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Lady Aja
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Posted - 2011.09.28 19:43:00 -
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with the right lvl 4 agent and the right lp store and right amount of time.
one can make a EASY 1-2 b a week. |
Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.28 20:48:00 -
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dangrah wrote:Francis Kantor wrote:I am guessing you would need two computers for an alt? Though thanks for the feedback guys, didint expect this much people to respond. As Firebolt145 noted, you really don't need two PCs for an alt. As long as your PC is pretty decent, it'll be fine to run two Eve Online Clients. Though I highly recommend dual monitors as it does make running an alt so much easier. Way better than having to alt-tab between clients.
Isboxer
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Francis Kantor
TROJAN LEGIONS
TROJAN.
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Posted - 2011.09.28 20:50:00 -
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ok i have a new problem :D
- My Raven is not wuite handling the level 4s nicely. Im fine with how much i hit, it's just that my cap runs out too quickly and they keep getting my shields to 25 percent in a rather quick time, therefore i have to use shield boosters. I think the main problem, is my resists? I mean i have four active shields on, and i change them each time there is a new faction.
-Training electronics to 5
- Shield Operations is level 4
-Shield Management is 3
-Shield upgrades is 4
- All the resist "shield compensation" is level 2-3( i read and it says i only get the bonus if my shields arent active.... wtf?)
- Weapon upgrades is to 4
Fitting goes as follows--
-Airblast X7
- Four active fields
-Shield Boost Amplifier I
-Pith C-type X-large Booster
-Three Ballistic Control Unit II
-Cap Flux II
-Power Diagnostic II
It really gets frustrating when you have to jump out 3 times... I have had to pay about 20m+ to repair my armor. My corp helps me with missions, but i can't always ask for help.There must be something missing in my Raven. |
Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
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Posted - 2011.09.28 22:00:00 -
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Francis Kantor wrote:It really gets frustrating when you have to jump out 3 times... I have had to pay about 20m+ to repair my armor. My corp helps me with missions, but i can't always ask for help.There must be something missing in my Raven.
1. Fit Armor Repairer.
2. Undock.
3. Activate Armor Repairer.
4. Wait.
5. Dock.
 You have now saved 20 millions+
- Pantheon Lea |
Spineker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2011.09.28 22:12:00 -
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Pantheon Lea wrote:Francis Kantor wrote:It really gets frustrating when you have to jump out 3 times... I have had to pay about 20m+ to repair my armor. My corp helps me with missions, but i can't always ask for help.There must be something missing in my Raven. 1. Fit Armor Repairer. 2. Undock. 3. Activate Armor Repairer. 4. Wait. 5. Dock. You have now saved 20 millions+ - Pantheon Lea
Haha yep I remember the first Raven I had long time ago and it was huge expense to fix armor because I sucked and was always getting beat up. Anyway someone had to tell me the exact same thing you just stated. 
I was so shield centric I didn't even realize I could fit a armor and hull repper.... |
iNFoRMaLiTY11
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2011.09.29 10:27:00 -
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It was said earlier but id just like to repeat it to voice it harder.
You CAN pay account with l4 missioning funded plex it does not meant you HAVE to.
My logic: a ticket to movie theater in my country is like 4-5 euros. Eve sub is 15 euros rounded up. Movies last 1.5 to 2 hours on average. Eve lasts me round 4 hours a day once/twice a week. So the logic is simple. I do both. I play eve cause it its dirt cheap entertainment i like with thrills, nooks, crooks, ship losing, killing and a social side built into the game. Movies are also fun entertainment with pretty much the same arguements except you can get a beer with friends or turn it into a date with someone special.
To me being the slave of "oh gawd must grind plex" is exactly like watching movies alone. Because i CAN doesnt mean i HAVE to nor do i like it.
Now i do see your arguements and i would say that try to figure out if the grind aspect is worth it for you. If yes go for it. Shoot the rats in missions. Make them pay for date drugging The Damsel yet once again. If you dont like the grind shell those few bucks out. The monthly fee in the end might not actually be that bad or even that relevant. |
Amonestos
Aspire Academy
New Dawn Brotherhood
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Posted - 2011.09.29 11:07:00 -
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Francis Kantor wrote:ok i have a new problem :D
- My Raven is not wuite handling the level 4s nicely. Im fine with how much i hit, it's just that my cap runs out too quickly and they keep getting my shields to 25 percent in a rather quick time, therefore i have to use shield boosters. I think the main problem, is my resists? I mean i have four active shields on, and i change them each time there is a new faction.
-Training electronics to 5
- Shield Operations is level 4
-Shield Management is 3
-Shield upgrades is 4
- All the resist "shield compensation" is level 2-3( i read and it says i only get the bonus if my shields arent active.... wtf?)
- Weapon upgrades is to 4
*snip*
It really gets frustrating when you have to jump out 3 times... I have had to pay about 20m+ to repair my armor. My corp helps me with missions, but i can't always ask for help.There must be something missing in my Raven.
Ok well I'm not the best with fitting Raven's (I fly Amarr) but I would say all your tank equipment needs to be t2 stuff, minimal. Shield management should be at 4 after electronics to 5 then energy management is at what? From what I know the Raven has cap issues so fix that by training energy management to at least level 4, that should help. Make sure you're fitting for the mission. |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.09.29 13:54:00 -
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A monthly PLEX doable by doing L4s?
Yes it is. But:
1. It depends on how much spare time you have
2. It depends on the ship you fly and modules you fit
3. It depends on your skills
4. Some social skills also help
Some ships are beter for some areas than others. Noticably Amarr laser ships have limited use against other than EM or Thermal weak opponents. Some ships have a higher max damage output than others. Only Caldari and Minmatar ships have a full range of damage types, making them the most flexible - but Caldari ships often have a big bonus to kinetic damage which actually restricts them. Fortunately the Raven type of ships don't have that restriction.
Also good faction/deadspace modules can greatly increase your survivability and damage output.
Your skills make a lot - if not the most - of difference. A low skilled pilot may not even do 400 DPS while a high skilled one that is able to fit T2 weapons and stuff on the same ship may do over 750 DPS AND will be able to tank a lot more. It's the difference between painfully warping in and out all the time to replenish cap boosters to finishing most missions without even the need to use your repair systems.
Also the social skills increase your LP and ISK rewards which is nice, but you'll usually get the majority of your income from kill bonusses. You could try to mission in lowsec or nulsec but generally it's not recommended as you may lose your ship - unless your alliance controls the area.
Personally the Tengu is my favourite as it's (almost) fool proof, fast and very easy. The damage bonus only applies to kinetic so it's not as effective in Amarr space but next to Guristas, EoM, Gallente (kinetic weak rats), Serpentis, Angels and such are very doable as kinetic is their second weakest resistance.
What salvaging and looting are concerned; I hardly ever do it. Tengus don't have the slots to fit the appropriate modules and getting a salvager from often a lot of jumps away is a bit tedious and more often than not isn't worth the effort, ISK/hour wise. In your case you could train for a Golem. |
Argaon
Jen Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.29 14:38:00 -
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You can farm Enemies Abound 3/5 + 5/5 if you have more than one agent around.
Both are worth ~30 million and doable in 30 minutes. (including salvaging with an alt while clearing)
This way, you can farm missions on weekends/after school to get 2-3 Enemies Abound missions from different agents.
You can farm any of the missions 7 times if you leave the mission completition trigger intact before completing the missions.
Don't know if 60mil/hour is worth the standing loss for you, but you can do it with basically every high payout mission. (Blockade/WWC prefered due to possible faction spawns)
Anyway, you can sustain 2 accounts through lv4's with 2-3 missions a day easily. I would recommend to loot/salvage, cause you can do it on the fly with an alt, without time loss + you don't have to rely that much on high ISK/LP ratios.
Enemies Abound are the best lvl 4 mission after update with Noctis.....for all 4 ecounter Enemies Abound you take 14 col 1=3.5kk each.41 col 2=750k each,and 29 good minmatar tags 20 are 750k each and 9 worth more....also they are good for loot/salvage... you need Noctis...bz if you dont salvage/loot at time...ninjas dont sleep and they still tags:))....usualy i played this quests in 2 Golems and one Noctis...
1quest-8min
2quest-courier
3quest-18min
4quest-14min
5quest -8min if blitz,if not 24min bz is best in loot/salvage from Enemies Abound
Dont look for standing to Gallente/Minmatar...bz like in real life you cant be friend with all:)))))in this mod you can try then you have good skills also FW...
Also if you dont have standing to run this quest to all agents EVE mail me....i can take Enemies Abound with all 3 my chars from 9 very good agents+8 so-so good agents....you take all tags/loot/salvage/LP....i need only done quest for storylines...
so i bookmark quest and give bookmark to you.. |
Versuvius Marii
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.30 01:03:00 -
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Francis Kantor wrote:ok i have a new problem :D
- My Raven is not wuite handling the level 4s nicely. Im fine with how much i hit, it's just that my cap runs out too quickly and they keep getting my shields to 25 percent in a rather quick time, therefore i have to use shield boosters. I think the main problem, is my resists? I mean i have four active shields on, and i change them each time there is a new faction.
-Training electronics to 5
- Shield Operations is level 4
-Shield Management is 3
-Shield upgrades is 4
- All the resist "shield compensation" is level 2-3( i read and it says i only get the bonus if my shields arent active.... wtf?)
- Weapon upgrades is to 4
Fitting goes as follows--
-Airblast X7
- Four active fields
-Shield Boost Amplifier I
-Pith C-type X-large Booster
-Three Ballistic Control Unit II
-Cap Flux II
-Power Diagnostic II
It really gets frustrating when you have to jump out 3 times... I have had to pay about 20m+ to repair my armor. My corp helps me with missions, but i can't always ask for help.There must be something missing in my Raven.
A general rule of thumb is to not use a BS unless you can fit a full T2 tank on it(made sightly harder on the shield tankers because Shield Management 5 is a pain compared to its armour variant..)
Make sure your active resist modules(the orange things) are pumping out resists that match the damage type you're fighting against. And of course, that they're switched on. You can ignore the shield compensation skills frankly, they don't do **** for your active resistance modules(as you've noticed, they have to be off to receive the skill boost).
Only turn on the shield booster when you need it - trying to perma-run an X-type is always gonna give you major cap issues. Cap management(turning the thing off when you get the chance for example) is considered good practice.
Give this fitting a shot. You already seem to have most of it covered, but give this a whirl. Have a read of the notes placed underneath the fitting for a more general "how to use this" guide.
Finally, I cannot stress enough - you shouldn't be flying a stupidly expensive battleship unless you have a full T2 tank. Weaponry can come later; it's no good having T2 cruise launchers if your tank melts the second it looks at a warp-in beacon. This goes double for faction stuff such as CNR's, Nightmares etc. In fact to begin with, I would recommend focusing your ship mostly around tank. Then as you get more comfortable with its tanking abilities, you can slowly remove tank and replace with gank(the theory being you don't need to tank what isn't there). On a Raven that would be BCU's and target painters... but don't put shield relays in the lows, it'll gimp your cap recharge rate!
I hope this isn't too patronising, and also that I've made some sense here  |
Spineker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.30 02:35:00 -
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I made about 600 million since last friday and didn't even try real hard, by the end of this weekend I will easily have paid back the 2 plexs I paid for me and the alt and everything after that is profit. Enemy Abound a 5 part mission is almost 150 million maybe series at least or at least 100? I can run it all in a couple few hours. However 5/5 can be the hardest mission of all missions if you don't work it correctly. I didn't count but the tags sell really well right now. Plus the armor plates and such from salvaging etc.
I have not used a credit card in 6 months and still have a couple few billion. Most from missions and such. Depends on how much I care, I could easily get a plex in a weekend if I wanted.
However I should just use the card and pay 14 bucks instead of using my funds in game. But if you are hard budget wise then yeah can make 400 million easy on 4s even if you are not maxed in skill in a week of hard play. Of course burn out is easy so find some other things to do also like exploration, a weekend of productive yet not insane exploration can make a good sum of isk. It also breaks the boredom. |
Fist1
Hostile Alcoholic Commanders
DUST ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 05:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
Francis Kantor wrote:ok i have a new problem :D
- My Raven is not wuite handling the level 4s nicely. Im fine with how much i hit, it's just that my cap runs out too quickly and they keep getting my shields to 25 percent in a rather quick time, therefore i have to use shield boosters. I think the main problem, is my resists? I mean i have four active shields on, and i change them each time there is a new faction.
-Training electronics to 5
- Shield Operations is level 4
-Shield Management is 3
-Shield upgrades is 4
- All the resist "shield compensation" is level 2-3( i read and it says i only get the bonus if my shields arent active.... wtf?)
- Weapon upgrades is to 4
Fitting goes as follows--
-Airblast X7
- Four active fields
-Shield Boost Amplifier I
-Pith C-type X-large Booster
-Three Ballistic Control Unit II
-Cap Flux II
-Power Diagnostic II
It really gets frustrating when you have to jump out 3 times... I have had to pay about 20m+ to repair my armor. My corp helps me with missions, but i can't always ask for help.There must be something missing in my Raven.
If your having to leave the mission because of cap then sell the Pith booster and get a Gist. Gist will not rep as much as the pith but has MUCH lower cap consumption. And Gist will still rep more than a T2 shield booster. |
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