-How could I have beat that warp scramble? I hit warp THE second the menu populated on spawn.

You ARE going to get a lot of "don't go to low/null" or "don't fly what you can't afford to replace" comments, but to specifically address this point, there's really not much you can do.

Oh, sure, you could fit warp core stabilizers into your low slots so that you can travel more easily. Effectively, each WCS negates one "point" of warp disruptor strength - a warp disruptor is one "point" and a warp scrambler is two "points". NOTE: A ship can fit multiple disruptors/scramblers and can use them all on you, AND there are certain ships in the game which can put an "infinite strength" point on you.

There are severe drawbacks to using WCS, though, and the primary one is that they cut your targeting range a lot.

So, if you don't use WCS, how do you get through that gatecamp? Well, unless you're carrying superior firepower, you don't. So, here's how to avoid them in the future:

Before you jump into low/null sec, hop into a shuttle. Update your clone (move your medical clone somewhere close) and jump into the system you want to enter. A shuttle can warp nearly instantly, and only a specially fitted ship is going to catch you. Even if they do, you've lost a shuttle and not your 100m ISK battlecruiser.

Check dotlan maps for the systems you are going to be traveling through (specifically ships/pods killed in the past hour) and if you see a lot, avoid the system.

One very simple thing you could have done to avoid getting killed there - and generally when you jump into a low-sec gate-camp, is just go back to the gate you came in from and jump back through to safety. The aggressing ship will not be able to follow you due to aggression mechanics (look it up on eve-wiki).

If you were facing off against one ship - especially a battlecruiser, you could have easily tanked his damage until you made it back to gate even if warp scrambled (which would shot down your MWD). Remember not to shoot back however, or the gate will not permit you to jump through.

Good luck next time.

So based on what seemed like expert advice from some well-intentioned pros in another thread I head towards lower sec space.

+1 internet to those eve pros

Since this is Q&A:

-How could I have beat that warp scramble? I hit warp THE second the menu populated on spawn.

If you want to try and taste low sec a little, with the least possible risk, run some distribution missions in a Blockade Runner.

Asuming you're Caldari (you're flying a drake)

try this crane:
*words*

So, you'll advice a newbie with 2.8m SP who can barely afford his Drake / whatever T1 ship to get a Crane with Tech 2 Rigs to try Gatecamp running?

lolno.

When I first started I also thought gatecamps were impossible to navigate.

A couple of days ago I did 14 jumps through lowsec in my armor rupture, encounterd 4 camps and arrived safe at my destination.

What could you have done?
Travel fit that drake : warp core stabs in the lows
You could have burned back to the gate and jumped back to highsec.
You could have fitted a simple T1 cloak.
You could have scouted the gate.

You did none of the above and got killed. Learn from the experience and better luck next time.

Huh, now there's a really good point. I never thought of checking the map's for killed ships. That seems like a really good idea.

Also, how does the shuttle thing work exactly? Run it once to see if it's clear, then one home, then one to get the battle cruiser there?

-Good points though guys, I appreciate the feedback. All that makes sense for 0.0, but 0.4? It seemed like now you have:

Empire -> insta-killin da noobs

What if you had:

Empire (noob haven) -> more profitable -> risky -> dangerous -> wild west

As in, things were more incremental?

So based on what seemed like expert advice from some well-intentioned pros in another thread I head towards lower sec space.

At this point, that was a substantial amount of all the ISK I've made thus far, and it blows me away that a game can be built to allow this level of cheapness. It's one thing if I'm in 0.0 and cruising for PVP, it's another to design systems with the ultimate choke point to end all choke points and then allow players to camp it.

-How could I have beat that warp scramble? I hit warp THE second the menu populated on spawn.

This + OP =

I whine because I jumped my Drake into LOW-SEC and lost it and now can't afford to replace it.

Your own fault here, it gives a warning pop-up on the gates. Almost infinite pages on the internet explaining the difference betweeen High-sec, Low-sec and 0.0 space.

There is something called noob haven and it's called HIGH-SEC.

Stop whining about your loss and HTFU and play EVE, if you don't know how low-sec works and how to try to prevent being killed on gates, you have a lot to learn. So why did you try to learn in your Drake, why not take a frigate to see how it is out there.

Ooh wait, you are someone who thinks EVE is all about ISK and safety, well wake up, it isn't.

When I first started I also thought gatecamps were impossible to navigate.

A couple of days ago I did 14 jumps through lowsec in my armor rupture, encounterd 4 camps and arrived safe at my destination.

What could you have done?
Travel fit that drake : warp core stabs in the lows
You could have burned back to the gate and jumped back to highsec.
You could have fitted a simple T1 cloak.
You could have scouted the gate.

You did none of the above and got killed. Learn from the experience and better luck next time.

I like this. Maybe a good thing to suggest to other newbs (like me). Once you get to 5M ISK or so fit out a frigate for 1M or less. Pick somewhere in a new constellation with a path that will take you through 0.5 and maybe even 0.4 or lower systems. Run it. See how far you get. If you make it there, pat yourself on the back and try running to some other new place. Continue until you get killed. :)

Repeat as desired and budget allows.

So I made up the 1M ISK number. What would you vets say? maybe lower even, like 500K? Can you suggest a fit for each race?

So I made up the 1M ISK number. What would you vets say? maybe lower even, like 500K? Can you suggest a fit for each race?

NOTHING survives a gate camp.


(unless the campers really suck)

In lowsec? You got to be kidding me...

Yes yes I'm a noob if I had only used the stratospheric quantum nanite deflector I could of defeated the warp blah blah.

what do when you jump through a gate and see a gatecamp on the other side?

(1) hold cloak, keep calm and assess the situation. You are cloaked for 30s unless you move, you have a ten seconds session change timer until you can use a gate again which you should wait out cloaked in any case.
Don't panic, don't move - 30 seconds is a very long time for you to arrive at a decision.

The gate cloak timer is actually 60 seconds, which indeed gives you more than enough time to asses the situation, for the rest excellent post.

OP probably could have headed back to the gate and jumped without agressing your attacker. They can't follow you for 1 minute.

EC-300 drones are great for making people mad at you

Does the use of EC drones cause your aggression timer to kick in? How about other damage or EW drones?

What if you just use regular ECM to break their lock? Does that trigger aggression?

TIA!

Well I'm a noob to :p been playing eve off and on for years, and your right the first few times you claw your way onto a battleship or other shiny new toy only to lose it to a gank or gate camp really does deter people from still playing the game.

Ignore your friends and decline missions in lowsec. Lowsec is more trouble than it is worth.

Ignore your friends and decline missions in lowsec. Lowsec is more trouble than it is worth.

Some gate camps are just unsurvivable. Unless, you're cloaked + nullifier (strategic cruiser).

Ignore your friends and decline missions in lowsec. Lowsec is more trouble than it is worth.

yes, gate camping is the ultimate faggotry in this game. It's funny how they think they are so good at pvp and stuff, with them sitting on the hi-sec exit gate in perfect optimal range and insta lock ships with their little orca's right next to them.

Use the F10 map to look for systems with lots of deaths

Miss typed the T2 riggs, although these t2 are very cheap 13 million/ but t1 will do the less than 3.5 aligntime

This set up is done in 16 days training from scratch and although the hull is expensive the fitting isn't overall the finacial difference with a fully fitted Drake is not that big.

and although this will take a little longer and it's more expensie that the 300k Virgil gets you pass gate camps, it will do no more than that. So you are in low sec, then what?

The option I presented will give him the oppertunity to actualy make a little ISK whle he makes him self familiar with low sec, create save spots and pave the road for the rest of your ships.

Huh, now there's a really good point. I never thought of checking the map's for killed ships. That seems like a really good idea.

Also, how does the shuttle thing work exactly? Run it once to see if it's clear, then one home, then one to get the battle cruiser there?

-Good points though guys, I appreciate the feedback. All that makes sense for 0.0, but 0.4? It seemed like now you have:

Empire -> insta-killin da noobs

What if you had:

Empire (noob haven) -> more profitable -> risky -> dangerous -> wild west

As in, things were more incremental?