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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:33:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Vaneshi SnowCrash
The price seems to have increased dramatically since the PLEXing for FanFest announcment. I suspect the price will continue to rise until then after which it will slowly cycle back down to normal.
Only to jump back about this time next year obviously.
Common sense?
Not in MY eve!
Ohh sorry. erm.... NOES SKY FALLING. CAPS LOCK 1111!!!eleventy. That better?
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Sir Muffoon
Backdoor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:37:00 -
[32]
At this point I think the only people buying plexes are macro miners.
Really, the prices are terrible. Back to subscriptions.  |
Benzaiten Reverse
Caldari
Shokei
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:40:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Its easier to get a job, i assume you're still able to bear the sunlight outside of your basement?
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ShardowRhino
Caldari
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:42:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
There are a lot of things wrong with this game atm, but the player run economy is NOT one of them, so GTFO with your whining and go carebear harder.
dumbest statement of the year... cause there is nothing wrong with players selling stuff at cost or even below in massive numbers.
Yes the prices for gtcs are skyrocketing. If GTCs were changed so that you could not resell them, it would probably do a lot for stabalizing prices.
Of course there will be a breaking point for most players. Once that point is reached the only people buying gtcs will be an ultra small minority as well as macroers. Half a billion isk for 30days is obscene but unless you get rid of the macroers there will be "people" buying them. Eventually it will come down to macroers and I have no idea how much isk per 30days will become a breaking point.
I'm sure 500mil will be where most actual players draw the line because getting that gtc is a full time job within a game. Once you get to the point where you are spending more time grinding for isk then actually doing something fun, its time to just walk away from the game.
before some nub goes on about just paying for the game, when just our country alone is loosing 600k jobs a month, saying "get a job!" is kinda moronic. Now for those that are paying for their alt with plex cards, they will soon find little reason to bother with the alt once the gtcs exceed that alt's monthly income or at least 80% of it. Especially since we all know the prices for plex cards will continue to rise as there has been nothing to suggest the prices will ever drop.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Fringe Financial and Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:54:00 -
[35]
Originally by: ShardowRhino
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
There are a lot of things wrong with this game atm, but the player run economy is NOT one of them, so GTFO with your whining and go carebear harder.
dumbest statement of the year... cause there is nothing wrong with players selling stuff at cost or even below in massive numbers.
Yes the prices for gtcs are skyrocketing. If GTCs were changed so that you could not resell them, it would probably do a lot for stabalizing prices.
Of course there will be a breaking point for most players. Once that point is reached the only people buying gtcs will be an ultra small minority as well as macroers. Half a billion isk for 30days is obscene but unless you get rid of the macroers there will be "people" buying them. Eventually it will come down to macroers and I have no idea how much isk per 30days will become a breaking point.
I'm sure 500mil will be where most actual players draw the line because getting that gtc is a full time job within a game. Once you get to the point where you are spending more time grinding for isk then actually doing something fun, its time to just walk away from the game.
before some nub goes on about just paying for the game, when just our country alone is loosing 600k jobs a month, saying "get a job!" is kinda moronic. Now for those that are paying for their alt with plex cards, they will soon find little reason to bother with the alt once the gtcs exceed that alt's monthly income or at least 80% of it. Especially since we all know the prices for plex cards will continue to rise as there has been nothing to suggest the prices will ever drop.
Can I have your alt's stuff?
Do you read dev blogs? Fanfest. PLEX for fanfest. Any of that ring a bell. If not go do some research.
In case you actually read this. Think.... The prices went nuts RIGHT AFTER the PLEX for fanfest announcement. Traders bought up the plexes at this point, driving the price up. Then more traders bought in, including me, driving the price up more. And now we have a speculation running. It's very likely that at some yet unknown time in the future PLEX prices will dramatically drop.
Jump on the bandwagon and enjoy. I've made 500mil isk in the last two days doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and it keep getting bigger. |
aDore Him
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:00:00 -
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450 Mil isn't much. In my opinion it's a joke.
If you don't have time to farm/trade whatever that:
1.: You work and shouldn't have a problem to pay with real money.
2.: Your lazy for missioning, trading and so on, you basically want to play for free.
3.: YouÆre a student that has a hard time learning and should be gratefull not being able to waste time.
If I with my 3 Week old Char could make over 25 Millions from level 2's in a single day, now with lvl 3's allready way more, I'm sure a 1-2 Year old char doing lvl 4's shouldn't have the least problems with it (that lvl 2 day was a long day ;)).
Actually it's a great service that it is even possible to buy gametime with ingame money. The game offers it's more hardcore crowd to play for free, thatÆs a service, not something you should dare to demand.
Btw: There are Gametimecards, no Credit Cards, Paypal or whatever needed.
Btw2: I pay for my Gametime and probably never will buy a Plex (except for trading)... Unless i'm somehow getting rich.
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ShardowRhino
Caldari
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:07:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Originally by: ShardowRhino
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
There are a lot of things wrong with this game atm, but the player run economy is NOT one of them, so GTFO with your whining and go carebear harder.
dumbest statement of the year... cause there is nothing wrong with players selling stuff at cost or even below in massive numbers.
Yes the prices for gtcs are skyrocketing. If GTCs were changed so that you could not resell them, it would probably do a lot for stabalizing prices.
Of course there will be a breaking point for most players. Once that point is reached the only people buying gtcs will be an ultra small minority as well as macroers. Half a billion isk for 30days is obscene but unless you get rid of the macroers there will be "people" buying them. Eventually it will come down to macroers and I have no idea how much isk per 30days will become a breaking point.
I'm sure 500mil will be where most actual players draw the line because getting that gtc is a full time job within a game. Once you get to the point where you are spending more time grinding for isk then actually doing something fun, its time to just walk away from the game.
before some nub goes on about just paying for the game, when just our country alone is loosing 600k jobs a month, saying "get a job!" is kinda moronic. Now for those that are paying for their alt with plex cards, they will soon find little reason to bother with the alt once the gtcs exceed that alt's monthly income or at least 80% of it. Especially since we all know the prices for plex cards will continue to rise as there has been nothing to suggest the prices will ever drop.
Can I have your alt's stuff?
Do you read dev blogs? Fanfest. PLEX for fanfest. Any of that ring a bell. If not go do some research.
In case you actually read this. Think.... The prices went nuts RIGHT AFTER the PLEX for fanfest announcement. Traders bought up the plexes at this point, driving the price up. Then more traders bought in, including me, driving the price up more. And now we have a speculation running. It's very likely that at some yet unknown time in the future PLEX prices will dramatically drop.
Jump on the bandwagon and enjoy. I've made 500mil isk in the last two days doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and it keep getting bigger.
really no reason to read your entire post there. yeah who hasnt heard about the plex for fanfest bit. I seriously doubt the prices are going to drop as the result of everyone getting fanfest tickets.
Maybe you should have looked at the record of GTCs and plexcards over the past year and a half. The idea that once everyone has their tickets that the prices are going to drop is bordering outlandish. prices have been climbing steadily before and will continue to climb. I doubt that there will be a noticable dip once everyone has tickets. Either way the prices of a gtc is still going to climb,fanfest or no fanfest.
Think for half a second. 90days of game time used to go for 400mil,even less. Yet before the fanfair announcement regarding plexcards people were paying 300+mil for 30days. all fanfest has done is accelerate things. Its unlikely that gtcs would have simply leveled off at 300mil and stayed there permanently.
as for the comment on my alts stuff, is that your mandatory attempt to look hip? |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:09:00 -
[38]
Originally by: aDore Him
3.: YouÆre a student that has a hard time learning and should be gratefull not being able to waste time.
I find this mildly offensive because it insinuates all Students have a "Hard time learning" and thats because they / we waste time playing a game. You're basically labeling all students as care-free good for nothing drifters / scroungers who want to do everything at no cost to them.
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Haruhiist since December 2008
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Nel Tu
Minmatar
Thurisaz Robotics Corporation
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:15:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Nel Tu on 12/06/2009 14:16:24
I and two of my buddies can make 700m in all of two hours in WH space, let alone if we spent a good chunk (7-8 hours?) inside there. Prolly come out billionaires.
This does not concern me.
(mostly because I have that job thing and pay via subscription)
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. |
Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Fringe Financial and Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:39:00 -
[40]
Originally by: ShardowRhino
really no reason to read your entire post there. yeah who hasnt heard about the plex for fanfest bit. I seriously doubt the prices are going to drop as the result of everyone getting fanfest tickets.
Maybe you should have looked at the record of GTCs and plexcards over the past year and a half. The idea that once everyone has their tickets that the prices are going to drop is bordering outlandish. prices have been climbing steadily before and will continue to climb. I doubt that there will be a noticable dip once everyone has tickets. Either way the prices of a gtc is still going to climb,fanfest or no fanfest.
Think for half a second. 90days of game time used to go for 400mil,even less. Yet before the fanfair announcement regarding plexcards people were paying 300+mil for 30days. all fanfest has done is accelerate things. Its unlikely that gtcs would have simply leveled off at 300mil and stayed there permanently.
as for the comment on my alts stuff, is that your mandatory attempt to look hip?
No, I really was hoping you'd /cryquit and give me his/her stuff. It's happened before.
And about the other stuff, all I hear is "*whine whine whine* the times are changing and I can't cope". Go see the eve psychiatrist.
If you're so against isk farmers this change should make you happy as paying for another month of time is ever-so-slightly cutting into their profits. More importantly though it's directly competing with isk prices of illegal isk sellers. We can only hope one day it's not profitable, but for that to happen, slave labourers would have to be freed in china and pigs will fly out of our missle launchers.
Plex prices have been this high before and gone down. Also, I don't think buying plexes to go to fanfest will make prices go down, they'll make them go up! It's the fall out of speculation that will make them go down (if that ever happens).
The idea is that at some point you cut out enough of the buyers' market by pushing prices up you're left too much to sell and no one rich enough to buy. That's bils of isk you've got wrapped up in PLEX btw. So you sell trying to liquidate and move that money somewhere else and drop your price a bit. Then everyone else starts selling because the price starts to drop.
Overall, yes the trend will be an upward trend. Why? Inflation. Back six years ago when I started this game 100mil isk was what a bil isk is to us now. Inflation. Eventually, half a bil will be just another mission grind. C'est la vie.
This is the way of the market, take an economics class. |
Qwyp
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:21:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Kewso
it's a bit nuts, and not all of it is supply and demand. It gets gamed a lot with gtc's, guy I knows places them for high price, buys with alts do that few times in the forums to give the illusion of higher demand then your 'mark' pops in the thread and buys at higher price since he's been duped.
That happens the majority of time to help inflate prices on the forums, I know a few that do the same thing on the forum to inflate the price.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:51:00 -
[42]
They were never under control to begin with.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
The AB/OD Fix |
Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Heavy Influence
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:11:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 12/06/2009 17:12:20
TBH, people should stop buying rl GTCs for the moment and wait for the prices to get to 1bn per GTC, which will probably happen before the end of the summer.
To put it simply, the price will continue to rise until the demand is low enough for further price hikes to be detrimental. This is because the demand for GTCs is very inelastic.
It's the alt-crowd, really. People want to keep alts active so they can continue to train or PVP with them, so they create ISK making alts to fund that. Once it becomes the case that an ISK making alt cannot afford 1 GTC every 30 days... |
Snake O'Donell
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:20:00 -
[44]
Am I the only one who sees something good coming out of this?
If GTC's reach around 1bil it will severely cut into the ISK farmer/RMT problem. If people can get the same amount of ISK legit for maybe slightly more than what the ISK farmers sell for, they will lose money and start going somewhere else. |
Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Fringe Financial and Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:48:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Am I the only one who sees something good coming out of this?
If GTC's reach around 1bil it will severely cut into the ISK farmer/RMT problem. If people can get the same amount of ISK legit for maybe slightly more than what the ISK farmers sell for, they will lose money and start going somewhere else.
I see the good. Exactly what you see.
But isk farmers/sellers won't be hurt too bad because they employ slaves. So their profit margin is just about 100%. Though a higher GTC price will surely be a good thing.
Also, as it's hurting isk farmers, it'll also hurt alts.
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PoX IS Eve!!! BOOM!!! |
Snake O'Donell
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:59:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Am I the only one who sees something good coming out of this?
If GTC's reach around 1bil it will severely cut into the ISK farmer/RMT problem. If people can get the same amount of ISK legit for maybe slightly more than what the ISK farmers sell for, they will lose money and start going somewhere else.
I see the good. Exactly what you see.
But isk farmers/sellers won't be hurt too bad because they employ slaves. So their profit margin is just about 100%. Though a higher GTC price will surely be a good thing.
Also, as it's hurting isk farmers, it'll also hurt alts.
Hurting alts ins't necessarily a good thing. Metagaming is a large part of eve. As far as the ISK farmers, if they cannot make a large profit margin, they are going to get out of the game. If they are paying 500mil a month for each account, and say 2 or 3 of their accounts get banned each month, that is a 1.5 bil loss each month that needs recouped. |
Anos Tammo
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:38:00 -
[47]
Remembers the sweet sweet days when you could buy a 90 day GTC for 300-450m. Guess those days will never come again, particulary as well due to CCP pulling the 90 day GTC's off the market.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:51:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Clair Bear on 12/06/2009 18:52:15
GTC prices are firmly under control. Just not YOUR control.
Spirals are natural in the GTC market. The higher the ISK cost of a GTC the fewer of them need to be sold to reach ISK objectives. The fewer get sold the higher they go.
People who fund accounts with ISK are typically making a very good return on that investment. 1B for a 30 day PLEX is when I'd start looking at pruning alts. We're still a long way away from that. |
Kewso
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:04:00 -
[49]
there's a lot of manipulation involved, more so than supply and demand.
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Argent Lansing
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:32:00 -
[50]
Originally by: somanco
anione note that prices is out of control?? .. 450 mill for one plex? lol.. ppl are crazy.. cya soon..
The *value* of a PLEX is fixed. Therefore what is changing is the value of each isk is going down. This is classic inflation. What you should be complaining about is the lack of crackdown on isk farmers and the need for CCP to create more isk sinks to remove isk from the game as fast as it is created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
Quote:
"Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply."
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Iridescent Moon
Caldari
Iridescent Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:55:00 -
[51]
Quoting myself from another thread to save typing.
http://eve-search.com/thread/1074632/page/3#63
Quote:
Someone has been doing another round of price manipulation. With a fat wallet it is easy to do. Apocrypha was launched on the 10th so +/- 4 days is the best time to manipulate, old players coming back for M10 and current players starting alts.
RMT accounts will always fund using ISK and they are the last buyers that would stop buying PLEX so high prices would not stop them from buying. That gives you a baseline of buyers for overpirced PLEX.
Kazzac Elentria got lucky with his timing on his manipulation. Just after pushing the price up and as prices were about to crash CCP announced the PLEX for Fan Fest program. While the number of players doing this would be fairly small, many players would think that lots of PLEX would go to that. Therefor they would think that there would be a larger push for PLEX and jump in the market to make ISK. This reenforces the price manipulation.
Several other things kick in as well but make up a smaller part of the big picture.
PLEX are set for a heavy crash because too many people are trying to ride the manupilation. When it will happen though I can not guess. You can see by the 2 posts above me that the price point has been reached by players who consume PLEX. Once they stop buying...
Multiple people in this thread have posted everyone should hop in the PLEX market and ride the wave too oodles of ISK. You have one of 2 things going on with that. Ether you have one player trying to manipulate others into pushing PLEX up or you have many players doing the same. Ether way, every wave breaks on a beach. Someone will be left holding the bag when the market crashes. It's getting close too.
As to the PLEX for fanfest...
5 PLEX per ticket, 12 for the Spouse ticket. Not everyone going is going to use PLEX.
There is a limited number of people that will be going. It is in Iceland, not the cheapest of places to get too.
You can check Jita's PLEX sales yourself. I remember one weekend having about 820 PLEX moved. 820*5=164 fanfest tickets or 68 spouse tickets. That is from one days worth of volume. Being generous a weeks worth of sales would more then cover all of the PLEX needed for fanfest tickets, I might add that we have not even counted the PLEX sold outside if Jita.
Fanfest for PLEX is just the motivator for all the profiteers to try and ride the bubble. Prices will go down. All that has to happen is for one of the people holding a lot of PLEX to decide to dump and it will crash and crash hard. |
KaarBaak
Minmatar
Squirrel Team
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:02:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Argent Lansing
Originally by: somanco
anione note that prices is out of control?? .. 450 mill for one plex? lol.. ppl are crazy.. cya soon..
The *value* of a PLEX is fixed. Therefore what is changing is the value of each isk is going down. This is classic inflation. What you should be complaining about is the lack of crackdown on isk farmers and the need for CCP to create more isk sinks to remove isk from the game as fast as it is created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
Quote:
"Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply."
The only way I'd buy that argument is if there were a similar market-wide increase in prices for all items in game. Where the PLEX price increase appears isolated, I'd say the pressure is coming from the opposite direction: demand and speculation.
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Argent Lansing
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:07:00 -
[53]
Originally by: KaarBaak
Originally by: Argent Lansing
Originally by: somanco
anione note that prices is out of control?? .. 450 mill for one plex? lol.. ppl are crazy.. cya soon..
The *value* of a PLEX is fixed. Therefore what is changing is the value of each isk is going down. This is classic inflation. What you should be complaining about is the lack of crackdown on isk farmers and the need for CCP to create more isk sinks to remove isk from the game as fast as it is created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
Quote:
"Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply."
The only way I'd buy that argument is if there were a similar market-wide increase in prices for all items in game. Where the PLEX price increase appears isolated, I'd say the pressure is coming from the opposite direction: demand and speculation.
My first statement explains this. The *value* of PLEX is fixed because its tied to real world dollars. Other items in-game are generated by users on demand with no real world value. Other items in game don't inflate in price as much because their quantity grows with the money supply. Ore supply is infinite, just like isk, so if you increase the supply of ore ten-fold while also increasing the supply of isk ten-fold, the price of ore wont change much. However if you increase the supply of isk ten-fold while PLEX supplies are always limited by people buying them, their isk price will inflate. Likewise if ore was limited because everyone stopped mining it, its price would inflate when isk was created.
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Ivan Sable
The One Upsmanship Club
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:12:00 -
[54]
Buying real things with pretend money vs. buying pretend things with real money vs. buying real things with real money vs. buying pretend things with pretend money.
Discuss...
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:15:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Argent Lansing
Originally by: KaarBaak
Originally by: Argent Lansing
Originally by: somanco
anione note that prices is out of control?? .. 450 mill for one plex? lol.. ppl are crazy.. cya soon..
The *value* of a PLEX is fixed. Therefore what is changing is the value of each isk is going down. This is classic inflation. What you should be complaining about is the lack of crackdown on isk farmers and the need for CCP to create more isk sinks to remove isk from the game as fast as it is created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
Quote:
"Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply."
The only way I'd buy that argument is if there were a similar market-wide increase in prices for all items in game. Where the PLEX price increase appears isolated, I'd say the pressure is coming from the opposite direction: demand and speculation.
My first statement explains this. The *value* of PLEX is fixed because its tied to real world dollars. Other items in-game are generated by users on demand with no real world value. Other items in game don't inflate in price as much because their quantity grows with the money supply. Ore supply is infinite, just like isk, so if you increase the supply of ore ten-fold while also increasing the supply of isk ten-fold, the price of ore wont change much. However if you increase the supply of isk ten-fold while PLEX supplies are always limited by people buying them, their isk price will inflate. Likewise if ore was limited because everyone stopped mining it, its price would inflate when isk was created.
Its not inflation. Its Fanfest for Plex and a group of people buying up all the plex and reselling at marked up prices as soon as the lower priced ones sell out. Get a clue before trying to teach others about something irrelevant to the topic.
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Haruhiist since December 2008
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:19:00 -
[56]
Originally by: ShardowRhino
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
There are a lot of things wrong with this game atm, but the player run economy is NOT one of them, so GTFO with your whining and go carebear harder.
dumbest statement of the year... cause there is nothing wrong with players selling stuff at cost or even below in massive numbers.
Yes the prices for gtcs are skyrocketing. If GTCs were changed so that you could not resell them, it would probably do a lot for stabalizing prices.
Of course there will be a breaking point for most players. Once that point is reached the only people buying gtcs will be an ultra small minority as well as macroers. Half a billion isk for 30days is obscene but unless you get rid of the macroers there will be "people" buying them. Eventually it will come down to macroers and I have no idea how much isk per 30days will become a breaking point.
I'm sure 500mil will be where most actual players draw the line because getting that gtc is a full time job within a game. Once you get to the point where you are spending more time grinding for isk then actually doing something fun, its time to just walk away from the game.
before some nub goes on about just paying for the game, when just our country alone is loosing 600k jobs a month, saying "get a job!" is kinda moronic. Now for those that are paying for their alt with plex cards, they will soon find little reason to bother with the alt once the gtcs exceed that alt's monthly income or at least 80% of it. Especially since we all know the prices for plex cards will continue to rise as there has been nothing to suggest the prices will ever drop.
So when your country alone is loosing 600k jobs a month, you're surprised that the ISK is falling relative to RL currency.
And bluntly, you can grind much more than 500M a month. You can do it in 2 days running level 4s. Yeah it's dull and time consuming, but one resource the unemployed have in plenty is free time with nothing much to do.
Let's pretend for a moment that there are no macro/sweatshop farmers at all.
+600k unemployed/month = lower numbers of people with ú/$/E to spend on GTC to sell for ISK. Supply falls.
+600k unemployed/month = higher numbers of people with time to convert into ISK, who need GTC to play.
Now when the supply is lower and the demand is higher, what can change we expect the of ISK price of GTC?
How people remain stubbornly impervious to this utterly obvious fact baffles me. What's not to understand?
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northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:35:00 -
[57]
Edited by: northwesten on 13/06/2009 06:37:17
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Its easier to get a job, i assume you're still able to bear the sunlight outside of your basement?
/me nocks on your head!
hello anyone there? no jobs not easy to find! It's freaking hard! so stop talking BS Taken me 9 months to get a perm job sadly US has a weird way telling people your over Qualified for a job Or just not enough jobs!
Originally by: Nel Tu
Edited by: Nel Tu on 12/06/2009 14:16:24
I and two of my buddies can make 700m in all of two hours in WH space,
I think this just BS as well! |
REQUIN TIRAN
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:56:00 -
[58]
Looks like since you can pay the fanfest tickets with PLEX the price go up, hope don¦t last forever at these prices, is insane!
i can¦t be able to play with that price  |
Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.06.13 08:22:00 -
[59]
Originally by: northwesten
/me nocks on your head!
hello anyone there? no jobs not easy to find! It's freaking hard! so stop talking BS Taken me 9 months to get a perm job sadly US has a weird way telling people your over Qualified for a job Or just not enough jobs!
And here I just got a signing bonus, maybe you should have studied harder in school or got better degrees |
Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.06.13 08:28:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Argent Lansing
Originally by: somanco
anione note that prices is out of control?? .. 450 mill for one plex? lol.. ppl are crazy.. cya soon..
The *value* of a PLEX is fixed. Therefore what is changing is the value of each isk is going down. This is classic inflation. What you should be complaining about is the lack of crackdown on isk farmers and the need for CCP to create more isk sinks to remove isk from the game as fast as it is created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
Quote:
"Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply."
You seem to be the only one in this thread that actually has a clue.
If anything, ppl should be surprised at how LOW the PLEX prices are, that goes for a lot of other ingame stuff as well btw.
OH, and since we all know CCP does not act against isk farmers/bots, expect things to get worse, way, waaaaaaaaaaaay worse  |
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