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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
000 MR.U 000
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:20:00 -
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Forgetting prereqs for other things. Imagine you could train all skills with no prereqs. What skill would you want?
For PVP
For PVE(dur)
for trade/whatever you do?
I'd say carrier is the best skill as carriers are so useful in every way...and no other skill is so irreplacable. There are 2 cap skills, many damage boosting and tank boosting skills...2 fitting skills... (albeit for different types of fitting but its hard to argue one is more useful than the other on all ships)
Maybe drones V would also be a good pick
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Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:56:00 -
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Propulsion jamming makes PvP possible.
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Serj Reaper
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.29 05:03:00 -
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Drone interfacing is pretty good skill. From 0-5 it probably has the biggest impact on what it effects than any other skill.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.05.29 07:10:00 -
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Recon V
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
000 MR.U 000
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Posted - 2009.05.29 07:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Propulsion jamming makes PvP possible.
oooh good one. Very good
but
Drone interfacing? Meh...it's just a big damage mod, say that to caldari
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Robot Robot
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Posted - 2009.05.29 14:26:00 -
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spaceship command.
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Tiberus Stali
Minmatar
Amoebozoa
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Posted - 2009.05.29 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Robot Robot
spaceship command.
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Elemental Dark
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Posted - 2009.05.30 17:12:00 -
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It's got to be Drones V , it unlocks so meny other skills for drones and all of EvE should know that Drones are usfull for all proffesions .
Cant get better than a nice full drone bay ! 
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Damien Larkspur
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.30 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Robot Robot
spaceship command.
Yeah, gotta agree. This is the one, LOL. Otherwise you would never leave a station, LOL.
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HellSpeed
Gallente
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.05.30 23:30:00 -
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Raukho
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.05.31 06:58:00 -
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Definatly not carrier as it requires so many other skills to be efficient and even then it's utility is very limited.
Propulsion jamming is a good suggestion.
I'd say Analytical mind as intelligence is the thing that's lacking the most with many players :)
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Mona X
Caldari
Polish Task Forces
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.05.31 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: Mona X on 31/05/2009 13:22:18
Learning 5.
You use it always. When PVP, PVE, or spinning ship in station, when you're at work, sleep or ****. Logged, unlogged, doesn't matter. Always.
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Mr Lightt
Primary Targets
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Posted - 2009.05.31 22:11:00 -
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Cruiser V
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Peckles
Destry's Lounge
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.06.01 04:02:00 -
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Thermodynamics
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.01 07:08:00 -
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Scam Detection V
Too bad it doesn't exist...
Other than that, Spaceship Command!
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.02 04:30:00 -
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Cruiser V.
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Jainia Soltella
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Posted - 2009.06.02 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jainia Soltella on 02/06/2009 05:41:22
Gunnery
Missile Launcher Operation
Drones
Energy Pulse Weapons
Pick at least one
If you can't put damage on the target, nothing else matters. No reason to undock to point, jam, or neut a target you can't kill. If ships don't die, then traders won't have anything to trade, industrialists won't have a reason to build, miners won't have a reason to mine.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.06.02 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: Xenophanes Colophon on 02/06/2009 05:44:10
Drone skills are only useful if you're in a somewhat larger ship, and carriers are a preference thing. As an avid frigate user and lover of all things fast, drone skills mean nothing to me as my ships have no drone bays and carriers are big and slow. The idea of useful skills should be all encompassing. Acceleration Control is hugely important to me, but not exactly significant to a dreadnought. Basic important skills for all of us are just that, the basics. Electronics, engineering, mechanics, spaceship command, gunnery, science, and navigation are all useful to everybody regardless of the ship they fly. I was going to leave out learning as an unspoken d'uh, but then I remembered that some almost completely ignore it. All the learning skills are very important. Just my two cents.
Almost forgot Cybernetics. Implants can be the deciding factor in a close fight.
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Velin Shade
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Posted - 2009.06.02 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon
Edited by: Xenophanes Colophon on 02/06/2009 05:44:10
Drone skills are only useful if you're in a somewhat larger ship, and carriers are a preference thing. As an avid frigate user and lover of all things fast, drone skills mean nothing to me as my ships have no drone bays and carriers are big and slow. The idea of useful skills should be all encompassing. Acceleration Control is hugely important to me, but not exactly significant to a dreadnought. Basic important skills for all of us are just that, the basics. Electronics, engineering, mechanics, spaceship command, gunnery, science, and navigation are all useful to everybody regardless of the ship they fly. I was going to leave out learning as an unspoken d'uh, but then I remembered that some almost completely ignore it. All the learning skills are very important. Just my two cents.
Almost forgot Cybernetics. Implants can be the deciding factor in a close fight.
lol, you wrote all of this, when it's obviously spaceship command, like some of the above posters have already mentioned. It's easily the most useful skill, Eve dosn't work if poeple can't fly ships.
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Lukriss
Lone Star Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.02 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Velin Shade
lol, you wrote all of this, when it's obviously spaceship command, like some of the above posters have already mentioned. It's easily the most useful skill, Eve dosn't work if poeple can't fly ships.
Well if it's obviously spaceship command, because people would need to fly ships, then it's obviously industry because people need to make ships and mods.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.06.02 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Velin Shade
lol, you wrote all of this, when it's obviously spaceship command, like some of the above posters have already mentioned. It's easily the most useful skill, Eve dosn't work if poeple can't fly ships.
that's the basic pre-req of all pre-reqs. The op stated beyond the pre-reqs and thus spaceship command only need be mentioned when talking of the agility bonus provided from it. All the ones I listed can be pre-reqs, and indeed are in most ships, but not all together. I listed them because, whether it's a pre-req for your ship or not, you will greatly benefit from having them trained to levels 4 or 5. This only applies to pvp and pve.
As for industry,diplomacy,trade, and the like the skill needs are greatly different. Even to the point of making spaceship command unnecessary.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.06.02 19:53:00 -
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Me, I'd say the most useful skills are Electronics and Engineering, allowing you to fit more of that wonderful stuff on your ships.
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Emerhyz
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Posted - 2009.06.03 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Propulsion jamming makes PvP possible.
2nd way; Ramming speed level V (Don't let'm align)
3rd way; Fleet of PODS bouncing the Mark Iteron V around while you gank it (Again, no align)
4th way; Insta Gank noobs (Very hard to kill someone instantly - works only with small ships and tons of firepower)
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Bronnwynn
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Posted - 2009.06.03 15:36:00 -
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Eh, I'd call it Spaceship Command, then Propulsion Jamming and Afterburner for PvP or Repair Systems and Shield Operation for PvE. Yes, both, regardless of race. What happens when you get nicked in the armor? Pay the repairshop?
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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.03 16:04:00 -
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evasive manuevering-5
for so many reasons you find yourself needing to turn quickly and warp a number of times a day!
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mona X
Edited by: Mona X on 31/05/2009 13:22:18
Learning 5.
You use it always. When PVP, PVE, or spinning ship in station, when you're at work, sleep or ****. Logged, unlogged, doesn't matter. Always.
That's it.
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Axel Jangorai
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon
Edited by: Xenophanes Colophon on 02/06/2009 05:44:10
Drone skills are only useful if you're in a somewhat larger ship, and carriers are a preference thing. As an avid frigate user and lover of all things fast, drone skills mean nothing to me as my ships have no drone bays and carriers are big and slow. The idea of useful skills should be all encompassing. Acceleration Control is hugely important to me, but not exactly significant to a dreadnought. Basic important skills for all of us are just that, the basics. Electronics, engineering, mechanics, spaceship command, gunnery, science, and navigation are all useful to everybody regardless of the ship they fly. I was going to leave out learning as an unspoken d'uh, but then I remembered that some almost completely ignore it. All the learning skills are very important. Just my two cents.
Almost forgot Cybernetics. Implants can be the deciding factor in a close fight.
Regarding the drone skills, EVer flowen the Ishkur?
ne of my favorite ships and one of the Best Frigates, if not the best, in my opinion.
Regarding skill training, I ghost trained Spaceship command right after my trial ran out. It is the most important skill IMO
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Zodern
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Posted - 2009.06.06 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Larkspur
Originally by: Robot Robot
spaceship command.
Yeah, gotta agree. This is the one, LOL. Otherwise you would never leave a station, LOL.
Nah, man, just do everything via shuttle 
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Dr Caymus
Gallente
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2009.06.06 02:37:00 -
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No change to my answer. From a manufacturer's point of view: Advanced Mass Production.
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z0de
Gallente
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.06.06 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Propulsion jamming makes PvP possible.
That or really really high volley damage.
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