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Jessica Sweetwater
Novindus Equilibrium
Frentix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:42:00 -
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So
Goons launch *burn Jita*, you kill off the drone regions (pretty much) - prices rapidly rise for everything and every player in eve gets shafted.
I.e -
To buy and fit a hurricane, full t2 now costs 100mil+ Pretty much
To buy and fit a raven pretty much costs 210mil
To buy and fit a tengu, sub systems the works 1.1bil pretty much
So... Nice ccp, u let one alliance muller the market.
So onto PI
In empire and low sec - pointless, in null sec - 400mil a month? pfft, whats the point
So onto roaming pvp
Our 5 man dessy gang went um... 26 jumps thru low sec, msotly dead and 29 jumps in null ending up in sclaidng pass - again pretty much dead
small gang pvp - never happens, u engaded 5v5 ends up with 5 v 30
Gang pvp - trying to force a fight
Pretty much every null sec region is dead, so unless u wanna do high sec grief crap, yah just dont get the fights
Tell me ccp and yes im ranting
At which point are you going to step in and sort this out?
Or u just gonna let eve die a slow death because u got dust coming?
above is facts, its that simple |
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
114
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:52:00 -
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and what on earth does all of that have to do with goons? |
Mandy Stafford
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:53:00 -
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U mad brah? |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1132
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:53:00 -
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rent a better system?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Mathias Hex
136
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:56:00 -
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None of this pretty much affects me at all.
I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:56:00 -
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"Soon everything was all but straightened out,
cause they always liked to lend a helping hand."
- B. Dylan -
Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
165
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:12:00 -
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I'm still looking for the part where goons broke the game.
Post with your monkey. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
293
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:17:00 -
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Players can effect the game however they wish?
Seems like everything is working as intended. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena
Star Council
442
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:20:00 -
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Linda Shadowborn wrote:and what on earth does all of that have to do with goons?
This. Yeah, there are some jacked up things going on, and yes, Goons have led the pack in some hardcore stuff, but to lay the blame for EVERY woe at their feet is reaching without some serious, tangible proof.
"If." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
718
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:26:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Linda Shadowborn wrote:and what on earth does all of that have to do with goons? This. Yeah, there are some jacked up things going on, and yes, Goons have led the pack in some hardcore stuff, but to lay the blame for EVERY woe at their feet is reaching without some serious, tangible proof.
OP's small gang: 5
CFC's small gang: 30-50 with bubbles and maybe even a cyno fitted  Something like 5 blackbirds too (luv2jam)
I think PL's small gang is 1 Cyno bait drake and 30 titans or something like that.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
943
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:49:00 -
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damn you goons stop ruining scalding pass pvp |
Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:51:00 -
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Went through parts of low sec today and it was all but dead. Saw a couple of small gangs. Nobody was really messing with anyone. I think I saw some guy in a Talos podded after jumping through a gate - other than that - nothing. |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:52:00 -
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So you can't throw away ships as easily. This is one of the better things to happen in a while, there should be something on the line in PvP, not just throw away ships, though if thats more your style I hear cruisers are pretty cheap.
I lied :o
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Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group
Joint Venture Conglomerate
14
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Posted - 2012.05.14 01:52:00 -
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ranting is ranting, grow up or quit, we don't care. If you do quit, contract me your stuff |
Vxrasa
The Riot Formation
Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:11:00 -
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Thank you experienced Game Developer and Good Poster Jessica Sweetwater, member of the notable bad roleplaying name Frentix Alliance, your well-reasoned, insightful and accurate sweeping observations about complex issues such as PvP in every situation across the entirety of EvE, in broken English lacking proper grammar and punctuation, will no doubt serve as an example for future, less worthy posters such as myself to emulate in the future.
Good Show, Jessica Sweetwater, Good Show! |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:21:00 -
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Jessica Sweetwater wrote:So onto PI
In empire and low sec - pointless, in null sec - 400mil a month? pfft, whats the point
My planets make 594 mil per month tyvm.
. |
SpaceSquirrels
282
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:29:00 -
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Looks like you'd best learn to fly a frigate well. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
944
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:36:00 -
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hey wormholers how did goons rig the tengu market btw
that seems like a pretty big lapse in judgement in your part |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
112
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:36:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Players can effect the game however they wish?
Seems like everything is working as intended.
really? I want to effect the game in a way that make everyone have to live in a pos and they can't mount guns...... 
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
127
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:37:00 -
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The truth is, CCP has failed to innovate content and boundaries and the players are able to optimize the existing system very quickly.
I wish CCP would focus on constantly expanding the sandbox, but instead they spend their time trying to refine core systems that will be optimized (manipulated) by the playerbase within 6 months.
Goons may actually be better game designers than the people on CCP's payroll.
Space is supposed to be vast, but Eve almost always feels small.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
724
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:38:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:hey wormholers how did goons rig the tengu market btw
that seems like a pretty big lapse in judgement in your part
Well obviously if our enemies love using tengus, we must make it painful for them <3
luv2cause market pain
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
499
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:11:00 -
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standard eve game play. nothing to see here move along.
I have more space likes than you.-á |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:20:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:The truth is, CCP has failed to innovate content and boundaries and the players are able to optimize the existing system very quickly.
I wish CCP would focus on constantly expanding the sandbox, but instead they spend their time trying to refine core systems that will be optimized (manipulated) by the playerbase within 6 months.
Goons may actually be better game designers than the people on CCP's payroll.
Space is supposed to be vast, but Eve almost always feels small.
Uh players make the content and boundaries
Make your stories happen! <---ultimate innovation
- CCP Explorer // Software Director
and Eve is incredibly vast, it'd be 28 jumps for me to go from Deklein to Syndicate right now- and I would encounter an incredible amount of different organizations, alliances and personalities along the way. We traveled quite a few jumps the other direction tonight to go pick a fight and shoot some stuff. AND IT TOOK 3 HOURS
Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1125
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:25:00 -
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What really happened. |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
Test Alliance Please Ignore
107
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:30:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:
I think PL's small gang is 1 Cyno bait drake and 30 titans or something like that.
Confirming, maybe bait macharial |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Hulkageddon Orphanage
1127
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:31:00 -
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What's happening with Hulkageddon now |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
727
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:52:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.
No way ~~
Are there bigger ships than their faction fit navy raven?
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
167
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:54:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita. No way ~~ Are there bigger ships than their faction fit navy raven? Orca of course.
Post with your monkey. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
127
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:59:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Uh players make the content and boundaries
Players manufacture the content, they don't make the content.
Players play within the boundaries, they don't define the boundaries.
No More Heroes wrote:Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.
It isn't. It's a series of slightly different rooms that give the false perception of distance.
Smoke more dope.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
443
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:02:00 -
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c: The class system in EVE is so cute when it is not malicious. Nulsecers poking fun at highsecers poking fun at pirates. What a wonderful place! Everyone has their own stereotypes and jokes!
Ferox #1 |
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
131
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:33:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Smoke more dope.
PASS DAT ****
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
320
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:36:00 -
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you forgot about OTEC
check out da prices on them jump freighters
eh |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
947
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:38:00 -
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i refuse to give in to otec i will fly stuff made of t1 minerals no matter how pissed my fc gets |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
320
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:46:00 -
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your loss our gain
eh |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
167
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:51:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita. It isn't. It's a series of slightly different rooms that give the false perception of distance. Smoke more dope. Or we could be occupying alternate dimensions of the same space. Once I encountered a large bubble camp on a gate in high-sec, which then shot off into space leaving me sitting there with puzzled expression on my face. I wasn't even smoking dope.
Post with your monkey. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3756
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Posted - 2012.05.14 05:58:00 -
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Jessica Sweetwater wrote:So
Goons launch *burn Jita*, you kill off the drone regions (pretty much) - prices rapidly rise for everything and every player in eve gets shafted.
I.e -
To buy and fit a hurricane, full t2 now costs 100mil+ Pretty much
To buy and fit a raven pretty much costs 210mil
To buy and fit a tengu, sub systems the works 1.1bil pretty much
So... Nice ccp, u let one alliance muller the market.
So onto PI
In empire and low sec - pointless, in null sec - 400mil a month? pfft, whats the point
So onto roaming pvp
Our 5 man dessy gang went um... 26 jumps thru low sec, msotly dead and 29 jumps in null ending up in sclaidng pass - again pretty much dead
small gang pvp - never happens, u engaded 5v5 ends up with 5 v 30
Gang pvp - trying to force a fight
Pretty much every null sec region is dead, so unless u wanna do high sec grief crap, yah just dont get the fights
Tell me ccp and yes im ranting
At which point are you going to step in and sort this out?
Or u just gonna let eve die a slow death because u got dust coming?
above is facts, its that simple
It still costs fewer player-hours to equip the ships you quote than it did in 2006/7, back in the "glory days".
Cost isn't the issue.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
baltec1
1162
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Posted - 2012.05.14 06:04:00 -
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Fun Fact: Prices are now lower than before the mining buff. |
hyhn
Iynx Teledyne Armory
The Chogo Ri Commonwealth
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 06:13:00 -
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I just have to say --- this is music to my ears. This is the eve that we need and deserve. Prices are high enough that the risk adverse pilot is the wiser pilot. There are consequences to your actions now. Mine in a stupid fit ship in a belt -- lose a stupid fit ship. PVPeeee in a tier 2 t2 fitted battleship --- buy another plex.
Eve is supposed to be a cold cruel place. FInally after all these years the cold and cruel has returned and I don't mind telling you that under the current conditions I am doing quite well.
If you want a risk free, cost free, thought free gaming experience there are plenty of mmos out there to accommodate you.
The bitter truth is that I dont think Eve 2.0 has the fundamentals to stay like this. Most of the proper pricing is due to manipulation magic. Prices will break in a game of chicken once the first traders flinches and races to cash out profits. Almost none of it has to do with a certian group of pilots as they flap around in a comic attempt the seem relevent. My advice to you ---stop whining, savvy the risk, and get as many tulips through the market as you can while the sucker money is fresh
or
you can buy another plex.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
1466
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Posted - 2012.05.14 06:56:00 -
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Ranting, thread locked.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator
@ccp_spitfire |
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