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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.14 13:50:00 -
[301]
 Originally by: Valentine Keen
Originally by: Riddari
m0o hasn't claimed the Venal, Tenal and Branch areas (Venal has worse ore and NPCs than Lonetrek anyhow).
m0o WILL SHOOT anyone who is NOT +10 with m0o.
Given a choice of a -10 and a 0 target, we probably go for the -10 first.
Ok, so Venal, Tenal and Branch can be summed up as:
1. Claimed by EVOL, closed to anyone not +10 to them.
2. Claimed by RKK, closed to ayone not +10 to them, but they don't shoot neutrals.
3. Not claimed by m0o, but they they have free reign there being a compatriot of EVOL/RKK. m0o shoot anyone not +10 to them anywhere they feel like.
Anyone know ATUK's position?
ME !!!!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.09.14 13:50:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Valentine Keen
Originally by: Riddari
m0o hasn't claimed the Venal, Tenal and Branch areas (Venal has worse ore and NPCs than Lonetrek anyhow).
m0o WILL SHOOT anyone who is NOT +10 with m0o.
Given a choice of a -10 and a 0 target, we probably go for the -10 first.
Ok, so Venal, Tenal and Branch can be summed up as:
1. Claimed by EVOL, closed to anyone not +10 to them.
2. Claimed by RKK, closed to ayone not +10 to them, but they don't shoot neutrals.
3. Not claimed by m0o, but they they have free reign there being a compatriot of EVOL/RKK. m0o shoot anyone not +10 to them anywhere they feel like.
Anyone know ATUK's position?
ME !!!!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.09.14 13:57:00 -
[303]
Originally by: KamiCrazy
Man valentine keen you're not very smart are you.
How aobut I explain what is trying to be explained to you.
Anyone wishing to live in venal tenal or branch need to be friends with all 4 corps, because if you are not friends with all 4 corps then 1 of those corps will shoot you.
Hence this applies to everyone except said 4 corps.
Is that easier to comprehend?
It's not a case of lack of understanding, merely that the discussion developed from inconsistancies in policy between members of the collective.
I just happen to feel that when groups make public statements, it helps to make them clear enough that when the thread develops, they don't appear to be saying 2 things at once.
Either that, or they shouldn't appear to speak on behalf of a group who's policies they don't control.
As I said, I find these threads an informative way to learn what's going on, should I ever choose to explore new avenues in EVE. As it was initially presented and as the thread evolved, it became unclear and left the reader, with at least the impression - true or false - that 2 of the corps were contradicting the initial statement.
The rest, is simply an attempt to resolve that.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.09.14 13:57:00 -
[304]
Originally by: KamiCrazy
Man valentine keen you're not very smart are you.
How aobut I explain what is trying to be explained to you.
Anyone wishing to live in venal tenal or branch need to be friends with all 4 corps, because if you are not friends with all 4 corps then 1 of those corps will shoot you.
Hence this applies to everyone except said 4 corps.
Is that easier to comprehend?
It's not a case of lack of understanding, merely that the discussion developed from inconsistancies in policy between members of the collective.
I just happen to feel that when groups make public statements, it helps to make them clear enough that when the thread develops, they don't appear to be saying 2 things at once.
Either that, or they shouldn't appear to speak on behalf of a group who's policies they don't control.
As I said, I find these threads an informative way to learn what's going on, should I ever choose to explore new avenues in EVE. As it was initially presented and as the thread evolved, it became unclear and left the reader, with at least the impression - true or false - that 2 of the corps were contradicting the initial statement.
The rest, is simply an attempt to resolve that.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.14 13:59:00 -
[305]
Originally by: KamiCrazy
Man valentine keen you're not very smart are you.
How aobut I explain what is trying to be explained to you.
Anyone wishing to live in venal tenal or branch need to be friends with all 4 corps, because if you are not friends with all 4 corps then 1 of those corps will shoot you.
Hence this applies to everyone except said 4 corps.
Is that easier to comprehend?
We were told that all 4 corporations are individual entities and so far have only recieved offical standings from RKK, m0o and evolution.
I think he brings about a relevant point, people were getting confused (you must never expect things to be as simple as they are from your own point of view) by the fact you want to stand firmly apart (probably not to look like hypocrits after what stavros said t'other day) yet evolution make announcements on behlaf of you.
It's quite easy to see what needs to be the case in order to enter these regions however he was merley pointing out some issues with what is basically an alliance that doesn't want to look like an alliance because they said allainces are stupid and suck.
Admitting you were wrong is a hard thing to do sometimes, but it's mostly because you don't actually know you are wrong.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2004.09.14 13:59:00 -
[306]
Originally by: KamiCrazy
Man valentine keen you're not very smart are you.
How aobut I explain what is trying to be explained to you.
Anyone wishing to live in venal tenal or branch need to be friends with all 4 corps, because if you are not friends with all 4 corps then 1 of those corps will shoot you.
Hence this applies to everyone except said 4 corps.
Is that easier to comprehend?
We were told that all 4 corporations are individual entities and so far have only recieved offical standings from RKK, m0o and evolution.
I think he brings about a relevant point, people were getting confused (you must never expect things to be as simple as they are from your own point of view) by the fact you want to stand firmly apart (probably not to look like hypocrits after what stavros said t'other day) yet evolution make announcements on behlaf of you.
It's quite easy to see what needs to be the case in order to enter these regions however he was merley pointing out some issues with what is basically an alliance that doesn't want to look like an alliance because they said allainces are stupid and suck.
Admitting you were wrong is a hard thing to do sometimes, but it's mostly because you don't actually know you are wrong.
Former Member of Omega Corp |
Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:01:00 -
[307]
errm so..
I could enter venal if I am +/- 0 to rkk, +10 to evol and -10 to m0o?
what if I am -10 to rkk and 0 to m0o but fly with guy who is +10 to atuk?
and if my standings to all of you, are over +3.53 in total...any chance celes is shooting me on my way out?
I really think you should sit down and talk, before you post something "official" next time 
btw: when was the last time venal/tenal/branch was open anyhow?
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:01:00 -
[308]
errm so..
I could enter venal if I am +/- 0 to rkk, +10 to evol and -10 to m0o?
what if I am -10 to rkk and 0 to m0o but fly with guy who is +10 to atuk?
and if my standings to all of you, are over +3.53 in total...any chance celes is shooting me on my way out?
I really think you should sit down and talk, before you post something "official" next time
btw: when was the last time venal/tenal/branch was open anyhow?
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:09:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Fuffel
errm so..
I could enter venal if I am +/- 0 to rkk, +10 to evol and -10 to m0o?
what if I am -10 to rkk and 0 to m0o but fly with guy who is +10 to atuk?
and if my standings to all of you, are over +3.53 in total...any chance celes is shooting me on my way out?
If you really cant make out what we are saying, id advice taking a few steps back, and read again, its not that hard you know.
If you want to interpet it the way you are suggesting, by all means, be my guest.
Seriously, how hard can it be to understand? Now, if calling anyone dumb was allowed, i would, but since it's not, i won't.
Have a good day.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:09:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Fuffel
errm so..
I could enter venal if I am +/- 0 to rkk, +10 to evol and -10 to m0o?
what if I am -10 to rkk and 0 to m0o but fly with guy who is +10 to atuk?
and if my standings to all of you, are over +3.53 in total...any chance celes is shooting me on my way out?
If you really cant make out what we are saying, id advice taking a few steps back, and read again, its not that hard you know.
If you want to interpet it the way you are suggesting, by all means, be my guest.
Seriously, how hard can it be to understand? Now, if calling anyone dumb was allowed, i would, but since it's not, i won't.
Have a good day.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:09:00 -
[311]
Artegg fancy answering my question?
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:09:00 -
[312]
Artegg fancy answering my question?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:10:00 -
[313]
I don't think either CA or PA members need worry about the standings.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:10:00 -
[314]
I don't think either CA or PA members need worry about the standings.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:21:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Fuffel
errm so..
I could enter venal if I am +/- 0 to rkk, +10 to evol and -10 to m0o?
what if I am -10 to rkk and 0 to m0o but fly with guy who is +10 to atuk?
and if my standings to all of you, are over +3.53 in total...any chance celes is shooting me on my way out?
If you really cant make out what we are saying, id advice taking a few steps back, and read again, its not that hard you know.
If you want to interpet it the way you are suggesting, by all means, be my guest.
Seriously, how hard can it be to understand? Now, if calling anyone dumb was allowed, i would, but since it's not, i won't.
Have a good day.
but shrike since m0o has little to no allies, wouldn't the region be closed to any1 but you 4?
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:21:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Fuffel
errm so..
I could enter venal if I am +/- 0 to rkk, +10 to evol and -10 to m0o?
what if I am -10 to rkk and 0 to m0o but fly with guy who is +10 to atuk?
and if my standings to all of you, are over +3.53 in total...any chance celes is shooting me on my way out?
If you really cant make out what we are saying, id advice taking a few steps back, and read again, its not that hard you know.
If you want to interpet it the way you are suggesting, by all means, be my guest.
Seriously, how hard can it be to understand? Now, if calling anyone dumb was allowed, i would, but since it's not, i won't.
Have a good day.
but shrike since m0o has little to no allies, wouldn't the region be closed to any1 but you 4?
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:24:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Shrike
If you really cant make out what we are saying, id advice taking a few steps back, and read again, its not that hard you know.
If you want to interpet it the way you are suggesting, by all means, be my guest.
Seriously, how hard can it be to understand? Now, if calling anyone dumb was allowed, i would, but since it's not, i won't.
Have a good day.
Molle, this is your, what fourth thread, basiclly stating that we do have war - great news!!
how clever is that?
and after this we ll have the 123.345 posting about "you always run/hide/log/blob/selfdestruct/mine/are on a trial account...."
hard to take this seriouse 
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:24:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Shrike
If you really cant make out what we are saying, id advice taking a few steps back, and read again, its not that hard you know.
If you want to interpet it the way you are suggesting, by all means, be my guest.
Seriously, how hard can it be to understand? Now, if calling anyone dumb was allowed, i would, but since it's not, i won't.
Have a good day.
Molle, this is your, what fourth thread, basiclly stating that we do have war - great news!!
how clever is that?
and after this we ll have the 123.345 posting about "you always run/hide/log/blob/selfdestruct/mine/are on a trial account...."
hard to take this seriouse
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:26:00 -
[319]
So PA are claiming they ARENT dead?
how about you prove those who are claiming your dead by actually putting up a fight? and fight people for your space instead of sitting in deklein?
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:26:00 -
[320]
So PA are claiming they ARENT dead?
how about you prove those who are claiming your dead by actually putting up a fight? and fight people for your space instead of sitting in deklein?
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:28:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Jadrut
So PA are claiming they ARENT dead?
how about you prove those who are claiming your dead by actually putting up a fight? and fight people for your space instead of sitting in deklein?
yes, you tell me where to go..as you are my friend and I trust you
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:28:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Jadrut
So PA are claiming they ARENT dead?
how about you prove those who are claiming your dead by actually putting up a fight? and fight people for your space instead of sitting in deklein?
yes, you tell me where to go..as you are my friend and I trust you
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The End
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:42:00 -
[323]
Wow Like i didnt see this coming lol.
FU/C0D/Norad were used as buffers
Now they will feel how some of unicore felt a while ago.
too much backstabbing going on here
But this is only the begining
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The End
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:42:00 -
[324]
Wow Like i didnt see this coming lol.
FU/C0D/Norad were used as buffers
Now they will feel how some of unicore felt a while ago.
too much backstabbing going on here
But this is only the begining
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Lina Tal
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:43:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Fuffel
Originally by: Jadrut
So PA are claiming they ARENT dead?
how about you prove those who are claiming your dead by actually putting up a fight? and fight people for your space instead of sitting in deklein?
yes, you tell me where to go..as you are my friend and I trust you
Bring up your map by pushing F10, toggle it to view pilots in space. Now look at the dots in Venal Tenal and Branch. My bets are that most of those pilots shown are not PA. So thats where you should probably go. |
Lina Tal
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:43:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Fuffel
Originally by: Jadrut
So PA are claiming they ARENT dead?
how about you prove those who are claiming your dead by actually putting up a fight? and fight people for your space instead of sitting in deklein?
yes, you tell me where to go..as you are my friend and I trust you
Bring up your map by pushing F10, toggle it to view pilots in space. Now look at the dots in Venal Tenal and Branch. My bets are that most of those pilots shown are not PA. So thats where you should probably go. |
Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:48:00 -
[327]
Nice read chaps. Certainly makes work less boring...
Anyone got any popcorn?
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:48:00 -
[328]
Nice read chaps. Certainly makes work less boring...
Anyone got any popcorn?
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Dead
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:51:00 -
[329]
Originally by: The End
Wow Like i didnt see this coming lol.
FU/C0D/Norad were used as buffers
Now they will feel how some of unicore felt a while ago.
too much backstabbing going on here
But this is only the begining
But I guess you weren't with us when the joint forces of Evol/m0o and RKK along with some of our (RKK - not Evol/m0o's in case you want to nitpick) CoD/FU friends had a bit of a ruckus with the Romanian's BS/Cruiser fleet in .... wait for it....... Fade 0_o
Hardly buffer treatment.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:51:00 -
[330]
Originally by: The End
Wow Like i didnt see this coming lol.
FU/C0D/Norad were used as buffers
Now they will feel how some of unicore felt a while ago.
too much backstabbing going on here
But this is only the begining
But I guess you weren't with us when the joint forces of Evol/m0o and RKK along with some of our (RKK - not Evol/m0o's in case you want to nitpick) CoD/FU friends had a bit of a ruckus with the Romanian's BS/Cruiser fleet in .... wait for it....... Fade 0_o
Hardly buffer treatment.
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