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Empire Sky	Posted - 2009.05.30 15:19:00 - [1] Hey y'all, Been looking at laptops and dedicated graphics are either expensive, or hard to find so... could you run eve on the intel integrated systems? or are they just not good enough. Processor is no longer an issue with modern laptops though, thank god :) peace
Jalif Minmatar Black Sinisters	Posted - 2009.05.30 15:47:00 - [2] Yeah its possible. I don't have much knowledge about the laptop I have since I bought it with a help of a good friend. But I'm able to play eve at 1280x800 with medium/high graphics or I play the game on low quality & have fraps running at the same time. (I don't care about quality since I'm zoomed out far enough to barely see the ships)
Empire Sky	Posted - 2009.05.30 15:53:00 - [3] and thats on intergrated graphics then? :) thanks for your reply
Panfloot Gallente Trust Issues Manifest Destiny.	Posted - 2009.05.30 16:12:00 - [4] I sometimes play on my laptop, its 6 or 7 years old atleast and nothing amazing, works fine just turn all the settings down.
Captain Campion Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.05.30 16:51:00 - [5] I wouldn't play eve on integrated graphics, it wouldn't be a great experience.
Tsubutai	Posted - 2009.05.30 17:06:00 - [6] I play on a macbook pro (running windows xp) with a radeon x1600, and it works ok; 1440x900 and all effects enabled/on 'high' settings save for bloom/hdr/shadows. You might want to take a look at Dell's studio 15 notebooks - they have the radeon 4570 chipset with 512mb RAM - should run eve and most other recent games nicely.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.05.30 17:26:00 - [7] oh god please don't underspend on a laptop. Buy something pretty good, somethingwith 4Gb of ram and a 9800M should be all you need to play eve happily. the trick is finding it, but new egg and even best buy have some good choices for around 1000$
Midge Mo'yb Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.05.30 17:32:00 - [8] My Dell vostro1700 plays eve perfect tbh, just dont go for one of the ones with integrated graphics, and your fine tbh the dell ones are perfect for this cause over the counter laptops are usually lacking in some area.. usually ram or graphics with the dells you buy what you want - though the proccessor options are rather steep you will get the machine you want. -----------------------------------------------
Bloody Rabbit	Posted - 2009.05.30 17:32:00 - [9] Originally by: MotherMoon oh god please don't underspend on a laptop. Buy something pretty good, somethingwith 4Gb of ram and a 9800M should be all you need to play eve happily. the trick is finding it, but new egg and even best buy have some good choices for around 1000$ If you do use the 4Gb of ram make sure that you are using a operating system that can use that ram. 64-bit windows can/32-bit windows can not. Not sure what system the OP is planning on using but without knowing you could buy a 4GB system and it won't be able to use that last 1 GB
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.05.30 18:22:00 - [10] Edited by: Cors on 30/05/2009 18:24:25 Buy a high end(meaning faster parts, not brand) with a full 1920x1200 screen, a 9000 series nvidia graphics card, and at least 3 gigs of ram. If you do those 3 you'll be able to play "fine". You'll never get over about 50-75 fps in combat, but you'll be happy with it. Sec, i'll try to find a "brand name" one with that.. Dunno if this'll work.. http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=nx17_f_2e&c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&kc=productdetails~xpsnb_m1730 This is a "high end" gameing laptop. SLi graphics, decent sized screen, good CPU, good ram, 2 HDD's in RAID for faster hdd access. Heres another with lower preformance, but a lower price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220527 It's not cheap, but then when you want a laptop to do what a desktop does, it cost more. There are dozens of companies that specialize in "gaming laptops". Just keep in mind. They use slower hdd's, shared memory for the video cards in a lot of cases, video cards a generation out of date and so on. If you just want this so you can log in and chat/change skills while on the road, or run missions, most low end(Read 500$ laptops) will do this. Spending the other several thousand on a kick ass desktop is usually better spent. If you NEED high end gameing on the go, a high end laptop is the only way.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.05.30 18:22:00 - [11] Look at MSI's laptops. I have an MSI EX623 and it performs quite well for the price. Look at them on their site, but you can get a much better price from a third party. The only issues Ive had with mine, is Vista. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Trident Ested	Posted - 2009.05.30 18:26:00 - [12] If your spending a bit and your looking for a larger laptop the Toshiba Qosmio range are more than capale of playing Eve at higher settings.
illford baker	Posted - 2009.05.30 18:37:00 - [13] Edited by: illford baker on 30/05/2009 18:37:41 get a dedicated graphics card, install 4gigs of ram, trash all the bloatware that comes with it, and get a 2 core CPU, look for core 2 duo.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Citation Registration Commission	Posted - 2009.05.30 18:43:00 - [14] Got an Asus G50VT a few months ago and it's perfect, extremely good performance and decent resolution too. ---
Dragon Greg	Posted - 2009.05.30 18:55:00 - [15] Just don't pick one with integrated graphics or an Nvidia Go graphics card (to avoid heat failure drama, a good and scary starting point for digging into that is here and here).
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.05.30 19:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Cors Edited by: Cors on 30/05/2009 18:24:25 Buy a high end(meaning faster parts, not brand) with a full 1920x1200 screen, a 9000 series nvidia graphics card, and at least 3 gigs of ram. If you do those 3 you'll be able to play "fine". You'll never get over about 50-75 fps in combat, but you'll be happy with it. Sec, i'll try to find a "brand name" one with that.. Dunno if this'll work.. http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=nx17_f_2e&c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&kc=productdetails~xpsnb_m1730 This is a "high end" gameing laptop. SLi graphics, decent sized screen, good CPU, good ram, 2 HDD's in RAID for faster hdd access. Heres another with lower preformance, but a lower price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220527 It's not cheap, but then when you want a laptop to do what a desktop does, it cost more. There are dozens of companies that specialize in "gaming laptops". Just keep in mind. They use slower hdd's, shared memory for the video cards in a lot of cases, video cards a generation out of date and so on. If you just want this so you can log in and chat/change skills while on the road, or run missions, most low end(Read 500$ laptops) will do this. Spending the other several thousand on a kick ass desktop is usually better spent. If you NEED high end gameing on the go, a high end laptop is the only way. If you go with gaming go with HP, much cheaper, and much better parts. HDX 18t for intance. 6Gb of DDr3 ram 1Gb 105M graphics Duocore 2.66 intell 500GbHarddrive 18 inch screen at 1900x1200 1,600$ (with coupon of course) I don't know whats up with Dell, they haven't lowered the prices on thier now 6-9 month old laptops yet :/ really a waste to buy something 6 months old at 6 months old prices. If you go with dell you could get an M1330 but like I said they haven't lowered the price a dime or upgraded the spec in over 6 months. Maybe it's because hp uses MxM graphics motherboards while dell sutures(sp?) the graphics card into the motherboard.
TheStarman Rukongai Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.05.30 20:04:00 - [17] Edited by: TheStarman on 30/05/2009 20:05:51 Edited by: TheStarman on 30/05/2009 20:04:31 If you live in the United States and don't buy from newegg.com than you must either not have a credit card or are functionally handicapped. I'd stab my own eyes out before I'd buy a dell or an HP. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2034940032%204020&name=%24400%20-%20%24500 I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro, which happened to have XP drivers. Before you purchase, make sure there's XP drivers. Vista is **** for gaming. Check the manufacturer's support site. Pirate a copy of XP if you need to, it is far better than the alternative. You can also adjust for your budget, but the laptop I play eve on has 3 gb of ram, an intergrated intel graphics chipset, and a 2.16 dual core and it runs eve excellently on low and medium, and only cost me $450 on sale.
Korodan Minmatar Adhocracy Incorporated	Posted - 2009.05.30 20:25:00 - [18] I manage to force EVE to run on a fairly weak Intel dual core, 1GB of RAM, and an intergrated nVida 6150. I get to about 30 fraps at best, but for the love of all things good and holy keep your settings low, also, set the Present Interval to one, that will help make sure you don't have heating problems or lag. (the fraps will seem to go down though)
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.05.30 20:48:00 - [19] I downloaded the client to my sister-in-laws ancient dell last weekend. Intel 2300 or something, XP, and 1 Gb. I think the graphics card was a Intel 4500 or something. I started it up, tried to undock, and crashed to blue screen. Upon restart, I changed all the settings to the lowest possible, and it ran, at ~11fps Hey, good enough to change skills and such, and it did still work. I wouldn't have done anything important though.......... Originally by: Clementina I regard recommending WoW to be a grave matter. That game somehow causes brain damage, and therefore should only be recommended to those who have brain damage already.[/qu
cpu939 Gallente OffBeat Creations The Elders Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.30 20:51:00 - [20] got a laptop and i can happy run 3 eve account on low setting 2 on high get a bit unhappy with 3 on high, but then again low is fine for mining and/or pve. ofc i did spend abit over 1500 gbp 01101111 01100110 01100110 01100010 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100011 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.05.31 00:37:00 - [21] Originally by: TheStarman Before you purchase, make sure there's XP drivers. Vista is ** for gaming. Check the manufacturer's support site. Pirate a copy of XP if you need to, it is far better than the alternative. Vista performs just fine now. And telling someone to pirate XP is not worth as many cool points as you think. Originally by:** CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
UMEE Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.05.31 03:03:00 - [22] Edited by: UMEE on 31/05/2009 03:03:27 try to get a dual core with dedicated graphics, i.e. 9600m gt or higher. game runs flawlessly on this machine. wasnt expensive. vista 64x is fine. it's great when u disable all the garbage in the background...took me a week.
Daelorn	Posted - 2009.05.31 04:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: TheStarman Before you purchase, make sure there's XP drivers. Vista is **** for gaming. Check the manufacturer's support site. Pirate a copy of XP if you need to, it is far better than the alternative. Vista performs just fine now. And telling someone to pirate XP is not worth as many cool points as you think. Yeah, you're a bit behind on the times, a test I read a few months ago prior to SP2 obviously, showed Vista either got the same or SLIGHTLY more FPS in modern games than in XP. I've personally never had Vista crash or anything on me, XP on the other hand I have.
SpaceSquirrels Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.31 04:53:00 - [24] integrated intel chips = no good..... i'm sure others have explained above. Quit being cheap and buy some **** with some power.... Also I wonder why so many people seem to play eve on laptops. A desktop will get you better performance, and will be cheaper, and you can upgrade it in the future...thus making it cheaper once again. I get that some people dont want 2 comps...or can't afford, but as far a gaming goes desktops are just a better investment. _________________________ I disagree...
Amitious Turkey Gallente Ammo Tech Inc	Posted - 2009.05.31 05:21:00 - [25] Originally by: SpaceSquirrels integrated intel chips = no good..... i'm sure others have explained above. Quit being cheap and buy some ** with some power.... Also I wonder why so many people seem to play eve on laptops. A desktop will get you better performance, and will be cheaper, and you can upgrade it in the future...thus making it cheaper once again. I get that some people dont want 2 comps...or can't afford, but as far a gaming goes desktops are just a better investment. Meh, if you don't go for graphics performance, intel is okay. If you have to use a laptop for work, but can't afford both a laptop and a desktop, laptop>desktop, IMO. And if you don't play anything besides Eve and equivalent games, a standard work laptop works out as well. I have a VAIO that does reasonably well with gaming, with the intel integrated graphics chip. Hopefully, it will last me four years or so. So it depends on what else you're going to use the laptop for. If you go for total gaming and want to save some money, go for a desktop. If you need to do mobile work as well and you want it all in one package, go for the lappie. If you have a lot of money... then it doesn't matter much. Or if you only need a spreadsheet, go for Lotus Notes- they still sell it . My sig was fail, but now it isn't. Originally by:** CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3 GO NAVIGATOR <3
Bestofworst Gallente Double Eagle Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.31 05:30:00 - [26] Currently using a Alienwear specced laptop while replacing something on my main computer, and even though this computer is a few years old it plays well with all the settings to max, though sometimes it gets memory leaks and I havnt stressed it in any pvp, I wouldn't suggest it on full settings but I'm sure it's possible. ---- <Insert Wit>
Alex Raptos Caldari Phoenix Rising.	Posted - 2009.05.31 05:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Bestofworst Currently using a Alienwear specced laptop while replacing something on my main computer, and even though this computer is a few years old it plays well with all the settings to max, though sometimes it gets memory leaks and I havnt stressed it in any pvp, I wouldn't suggest it on full settings but I'm sure it's possible. :NERDRAGE: One does not recommend alienware; They are just Dell with a more expensive price tag. And usually not worth the price anyway. Originally by: Dirk Magnum I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
Bestofworst Gallente Double Eagle Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.31 06:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Alex Raptos Originally by: Bestofworst Currently using a Alienwear specced laptop while replacing something on my main computer, and even though this computer is a few years old it plays well with all the settings to max, though sometimes it gets memory leaks and I havnt stressed it in any pvp, I wouldn't suggest it on full settings but I'm sure it's possible. :NERDRAGE: One does not recommend alienware; They are just Dell with a more expensive price tag. And usually not worth the price anyway. I didn't buy the computer, and it wasn't with my money, so as longa s it atleast makes me toast in the morning (Sit the bread somewhere ontop of the laptop while it's running anyhting more than solitare) then I am happy. ---- <Insert Wit>
Korodan Minmatar Adhocracy Incorporated	Posted - 2009.05.31 06:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Bestofworst Originally by: Alex Raptos Originally by: Bestofworst Currently using a Alienwear specced laptop while replacing something on my main computer, and even though this computer is a few years old it plays well with all the settings to max, though sometimes it gets memory leaks and I havnt stressed it in any pvp, I wouldn't suggest it on full settings but I'm sure it's possible. :NERDRAGE: One does not recommend alienware; They are just Dell with a more expensive price tag. And usually not worth the price anyway. I didn't buy the computer, and it wasn't with my money, so as longa s it atleast makes me toast in the morning (Sit the bread somewhere ontop of the laptop while it's running anyhting more than solitare) then I am happy. You might want to consider some sort of cooling pad. >.>
Bestofworst Gallente Double Eagle Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.31 06:26:00 - [30] Originally by: Korodan Originally by: Bestofworst Originally by: Alex Raptos Originally by: Bestofworst Currently using a Alienwear specced laptop while replacing something on my main computer, and even though this computer is a few years old it plays well with all the settings to max, though sometimes it gets memory leaks and I havnt stressed it in any pvp, I wouldn't suggest it on full settings but I'm sure it's possible. :NERDRAGE: One does not recommend alienware; They are just Dell with a more expensive price tag. And usually not worth the price anyway. I didn't buy the computer, and it wasn't with my money, so as longa s it atleast makes me toast in the morning (Sit the bread somewhere ontop of the laptop while it's running anyhting more than solitare) then I am happy. You might want to consider some sort of cooling pad. >.> I need my morning toast though. ---- <Insert Wit>

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