Originally by: Major Stallion

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ah i coulda swore the way to beat it was to make "name and shame" whine threads on C&P. Guess I was given the wrong impression about that.

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Originally by: Major Stallion

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ah i coulda swore the way to beat it was to make "name and shame" whine threads on C&P. Guess I was given the wrong impression about that.

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Originally by: Jimer Lins

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Originally by: Major Stallion

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ah i coulda swore the way to beat it was to make "name and shame" whine threads on C&P. Guess I was given the wrong impression about that.

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I don't have any objection to name and shame threads personally. Reputation does mean something in this game. I'd prefer to do something about it more directly myself.

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Originally by: Major Stallion

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reputation in eve means something? Do i get points in RL for this?

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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Hes trying to muscle you out of the merc business so he can get more jobs.

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Originally by: Zenethalos

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^ Believe or not but that's Alek's mom.

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Originally by: Tortugan

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Excellent read. My one suggestion? Where possible, have a stealth bomber warp in to smartbomb, since they have 0 sensor recal delay after decloak, where standard covops have a minimal one- that way, there's no way the target can possibly react in time.

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Originally by: Agent Known

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Originally by: Tortugan

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Excellent read. My one suggestion? Where possible, have a stealth bomber warp in to smartbomb, since they have 0 sensor recal delay after decloak, where standard covops have a minimal one- that way, there's no way the target can possibly react in time.

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Uh...smarts don't require a lock?

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Originally by: Kydin

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You killed the freighter in 0.5 how? didnt concord pwn u for killing him in high sec?

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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde

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That's an interesting idea Tortugan. At the time we killed the freightor Jimer pleasures himself to every night, bombers didnt have cov ops cloaks. If that timer does apply to smartbombs (I havnt tested personally) then bombers would be the best choice.

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Originally by: Jimer Lins

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Did you have something to offer besides whining?

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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde

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That's an interesting idea Tortugan. At the time we killed the freightor Jimer pleasures himself to every night, bombers didnt have cov ops cloaks. If that timer does apply to smartbombs (I havnt tested personally) then bombers would be the best choice.

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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde

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Originally by: Jimer Lins

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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde

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That's an interesting idea Tortugan. At the time we killed the freightor Jimer pleasures himself to every night, bombers didnt have cov ops cloaks. If that timer does apply to smartbombs (I havnt tested personally) then bombers would be the best choice.

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I didn't know your mom's name was "Freighter". :P

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Originally by: Chribba

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The prober warps to the Veldatar and locks it down and starts shooting - so if I understood it correctly the Veldatar will NOT reset the timer and thus 5-7 min later vanish from space as the timer expires, even if the prober shoots at me?

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Originally by: Chribba

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Nice read, so if I understood it correctly, when disconnected the 15 min timer never resets even if aggressed before a pilot logs out?

In other words, there I sit in my Veldatar, I shoot that evil NPC and 2 min later log out. I still have 13 min on my timer. The Veldatar warps to emergency SS, but do not vanish since I still have some 12 minutes left on my timer now.

Time passes and this rouge probe pilot sees the Veldatar on scanner and start launching the probes, since he's a noob prober it takes him 5 min to pinpoint me.

The prober warps to the Veldatar and locks it down and starts shooting - so if I understood it correctly the Veldatar will NOT reset the timer and thus 5-7 min later vanish from space as the timer expires, even if the prober shoots at me?

Or, will he simply reset the timer as I was aggressed by NPCs before I logged out? Thus simply waiting for his capital friends to cyno in for the kill?

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Originally by: Chribba

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Ok great, then I feel a bit more safe logging out haha (and take my alt to verify if the ship is offline or if I need to log on and attempt to flee)

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Originally by: Jimer Lins

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Originally by: Chribba

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Nice read, so if I understood it correctly, when disconnected the 15 min timer never resets even if aggressed before a pilot logs out?

In other words, there I sit in my Veldatar, I shoot that evil NPC and 2 min later log out. I still have 13 min on my timer. The Veldatar warps to emergency SS, but do not vanish since I still have some 12 minutes left on my timer now.

Time passes and this rouge probe pilot sees the Veldatar on scanner and start launching the probes, since he's a noob prober it takes him 5 min to pinpoint me.

The prober warps to the Veldatar and locks it down and starts shooting - so if I understood it correctly the Veldatar will NOT reset the timer and thus 5-7 min later vanish from space as the timer expires, even if the prober shoots at me?

Or, will he simply reset the timer as I was aggressed by NPCs before I logged out? Thus simply waiting for his capital friends to cyno in for the kill?

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To my knowledge, this is correct. I have personally observed that a character who is disconnected cannot receive agro. I know that agro timers refresh to the max every time aggression is committed or received while the character is logged in.

However, I have not personally verified the scenario where someone with a pre-existing aggression timer logs out, then before that timer runs out is re-aggressed (as you describe). I assume that it works the same way in that you can't refresh the timer for a character not logged in. However, I haven't tested that specific scenario, as it doesn't usually come up- but I may do so at some point.

When I have a chance to test that, I'll post the results.

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