention. ushra'khan deals with those who threaten to expand amarr empire until there is no free planet anymore anywhere. Are you suggesting, that our percetpion was wrong and the republic, militia and well established loylty alliances like the EM cannot handle their part without us? If so, i am pretty sure that your commander is not happy about that statement. recruiting -forum
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 18:40:00 - [68] Originally by: Zverofaust It's very unfortunate that U'K has decided to follow the path of appeasing enemies of the Minmatar people. I can only hope U'K comes to recognize their error and returns to the Minmatar cause. Until then I can no longer consider them allies. once you sit in an amarr cell on a mining planet you will remember who the "enemy of minmatar" is and who is nothing more but a pirate. You have such big trouble with "pirates" that you have to draw our name through the mud? Can you not deal with them despite any NAPs we might possibly have with them? lol.. whata puny sight. recruiting -forum
Ugleb Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 19:32:00 - [69] Edited by: Ugleb on 31/05/2009 19:32:32 Originally by: Angry Fist If the Heretics wish to start supporting the Minmatar militia cause again then they are welcome to enter into talks, but understand that we (the militia) will no longer tolerate attempts to distract and divide us. Any peaceful resolution will need to satisfy the most dissatisfied amongst us. Deeds, not silky words, will be required to placate us this time. Wise words brother. I applaud the bneginnings of a reasonable mind set. It would be better for all concerned if some diplomatic consensus could be resolved. Should it be desired by interested parties it could be possible for me to offer my services as a mediator. Not as a representative of the Ushra'Khan, but as a supporter of the cause I hope we all share in common. [OOC - offer is likely time zone dependent! And I really do mean it, this would be me talking not my alliance. I do not normally draw that distinction. ;) ] Contact the Sarz'na Khumatari
Kelsin Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.05.31 19:51:00 - [70] Originally by: Ugleb Originally by: Angry Fist If the Heretics wish to start supporting the Minmatar militia cause again then they are welcome to enter into talks, but understand that we (the militia) will no longer tolerate attempts to distract and divide us. Any peaceful resolution will need to satisfy the most dissatisfied amongst us. Deeds, not silky words, will be required to placate us this time. Wise words brother. I applaud the bneginnings of a reasonable mind set. It would be better for all concerned if some diplomatic consensus could be resolved. Should it be desired by interested parties it could be possible for me to offer my services as a mediator. Not as a representative of the Ushra'Khan, but as a supporter of the cause I hope we all share in common. [OOC - offer is likely time zone dependent! And I really do mean it, this would be me talking not my alliance. I do not normally draw that distinction. ;) ] As an outside observer I feel compelled to highlight this podpilot's excellent reasoning. In the vast expanse of space there's room for freecaptains to be allies despite relatively minor disagreements, especially in the face of greater threats to freedom for all. If you look within yourselves I think you'll see that the distance that separates you is not too great to be overcome through dialogue. Especially if, once divided, free space is destined to fall under the sway of an oppressive Amarrian regime. Surely the Militia, Ushra'Khan and the Heretic Nation have common interests and can negotiate a fair and mutually beneficial treaty that respects each group's concerns and strengthens your position as a whole. I don't normally speak up about these sorts of things but we are all free capsuleers and to fall prey to the petty disagreements of dirtside-style politics in the face of a much greater threat to freespace would be a tragedy! So please fellow freespacers, if you can see the wisdom in putting the fight against imperialism ahead of differences that can be overcome through dialogue, speak up here and now to entreat these parties to settle their disagreements in a mutually beneficial way so the fight against the oppressive forces of the universe can continue!
Sophie Starsparrow Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan	Posted - 2009.05.31 20:09:00 - [71] Kelsin, I do hope that both parties accept your offer of mediation. There seems to be a lot of personal baggage on both sides preventing them from communicating with each other clearly. Mediation is the correct answer no matter what the final result.
Ophey Won Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.05.31 20:43:00 - [72] Originally by: Kelsin As an outside observer I feel compelled to highlight this podpilot's excellent reasoning. In the vast expanse of space there's room for freecaptains to be allies despite relatively minor disagreements, especially in the face of greater threats to freedom for all. If you look within yourselves I think you'll see that the distance that separates you is not too great to be overcome through dialogue. Especially if, once divided, free space is destined to fall under the sway of an oppressive Amarrian regime. Surely the Militia, Ushra'Khan and the Heretic Nation have common interests and can negotiate a fair and mutually beneficial treaty that respects each group's concerns and strengthens your position as a whole. I don't normally speak up about these sorts of things but we are all free capsuleers and to fall prey to the petty disagreements of dirtside-style politics in the face of a much greater threat to freespace would be a tragedy! So please fellow freespacers, if you can see the wisdom in putting the fight against imperialism ahead of differences that can be overcome through dialogue, speak up here and now to entreat these parties to settle their disagreements in a mutually beneficial way so the fight against the oppressive forces of the universe can continue! Wise words. But I am not sure how much more Heretics could offer besides free blues to any one who asks for them. I am not the Diplomat for Heretics, but what else is there. Those who have motives against us brook apart the talk as soon as we tried. The problem here is too many politician and no leaders in the Militia
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 20:55:00 - [73] arkady, i strongly suggest you get your pilot to apologise. His ill tempered tongue nearly earned you a war dec in the past. Honestly, if it was solely on me you'd be red for your pandering to Midular alone let alone your doctrine of appeasment and unwillingness to step up and fight. I can and do speak for u'k so kindly get your house in order or suffer the consequences.
Tkotm Minmatar The Wings of Maak	Posted - 2009.05.31 21:01:00 - [74] Don't speak so fast Sapphrine.
Neu Bastian Minmatar Valklear Guard	Posted - 2009.05.31 21:12:00 - [75] All you all out of your f\|_\|cking mind? This is shameful. You all know me not to be a sympathizer of Heretics but this attacks on Ushra'Khan are outright idiocy. I'm been on the ranks of every Matari organization in this discussion. Can you not see you compliment each other? EM might not go in the depths of Slaver territory in 0.0 or even to Amarr, but they fight every day to make a safe and prosperous home for our freed brothers to come back to. The Militia might be a disorganized mob, but it holds some of the finest combat pilots in the universe, and so far they've done a damn fine job of keeping the Amarrians at bay, and that on top of all the internal bickering. They do not need help stomping anything in their way and all forces who cross them should fear the day they stop arguing amongst themselves long enough to realize it. And Ushra'Khan, my current Alliance, my brothers in arm, well, we know no boundaries, we know no numbers, and where there is slavery we fight. Period. U'K has and continues to go further than any other organization I've ever know to fight slavery and none can deny this. Not you Roc, not TRIAD, not anyone. The sole accusation of aiding Heretics is preposterous. We live 20 jumps of Amamake through the shortest hostile infested way and you're thinking we'd go there to do what exacly? Gank some rookie pilot in their first trips to Matari Low sec? to aid the Killing of Minmatar Militia? Should U'K ever do this I'd take my corp out and gun for them myself. But we simply do not interfere, and if we have a nap with Heretics is so we donÆt shoot at each other in providence. If triad had a problem with this they should have discuses internally like rational demands instead of coming in the forums and dropping a pointless drama bomb. No outsider tells us what to do and if anything you just threw any chance of negotiating standings you had down the drain. We donÆt care for ultimatums. keep it up, the Amarr are having a laugh. We're Ushra'Khan. We come for our people. The rest is none of your f\|_\|ckign business. Quote: Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
Arkady Sadik Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.05.31 22:09:00 - [76] Originally by: Sapphrine arkady, i strongly suggest you get your pilot to apologise. I'm afraid that I do not hold any authority over Rocius that would give me the ability to "get" him to apologise. This has not changed since the last time you publically asked me to make Electus Matari do something. I still do not speak for Electus Matari. I merely pointed out a well-known fact to the general audience here, who usually have better things to do than to check who the diplomats for an alliance are. Originally by: Sapphrine Honestly, if it was solely on me you'd be red for your pandering to Midular alone let alone your doctrine of appeasment and unwillingness to step up and fight. Originally by: Sapphrine we are not going to dictate our politics around their politics. Originally by: Sapphrine I can and do speak for u'k so kindly get your house in order or suffer the consequences. Originally by: Sapphrine Consider how far you must have fallen to feel the need to make your point via this channel rather than speaking direct to us about your concerns. Our diplomatic contacts are Elsebeth Rhiannon, Evanda Char and Arthur Black. Please direct your concerns to them.
KillJoy Tseng Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.05.31 22:24:00 - [77] Hmm. U'K hold NAP status to some people that aren't very well liked and who they don't meet in space too often. Heavens, I am totally shocked by this. Guess what? We do too. I know from experience that this means simply that... we don't shoot at them because they have agreed not to shoot at us. U'K's priorities aren't anti-piracy in Republic space. They've stated this; they don't come there much lately, and it's not what they do now nor has it ever, to my memory, been their focus. We have our own priorities as well; we set standings by them and we act upon them. If EM and U'K agreed in every detail, there'd be very little point to having two separate groups. Also, as Arkady stated, Rocius's views are his own. He doesn't speak for Electus Matari, nor does he pretend to the authority to do so.
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.31 22:33:00 - [78] Edited by: Poreuomai on 31/05/2009 22:35:02 Originally by: Neu Bastian Can you not see you compliment each other? EM might not go in the depths of Slaver territory in 0.0 or even empire to free slaves, but they fight every day to make a safe and prosperous home for our freed brothers to come back to. The Militia might be a disorganized mob, but it holds some of the finest combat pilots in the universe, and so far they've done a damn fine job of keeping the Amarrians at bay, and that on top of all the internal bickering. They do not need help stomping anything in their way and all forces who cross them should fear the day they stop arguing amongst themselves long enough to realize it. And Ushra'Khan, my current alliance, my brothers in arm, well, we know no boundaries, we care not about odds; where there is slavery we fight. Period. U'K has and continues to go further than any other organization I've ever know to fight slavery and none can deny this. Not you Roc, not TRIAD, not anyone. Hear hear. *Let My People Go*
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.01 04:33:00 - [79] Originally by: KillJoy Tseng Hmm. U'K hold NAP status to some people that aren't very well liked and who they don't meet in space too often. Heavens, I am totally shocked by this. Guess what? We do too. cheers killjoy, good to know that there are also less hysterical voices within the EM. recruiting -forum
Rocius Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.06.01 04:40:00 - [80] Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Electus Matari Pilot If you are not man enough to quote me by name, then by all rights, don't bother to quote me you worm. Originally by: Maggot Rocius, Interesting nonsense that spews from your mouth. "close down sections of republic space" "shooting on a whim" Please provide some facts for these you piece of ***. As for "little empire in providence", well to twist our failed move to providence to try and stop the spread of the slaver's empire really is pushing it a little. Everything we do is for our fight against the evil of slavery. Nothing is for ourselves or any other purpose. Stay in your station and get Darius to pour you a mug of tea. Maggot. I am not really in the mood to give you a history lesson on your own alliance and its foundations. If you don't remember them then you have either slipped from old age, or your own propaganda has become so second nature to you you wouldn't know a truth if it rolled across you. Yes, congratulations on trying to set up your own empire in Providence* then complaining because you cant get any help out there against CVA, who you ever so graciously handed over a pair of outposts in which they have spread closer to Republic space with much less work needed. Originally by: Sapphrine arkady, i strongly suggest you get your pilot to apologise. His ill tempered tongue nearly earned you a war dec in the past. Honestly, if it was solely on me you'd be red for your pandering to Midular alone let alone your doctrine of appeasment and unwillingness to step up and fight. I can and do speak for u'k so kindly get your house in order or suffer the consequences. Your an idiot. You have always been an idiot. I am just thankful that your post here only highlights is all the more so for others to see. For years as CEO I have had to bite my tongue on that, but no longer. Why would I apologize for speaking truths? I am not a diplomat, I am not the leader of Gradient nor EM. I hold no rank or position of authority. I speak for myself alone here. Oh, and you were going to declare war on EM in the past were you? Unity indeed. Know that never once, NEVER ONCE, would I have supported, or even remotely considered declaring war on U'K.... EVER. It saddens me greatly to hear that you would have done so over disagreements in the way our two groups operate. OH, and for the record yet again I am not now, nor have I ever been a supporter of Karin Midular. As she was the legally elected leader of our people, I followed her law and authority placed upon her by the people of the Republic. As soon as a better chance arose I was damn well going to make sure I was there in support of that choice. Your threats mean little to me. Originally by: Neu Bastian Many Truths Yes. I cannot agree with you more Neu. The problem is quite simple though. You served under me for quite a while, did you not? Did you ever hear me say that I did not support U'K at the core of what they want to try to do? No. You know I never did. What was the biggest thing that always bothered me about U'K? Nothing more simple then the fact that no matter what EM or Gradient did it was never good enough. It was always less than what U'K did in their eyes. You know I never supported, or even liked Midular. But you also know I was honor bound to follow her lead as the head of the Republic. Nothing could have made me happier than when Sanmatar Shakor became the head of our people. Why? Not just because the weak and ineffectual leadership we had to suffer through before hand was not helping enough..... but because in a greater part, I though that now with a stronger and better leader, one that U'K themselves would support that we could begin anew with true Unity. But even now, after all that has happened, we still see the same things from U'K. Attacks on those that would like to be able to support them. Still the throwbacks of ôMidular supportersö and the like. I said a lot of things in that first post. All of which in my eyes, are true. I know it has upset a lot of people. I am most likely going to have to answer to the CEO of Gradient now for my words. But they are words that I spoke as I see them. I have the moral fortitude to stand up for what I say. I have lost much personally and professionally for standing by what I have said and done in the past. I am neither ashamed of that, nor would I change any of it. I have, and continue to do what I need to do to support the people and the Republic they live in.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.01 04:45:00 - [81] @all, i dont think that rocius posts requre any response. he is clearly in some delirium and he is also clueless - the public can see this clearly anyways (some low grade implants kill brain cells)
Eran Mintor Minmatar Stillwater Corporation	Posted - 2009.06.01 05:53:00 - [82] Eran appears on the holo-vid looking very somber and disturbed. He lets out a shallow sigh before opening his eyes and mouth. Zoolkhan, I don't need you to tell me who I can listen to and who is a delirious madman; I am quite capable of making those judgments myself. I respect that you wish to ignore all that Rocius says and consider it just a front, the same attitude Ushra'Khan have given towards Commander Resprox's words. That's your choice, you're free, not my issue. I only ask you respect me and the rest of Matari tribesmen to not tell them who to listen to and who to ignore. I feel that, while possibly mis-guided or partially inaccurate, many of these words and accusations hold truths that people mis-interpret or completely ignore for the sake of not being wrong. How hard is it to admit a fault? Very hard for some. It takes courage and a lot of spirit to humble yourself. I've been trying to hold my tongue since the onset of hostile discussion began. Take note; that hostility did not begin with Commander Resprox. He simply stated he was dissatisfied with the direction of the alliance and was taking his own path. In the same breath he expelled Ushra'Khan members as an act of sincerity; to show he truly meant it. He was not trying to pull some "Public Relations stunt" and get people to work against Ushra'Khan. T.R.I.A.D is a small agency and has a similar size of influence however, that will not stop him from doing what he thinks is right. I didn't want to say much because I have a lot of friends in the Valklear Guard and a few others in Ushra'khan, all whom I respect. I have fewer friends, if any, in Electus Matari. Yet like Neu said, both alliances are compliments to each other. On paper, the goals of Ushra'Khan are to "free our people" and EM's is to make the Republic, where most of the free Matari reside, a better place to live. Can you not respect both of your goals? My problem is the sheer ignorance here. I see faults that many seem to shrug off; faults in the "solution" you have to abolish slavery. This is not meant to be a diss on the community of Ushra'Khan, who I believe are fierce and proud warriors who truly wish to do the right thing, yet are possibly mis-guided by blood-lust and the desire for revenge. Have you ever considered that killing slavers by itself will do more harm than good? You see, the key to abolishing slavery, or changing any social belief, is through the mind. If you kill a slaver and he has sons, the child' mind will view you as a murderer and the boy will only be further compelled to dedicate himself to enslave or destroy you, and furthermore our entire race. The same goes for our people when we see a Matari killed or tortured by servitude. It's a system that creates an endless cycle; that is until every last man is dead and we have nothing left to show but bones and ash. What must be done is a change of approach, and this can only come about by us changing our minds first. The way we view the Amarr, slavery, and our priorities. The well-being of our people must be promoted or slaves will come home to more anguish than they faced in shackles. The fact that Sapphrine actually threatened Electus Matari with a war declaration is ludicrous. I hope you were not serious. I could not be more disturbed by such acts of self-hate. The sad reality is that many Matari are born into a society that cradles hate; hate against Amarr, hate against slavery; hate against anything you choose to disagree with. It's only natural this hate spreads over to our brothers. Something must be done to change this. I had hoped EM and U'K would be a good role-model for the militia as how two Matari loyalist organizations with differing views can work together, but this is no good for such an example. For the good of our own community, the Matari, put your differences aside and focus on what needs to be done. I don't expect anyone to listen to my words, but for the sake of our people...
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.01 06:55:00 - [83] Originally by: Eran Mintor Eran appears on the holo-vid looking very somber and disturbed. He lets out a shallow sigh before opening his eyes and mouth. Zoolkhan, I don't need you to tell me who I can listen to and who is a delirious madman; I am quite capable of making those judgments myself. I respect that you wish to ignore all that Rocius says and consider it just a front, the same attitude Ushra'Khan have given towards Commander Resprox's words. That's your choice, you're free, not my issue. I only ask you respect me and the rest of Matari tribesmen to not tell them who to listen to and who to ignore With all due respect - learn to read a) i said does not require response, with no word i have suggested "dont read this madmans walltags" b) for further clarification, i was more addressing my own people. May your weapons hit the target better warrior. I think despite reading too hastly sometimes (happens to the best) you probably have the heart on the right place. <o. recruiting -forum
T 2 Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2009.06.01 07:05:00 - [84] After reading all the posts.. I feel compelled to reply even if my CEO already did hit the spot with his post. Why are people ranting to U'K? I fail to see the point. I understand the "oh, they have HN set blue" - reaction but cannot you people see the bigger picture? U'K is something we all admire yes - but their priorities are not in low sec space but in nulsec and they surely have their hands full out there. Lowsec portion of the war against Amarr is on Militia's hands. We are the ones that need to make it happen! You guys - stop spamming U'K with this issue, stop putting HN into threads every week - let's just deal with them with guns and preferably a tad of diplomacy (just like Mitch Taylor is now doing) and get over it. We need to focus more on Amarr than to this rubbish - this is not helpful to Militia and much less to U'K. Best Regards, T2 ----------- Member of Tribal Core - fighting for Minmatar Militia. Death to Amarr; long live the Minmatar Nation.
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.01 08:55:00 - [85] T 2 and a number of others speak wisely and truly.
Tkotm Minmatar The Wings of Maak	Posted - 2009.06.01 09:21:00 - [86] Well I think we are all aware that the HN affair is the tree hiding the forest. But I'm convinced that this is neither the time nor the place to talk about this.
Hoggs Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.06.01 10:07:00 - [87] Sigh. U'K are anti-slaver, no? Are we slavers? No. We're pirates. Costing a pod pilot of a few million ISK, then sending him to his spare clone and enslaving people are two VERY different concepts. So, what's the problem?
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.01 10:31:00 - [88] Rocius, you speak a lot of angry, clueless words for someone who spends most of their time spinning ships in Empire stations. Perhaps you should visit the 0.0 frontlines more often, and learn what it is to be a true warrior.
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.06.01 11:03:00 - [89] Originally by: Rocius Your an idiot. You have always been an idiot. Careful, pilot, caaaareful. Jump Bridges? **** idea.
Tkotm Minmatar The Wings of Maak	Posted - 2009.06.01 11:28:00 - [90] Originally by: O Thief Perhaps you should visit the 0.0 frontlines more often, and learn what it is to be a true warrior. And who are you ?

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