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Saladinae Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 5	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:24:00 - [1] - Quote I fit kinetic and thermal hardeners, enams and 2 1600mm plates. A warp sram and web and 6 neuts in my highs of my maller. I took out the most expensive PvP battleship you'll ever see. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13382007 Winmatar > Everything else
The Atomium Global Song Setup 6	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:29:00 - [2] - Quote Saladinae wrote: I fit kinetic and thermal hardeners, enams and 2 1600mm plates. A warp sram and web and 6 neuts in my highs of my maller. I took out the most expensive PvP battleship you'll ever see. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13382007 You've never seen WH Blingships. aka Luba Cibre
Saladinae Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 5	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:31:00 - [3] - Quote The Atomium wrote: Saladinae wrote: I fit kinetic and thermal hardeners, enams and 2 1600mm plates. A warp sram and web and 6 neuts in my highs of my maller. I took out the most expensive PvP battleship you'll ever see. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13382007 You've never seen WH Blingships. Not ones that took Maller bait in high sec thinking he can solo the RvB 12 man fleet that I'm sure he knew was active. Winmatar > Everything else
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 540	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:39:00 - [4] - Quote Man the only remotely fun thing that ever happened to me while flying a maller was me engaging the other fleets bait ship and killing it with 4 small autocannons before the rest of the fleet landed. Which, incidentally, is why you don't use an ishkur as your bait ship.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 356	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:39:00 - [5] - Quote how much do you want for the x-type hardeners that dropped? eh
Oak Heart WTO 0	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:45:00 - [6] - Quote Saladinae wrote: I fit kinetic and thermal hardeners, enams and 2 1600mm plates. A warp sram and web and 6 neuts in my highs of my maller. I took out the most expensive PvP battleship you'll ever see. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13382007 This person is weird, they think they baited me when i aggressed a wolf, they wernt even locked....they also think they capped me out with small neuts and thats why my duel faction injector ship couldn't tank not the fact i got disconnected....im so confused as to why this person thinks they had any effect on the outcome of this fight.
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 652	Posted - 2012.05.16 02:53:00 - [7] - Quote Oak Heart wrote: Saladinae wrote: I fit kinetic and thermal hardeners, enams and 2 1600mm plates. A warp sram and web and 6 neuts in my highs of my maller. I took out the most expensive PvP battleship you'll ever see. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13382007 This person is weird, they think they baited me when i aggressed a wolf, they wernt even locked....they also think they capped me out with small neuts and thats why my duel faction injector ship couldn't tank not the fact i got disconnected....im so confused as to why this person thinks they had any effect on the outcome of this fight. Someone is mad I just gotta go fast!
FT Diomedes Factio Paucorum 93	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:03:00 - [8] - Quote Not that it would have made much of a difference in this fight, but I find the lack of a DCU II strangely sad.
Abyssum Invocat Farewell and Adieu 8	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:04:00 - [9] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Oak Heart wrote: Saladinae wrote: I fit kinetic and thermal hardeners, enams and 2 1600mm plates. A warp sram and web and 6 neuts in my highs of my maller. I took out the most expensive PvP battleship you'll ever see. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13382007 This person is weird, they think they baited me when i aggressed a wolf, they wernt even locked....they also think they capped me out with small neuts and thats why my duel faction injector ship couldn't tank not the fact i got disconnected....im so confused as to why this person thinks they had any effect on the outcome of this fight. Someone is mad I think his story makes sense. No way that ship would have gone down with only 40k damage taken. The KM clearly shows that his reps were not being activated and it is not at all indicative of an alpha strike.
Flakey Foont 122	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:08:00 - [10] - Quote Aaah disconnected! That explains it! Why would you agress a RvB?
Perihelion Olenard Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:08:00 - [11] - Quote This is why you don't active tank anymore with ships with no defensive bonus. Doesn't take much to break it. I would have plated that battleship and used the benefit of slaves. Far less cap intensive and the isk spend on the tanking modules would have been saved for the most part. You can also warp the pod away and save the implants. The HP would be a pain to recover if you won the fight, but at least you would have a better chance and isn't nearly as costly.
Alara IonStorm 2122	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:19:00 - [12] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Someone is mad Well he just lost a 5 bil KM farmer that lets face facts was never going to go farther then the undock to Rifters R Us. Overall a very good day for EVE PvP. Abyssum Invocat wrote: I think his story makes sense. No way that ship would have gone down with only 40k damage taken. The KM clearly shows that his reps were not being activated and it is not at all indicative of an alpha strike. The Killmail clearly shows nothing accurate. Thorin Quinn Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic Oracle (Battlecruiser) Thrasher 0 (0.00%) I want an Oracle that shoots Thrashers but apparently it does no Damage. Don't take KM Numbers to heart. Edit and while we are at it this guy is the gift that keeps on giving. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748
Abyssum Invocat Farewell and Adieu 8	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:27:00 - [13] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Someone is mad Well he just lost a 5 bil KM farmer that lets face facts was never going to go farther then the undock to Rifters R Us. Overall a very good day for EVE PvP. Abyssum Invocat wrote: I think his story makes sense. No way that ship would have gone down with only 40k damage taken. The KM clearly shows that his reps were not being activated and it is not at all indicative of an alpha strike. The Killmail clearly shows nothing accurate. Thorin Quinn Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic Oracle (Battlecruiser) Thrasher 0 (0.00%) I want an Oracle that shoots Thrashers but apparently it does no Damage. Don't take KM Numbers to heart. Edit and while we are at it this guy is the gift that keeps on giving. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 I'm simply speaking from personal experience. The damage done combined with the ships attacking fairly conclusively shows numbers more akin to that of a PvP drake as opposed to the 5b isk dual rep ship in question.
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 652	Posted - 2012.05.16 03:50:00 - [14] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Someone is mad Well he just lost a 5 bil KM farmer that lets face facts was never going to go farther then the undock to Rifters R Us. Overall a very good day for EVE PvP. Abyssum Invocat wrote: I think his story makes sense. No way that ship would have gone down with only 40k damage taken. The KM clearly shows that his reps were not being activated and it is not at all indicative of an alpha strike. The Killmail clearly shows nothing accurate. Thorin Quinn Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic Oracle (Battlecruiser) Thrasher 0 (0.00%) I want an Oracle that shoots Thrashers but apparently it does no Damage. Don't take KM Numbers to heart. Edit and while we are at it this guy is the gift that keeps on giving. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 Wow this guy likes losing his expensive Battleships to RvB gangs I just gotta go fast!
Saladinae Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 5	Posted - 2012.05.16 04:19:00 - [15] - Quote Abyssum Invocat wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Someone is mad Well he just lost a 5 bil KM farmer that lets face facts was never going to go farther then the undock to Rifters R Us. Overall a very good day for EVE PvP. Abyssum Invocat wrote: I think his story makes sense. No way that ship would have gone down with only 40k damage taken. The KM clearly shows that his reps were not being activated and it is not at all indicative of an alpha strike. The Killmail clearly shows nothing accurate. Thorin Quinn Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic Oracle (Battlecruiser) Thrasher 0 (0.00%) I want an Oracle that shoots Thrashers but apparently it does no Damage. Don't take KM Numbers to heart. Edit and while we are at it this guy is the gift that keeps on giving. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 I'm simply speaking from personal experience. The damage done combined with the ships attacking fairly conclusively shows numbers more akin to that of a PvP drake as opposed to the 5b isk dual rep ship in question. He was neuted out. Everyone was ordered to fit as many neuts as possible and gallente ecm Winmatar > Everything else
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 715	Posted - 2012.05.16 05:40:00 - [16] - Quote Nice one! Oak Heart wrote: This person is weird, they think they baited me when i aggressed a wolf, they wernt even locked....they also think they capped me out with small neuts and thats why my duel faction injector ship couldn't tank not the fact i got disconnected....im so confused as to why this person thinks they had any effect on the outcome of this fight. Dude, they killed you. You are full of fail, and your ship was ridiculous. In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
Tom Siddhartha Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.16 06:09:00 - [17] - Quote Sp this guy gets his kicks beating up newbies in a pimped out silly boat? He deserved it. Nice.
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 653	Posted - 2012.05.16 07:04:00 - [18] - Quote Roime wrote: Nice one! Oak Heart wrote: This person is weird, they think they baited me when i aggressed a wolf, they wernt even locked....they also think they capped me out with small neuts and thats why my duel faction injector ship couldn't tank not the fact i got disconnected....im so confused as to why this person thinks they had any effect on the outcome of this fight. Dude, they killed you. You are full of fail, and your ship was ridiculous. But but!!! The killmails! I just gotta go fast!
Tauranon Weeesearch 64	Posted - 2012.05.16 07:25:00 - [19] - Quote Saladinae wrote: He was neuted out. Everyone was ordered to fit as many neuts as possible and gallente ecm Its dual injected. The injectors dropped full. There were 5 charges in each injector. There is a cargo bay full of charges. ie the injectors were never on. The drone bay is full. The exile is still in the cargo hold. The battleship would be slow to lock your frigates, if one of you got a jam first cycle, then he should simply redock. if one of you was in position to bump, he should redock whilst still dock-invuln. ie I don't believe this was anything other than disconnects get you dead in online games. Quote: also the kid (who uses mommy's credit card) agresses and solo pops RvB members all the time in his One-man corp that war decs us. This one time he was tricked by a bait maller and a fleet ready to ninja undock with ecm and neuts. He also NEARLY lost a proteus right before that. We were expecting his proteus to undock and active armor rep us again, but instead he brings out the Navy Domi while our fleet already reshipped/refitted to the appropriate settings. Since a Proteus is both gallente and armor rep fit, our fleet was PRIMED to take out his Navy Domi that was also active armor tanked and gallente. That's the cold truth. You are seriously having a giant forum whinge, and whole boatload of pointless adhominem about a pilot who actually fights with that stuff, and dropped a lot of nice loot. If someone aggresses an RVB member, then they have to be aware of RVB corp sizes, and they'd have to be aware how many was in local.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 231	Posted - 2012.05.16 07:32:00 - [20] - Quote Killmail detectives ITT. To OP: Congratulations on violencing such a nice boat, but it seems your version of events is somewhat less than truthful. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window.
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 718	Posted - 2012.05.16 08:02:00 - [21] - Quote Tauranon wrote: You are seriously having a giant forum whinge, and whole boatload of pointless adhominem about a pilot who actually fights with that stuff, and dropped a lot of nice loot. If someone aggresses an RVB member, then they have to be aware of RVB corp sizes, and they'd have to be aware how many was in local. I guess he lost this 3.3bil Navy Mega also because of a "disconnect", and not being terrible? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 When I was in Blues it was always the same story. The deccers are ridiculed and ingored, they might get a few kills from people who straggle to Jita for shopping, then someone in RvB takes notice, and the deccers get their expensive **** pushed back in by cheap T1 ships. In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 231	Posted - 2012.05.16 08:19:00 - [22] - Quote Roime wrote: Tauranon wrote: You are seriously having a giant forum whinge, and whole boatload of pointless adhominem about a pilot who actually fights with that stuff, and dropped a lot of nice loot. If someone aggresses an RVB member, then they have to be aware of RVB corp sizes, and they'd have to be aware how many was in local. I guess he lost this 3.3bil Navy Mega also because of a "disconnect", and not being terrible? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 When I was in Blues it was always the same story. The deccers are ridiculed and ingored, they might get a few kills from people who straggle to Jita for shopping, then someone in RvB takes notice, and the deccers get their expensive **** pushed back in by cheap T1 ships. That kill is pretty dubious too. There's no possible way he only took 74k damage with that fit unless he had prior damage. With the lowest skills to still use that fit (for EHP boosting skills, namely mechanics, hull upgrades, shield management, and armor compensation) and the DCU II inactive and all of the enemy ships shooting explosive (lowest armor resist) I still get an EHP of over 100k. So yeah, killmails need more context or fixed, depending on exactly how we arrived at this 74k number. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window.
Tauranon Weeesearch 65	Posted - 2012.05.16 08:29:00 - [23] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: So yeah, killmails need more context or fixed, depending on exactly how we arrived at this 74k number. it may or may not be the right number, but its not an unexpected number. The KM does not, and has never attempted to calculate effective hps - its always a raw figure, so it will always be significantly smaller than a buffer ships ehp.
Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 84	Posted - 2012.05.16 08:29:00 - [24] - Quote Congrats, you killed a pimp fit navy domi in highsec, you all refit ecm and neuts to kill him. If you hadent, your entire gang would be dead. Stop trying to be good and pvp and leave that blob shitfest RvB crap Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
DeBingJos Avalon Project Shadow Rock Alliance 247	Posted - 2012.05.16 08:43:00 - [25] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: Congrats, you killed a pimp fit navy domi in highsec, you all refit ecm and neuts to kill him. If you hadent, your entire gang would be dead. Stop trying to be good and pvp and leave that blob shitfest RvB crap Isn't this what pvp is about? Adapting to the situation? Also: It is more likely that he logged instead of disconnected. Anyway, it's a nice kill. Fix FW !
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance 9	Posted - 2012.05.16 08:53:00 - [26] - Quote Ok, someone lost a ship for whatever reason. OP should call random people in the phone book and tell them about this amazing story.
Tauranon Weeesearch 65	Posted - 2012.05.16 09:03:00 - [27] - Quote Roime wrote: Tauranon wrote: You are seriously having a giant forum whinge, and whole boatload of pointless adhominem about a pilot who actually fights with that stuff, and dropped a lot of nice loot. If someone aggresses an RVB member, then they have to be aware of RVB corp sizes, and they'd have to be aware how many was in local. I guess he lost this 3.3bil Navy Mega also because of a "disconnect", and not being terrible? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 When I was in Blues it was always the same story. The deccers are ridiculed and ingored, they might get a few kills from people who straggle to Jita for shopping, then someone in RvB takes notice, and the deccers get their expensive **** pushed back in by cheap T1 ships. The guy engages. he got plenty of kills that nobody would bat an eyelid about, on ships that should have enough staying power to hold on for backup (ie his last kills are all proteus on pvp fit battlcruisers), and RvB has backup. he is flying gallente, and if nothing else, gallente is fun then you die terribly, and pimped gallente is more fun, then you die even more terribly. Its not forum splerge material - especially for the second loss, where what went wrong was pretty obvious.
Azshann Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.05.16 09:20:00 - [28] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Roime wrote: Tauranon wrote: You are seriously having a giant forum whinge, and whole boatload of pointless adhominem about a pilot who actually fights with that stuff, and dropped a lot of nice loot. If someone aggresses an RVB member, then they have to be aware of RVB corp sizes, and they'd have to be aware how many was in local. I guess he lost this 3.3bil Navy Mega also because of a "disconnect", and not being terrible? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13268748 When I was in Blues it was always the same story. The deccers are ridiculed and ingored, they might get a few kills from people who straggle to Jita for shopping, then someone in RvB takes notice, and the deccers get their expensive **** pushed back in by cheap T1 ships. That kill is pretty dubious too. There's no possible way he only took 74k damage with that fit unless he had prior damage. With the lowest skills to still use that fit (for EHP boosting skills, namely mechanics, hull upgrades, shield management, and armor compensation) and the DCU II inactive and all of the enemy ships shooting explosive (lowest armor resist) I still get an EHP of over 100k. So yeah, killmails need more context or fixed, depending on exactly how we arrived at this 74k number. 1) EHP =/= HP. You can have 1 billion EHP but at the end of the day the total you take (without reps) is equal to your total Shields + Armor + Hull + (minor amount of shield regen). This means his total shield/armor/hull added to around 74,000. When you factor in resists the HP becomes "buffed" to the EHP number, telling you how long on a fixed DPS it would take to kill him. 2) Everything except the damage control is passive, therefore if he was really afk/dc'ed for that kill it wouldn't have made that much a difference. 3) There's a good chance that you are his main defending him since you're from RAZOR, the oldest alliance in EvE.
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 719	Posted - 2012.05.16 09:24:00 - [29] - Quote Tauranon wrote: The guy engages. he got plenty of kills that nobody would bat an eyelid about, on ships that should have enough staying power to hold on for backup (ie his last kills are all proteus on pvp fit battlcruisers), and RvB has backup. he is flying gallente, and if nothing else, gallente is fun then you die terribly, and pimped gallente is more fun, then you die even more terribly. Its not forum splerge material - especially for the second loss, where what went wrong was pretty obvious. Ok I take my harshness back a bit, those Myrm kills in Proteus look like they might have been good fights. Also solo is solo, so props for that. Next step is to get out of hisec In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 233	Posted - 2012.05.16 09:26:00 - [30] - Quote Azshann wrote: 1) EHP =/= HP. You can have 1 billion EHP but at the end of the day the total you take (without reps) is equal to your total Shields + Armor + Hull + (minor amount of shield regen). This means his total shield/armor/hull added to around 74,000. When you factor in resists the HP becomes "buffed" to the EHP number, telling you how long on a fixed DPS it would take to kill him. Yeah, I realize the difference now but not just because of what you're saying, but because the damage done by the ships already factored in resists Azshann wrote: 2) Everything except the damage control is passive, therefore if he was really afk/dc'ed for that kill it wouldn't have made that much a difference. I realize that. Azshann wrote: 3) There's a good chance that you are his main defending him since you're from RAZOR, the oldest alliance in EvE. Yeah, I don't quite follow this logic, but whatever. RAZOR may be old with respect to EVE, but I'm not. I'm also not defending him. If he's truly dumb enough to go AFK repeatedly in ships like this then yeah, he's stupid and deserves every loss he gets. It's just odd to me that he'll PVP fit a faction battleship with dual cap boosters and then die (but not by alpha) without ever using them. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window.

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