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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.09.16 05:32:00 -
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The way I understood it, the skill "Connections" deals with the 'Liked By' tab of the standings sheet--corps and factions that like me. And the "Diplomacy" skill deals with the 'Disliked By' tab--corps and factions that don't like me. (Ignore the other skills for now)
For the most part this was the case in my standings sheet. But some things have changed. The blood raiders corp used to dislike me, with something around a -4 standing. With Diplomacy level 4 I was able to do some agent mission and eventually bring this up.
However, when my blood raiders standing finally broke even, and then went into the positives, it retained the bonus from Diplomacy 4, instead of switching over to the Connections 1 bonus. Is that how it's supposed to work? (Other pirate corps in my Liked By tab use my Criminal Connections 3 bonus).
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.09.16 05:32:00 -
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The way I understood it, the skill "Connections" deals with the 'Liked By' tab of the standings sheet--corps and factions that like me. And the "Diplomacy" skill deals with the 'Disliked By' tab--corps and factions that don't like me. (Ignore the other skills for now)
For the most part this was the case in my standings sheet. But some things have changed. The blood raiders corp used to dislike me, with something around a -4 standing. With Diplomacy level 4 I was able to do some agent mission and eventually bring this up.
However, when my blood raiders standing finally broke even, and then went into the positives, it retained the bonus from Diplomacy 4, instead of switching over to the Connections 1 bonus. Is that how it's supposed to work? (Other pirate corps in my Liked By tab use my Criminal Connections 3 bonus).
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.16 11:23:00 -
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Well, technically (unmodified) the standing is still negative. So, untill the unmodified standing switches over to positive, I think you'll get the Diplomacy bonus (all speculation, ofc).
Would be interesting to see what actually happens.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.16 11:23:00 -
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Well, technically (unmodified) the standing is still negative. So, untill the unmodified standing switches over to positive, I think you'll get the Diplomacy bonus (all speculation, ofc).
Would be interesting to see what actually happens.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.09.16 13:07:00 -
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Actually, the faction is still negative for her, while the corperation is very positive. +5.05 without the skills. I think what she's saying is that Diplomacy still affects her corperation standing.
Should it? (I've been wanting to know about this also).
Also, I've got my Criminal Connections upto level 2, and I don't see it affecting any standings at all. All disliked by are affected by Diplomacy, and all liked by are affected by Connections (Although my liked by agents are a mix of connections and diplomacy, connections for "good" npc corps, and diplomacy for "pirate" npc corps, even though they all like me before skills.)
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.09.16 13:07:00 -
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Actually, the faction is still negative for her, while the corperation is very positive. +5.05 without the skills. I think what she's saying is that Diplomacy still affects her corperation standing.
Should it? (I've been wanting to know about this also).
Also, I've got my Criminal Connections upto level 2, and I don't see it affecting any standings at all. All disliked by are affected by Diplomacy, and all liked by are affected by Connections (Although my liked by agents are a mix of connections and diplomacy, connections for "good" npc corps, and diplomacy for "pirate" npc corps, even though they all like me before skills.)
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.09.16 15:31:00 -
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The social skills seemed to be bugged, or at least dont give the bonus's their supposed to. From my understanding the skills were supposed to work like the following:
Connections:
Standing bonus if you have a neutral or positive standing towards any corporation/faction (CONCORD friendly or otherwise).
Diplomacy:
Standing bonus if you have negative standing towards a corporation/faction which is CONCORD friendly e.g. Gallente Federation, Quafe corporation
Criminal connections:
Standing bonus, regardless of current standing, towards that corporation/faction, which is CONCORD hostile e.g. Guristas, True Power
But doesn't seem to work like that 
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator
Caldari State Citizen
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.09.16 15:31:00 -
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The social skills seemed to be bugged, or at least dont give the bonus's their supposed to. From my understanding the skills were supposed to work like the following:
Connections:
Standing bonus if you have a neutral or positive standing towards any corporation/faction (CONCORD friendly or otherwise).
Diplomacy:
Standing bonus if you have negative standing towards a corporation/faction which is CONCORD friendly e.g. Gallente Federation, Quafe corporation
Criminal connections:
Standing bonus, regardless of current standing, towards that corporation/faction, which is CONCORD hostile e.g. Guristas, True Power
But doesn't seem to work like that
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator
Caldari State Citizen
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.09.16 20:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Discorporation
Well, technically (unmodified) the standing is still negative. So, untill the unmodified standing switches over to positive, I think you'll get the Diplomacy bonus (all speculation, ofc).
Would be interesting to see what actually happens.
I meant that my unmodified standing had reached a positive value. Currently 5.05, and 5.84 modified by Diplomacy 4.
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.09.16 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Well, technically (unmodified) the standing is still negative. So, untill the unmodified standing switches over to positive, I think you'll get the Diplomacy bonus (all speculation, ofc).
Would be interesting to see what actually happens.
I meant that my unmodified standing had reached a positive value. Currently 5.05, and 5.84 modified by Diplomacy 4.
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.09.16 22:18:00 -
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I noticed, since last patch, that True Power standings are actually affected by Connections not Criminal connections.
Haven't had the time to have a closer look yet and BR it. |
Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.09.16 22:18:00 -
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I noticed, since last patch, that True Power standings are actually affected by Connections not Criminal connections.
Haven't had the time to have a closer look yet and BR it. |
Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.17 02:42:00 -
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Also, I blew up a convoy belonging to an NPC corp who I had 0.0 standing to, and after destroying the convoy, my standing with them went _up_ to 0.85 (because of my Connections skill).
Now, here's the weird thing. It appears in the 'Disliked By' tab, but my standing to them is now positive.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.17 02:42:00 -
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Also, I blew up a convoy belonging to an NPC corp who I had 0.0 standing to, and after destroying the convoy, my standing with them went _up_ to 0.85 (because of my Connections skill).
Now, here's the weird thing. It appears in the 'Disliked By' tab, but my standing to them is now positive.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.17 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mynobe Soletae on 17/09/2004 04:35:05
Yeah I'm getting the same. Perhaps they'll change it to take into account the highest standing you have (whether it's your character's or your character's corp's), and also rename the "liked by" and "disliked by" windows. Or perhaps just combine them.
I look at the "disliked by" window as "They hate me, but I have good standing so they're acting nice and polite."
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.17 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mynobe Soletae on 17/09/2004 04:35:05
Yeah I'm getting the same. Perhaps they'll change it to take into account the highest standing you have (whether it's your character's or your character's corp's), and also rename the "liked by" and "disliked by" windows. Or perhaps just combine them.
I look at the "disliked by" window as "They hate me, but I have good standing so they're acting nice and polite."
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Obfuscate
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Posted - 2004.09.18 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: Obfuscate on 18/09/2004 07:14:06
Looks like a bug.
You should be getting the connections bonus since the corporation is in positive standing with you now, opposed to being in negative standing before.
And you shouldnt be receiving any diplomacy bonus after the base standing of the corp reaches in the positive.
This is how it should work in my mind anyways.
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Obfuscate
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Posted - 2004.09.18 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: Obfuscate on 18/09/2004 07:14:06
Looks like a bug.
You should be getting the connections bonus since the corporation is in positive standing with you now, opposed to being in negative standing before.
And you shouldnt be receiving any diplomacy bonus after the base standing of the corp reaches in the positive.
This is how it should work in my mind anyways.
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