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Rodger Smith
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:02:00 -
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I mean my question is in the title really I am a bit new at PvP but all my skill on with Caldari I can fly a command ship and some of the tech II cruisers I am just curious if I need to go ahead and start cross training or should I suck it up and do nothing but ECM or is there a good ship or set of skills to train to be good with Caldari ships and PvP?
Thanks for any help  |

Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:14:00 -
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Have you taken any time to read any other posts or just thought you go blindly into this one and post anyway? |

Rodger Smith
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lightningshade Have you taken any time to read any other posts or just thought you go blindly into this one and post anyway?
Mostly blindly in one and post away.... I mean I was just asking for help I don't see why that response was needed. |

Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:17:00 -
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It's needed because your lazy. |

Rodger Smith
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lightningshade It's needed because your lazy.
How so?
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Gabble Ratchet
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rodger Smith
Originally by: Lightningshade Have you taken any time to read any other posts or just thought you go blindly into this one and post anyway?
Mostly blindly in one and post away.... I mean I was just asking for help I don't see why that response was needed.
You sir are a piece of #$%#$%# and a #@$%#@$%!!! You will be relentlessly hunted down and podded repeatedly.
Let the tears begin!
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:25:00 -
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Becuase you cant be bothered looking through the forums. So many wont bee bothered to help you.
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lightningshade Becuase you cant be bothered looking through the forums. So many wont bee bothered to help you.
Don't be a jerk.
[Ferox, PVP GAWD MODE] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II
Warp Scrambler II ECCM - Omni II ECCM - Omni II ECCM - Omni II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Small Proton Smartbomb II Small Proton Smartbomb II Small Proton Smartbomb II
Auxiliary Thrusters I Auxiliary Thrusters I Auxiliary Thrusters I
Hornet II x5
That setup there is PRAWNSAUCE in a bottle...and you know it.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rodger Smith I mean my question is in the title really I am a bit new at PvP but all my skill on with Caldari I can fly a command ship and some of the tech II cruisers I am just curious if I need to go ahead and start cross training or should I suck it up and do nothing but ECM or is there a good ship or set of skills to train to be good with Caldari ships and PvP?
Thanks for any help 
See my sig... it sums it up
Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |

Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:06:00 -
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Caldari has many great PvP ships. Sun's signature is stupid. |

Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo Caldari has many great PvP ships. Sun's signature is stupid.
This. All the races (except for amarr) have down-sides. The only difference is that the caldari, as usual, are much more vocal about it.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:00:00 -
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Cruise missile Raven.
Glad i could help.
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Cruise missile Raven.
Glad i could help.
...what?
Cruise Ravens are terrible, what are you smoking? Siege Ravens on the other hand. ___________________
ENEMA, much love. <3 |

Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Cruise missile Raven.
Glad i could help.
...what?
Cruise Ravens are terrible, what are you smoking? Siege Ravens on the other hand.
ppffttt like they have enough range..... 
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Alt Tabbed
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Cruise missile Raven.
Glad i could help.
...what?
Cruise Ravens are terrible, what are you smoking? Siege Ravens on the other hand.
ppffttt like they have enough range..... 
Are you trolling or are you honestly this stupid? Siege Ravens lose out on a bit of range but they more than make up for it in sheer destructive firepower. Anyone who flies a Cruise Raven in PvP would be far better off in a variety of other ships.
Also, for mr. Sun and his "hurf blurf, Caldari can't do solo PvP" signature - it's called a Drake, try flying one. |

Atreus Tac
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:17:00 -
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i will post useful and good ships here
condor kessie merlin blackbird caracal moa ferox drake raven scorp rokh manticore buzzard harpy kitsune crow eagle cerb rook falcon onyx bassi tengu vulture widow phoenix chimera wyvern (sp on last few) titan
can you now see how stupid ur post was __________________________________________________________
[16:54:07] Kopier Tante > if you got an mwd then your completly ****ed [16:54:34] Kopier Tante > you got no defence, no speed, nothing. |

Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Are you trolling or are you honestly this stupid? Siege Ravens lose out on a bit of range but they more than make up for it in sheer destructive firepower. Anyone who flies a Cruise Raven in PvP would be far better off in a variety of other ships.
Also, for mr. Sun and his "hurf blurf, Caldari can't do solo PvP" signature - it's called a Drake, try flying one.
So much anger....
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Cruise missile Raven.
Glad i could help.
...what?
Cruise Ravens are terrible, what are you smoking? Siege Ravens on the other hand.
No. Cruise missiles are better.
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Commander Yassir
Big Black Hole
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Cruise missile Raven.
Glad i could help.
...what?
Cruise Ravens are terrible, what are you smoking? Siege Ravens on the other hand.
No. Cruise missiles are better.
My soul just cried out in pain. ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. |

Marius Deterium
Caldari The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.06.13 00:12:00 -
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Caldari have a few ships which can serve roles suited for PvP. These tend to be supporting roles. IE, ECM, Sniping etc...
But, Caldari ships tend to be slower with less DPS.
If you are serious about PvP, you will cross train something in addition to Caldari so that your role can be more versitile. |

Nightwalker234
Phoenix Industries Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.13 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Nightwalker234 on 13/06/2009 01:50:03
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
No. Cruise missiles are better.
ummm.... no?
A raven fit with Siege is a better PVP fit that cruise missiles.
The main problem with regular missiles such as heavy missiles, cruise missiles ect. ect. is that most people are going to come at you with guns and, as a general rule, guns will hit you twice before your missiles hit them once. This is where assault missiles/ siege missiles come into play. You may then scarifice some range but you will then be able you hit them as aften as they hit you. Then you get under their tracking and you have turned a hopeless fight into one you can now win.
Caldari are pretty versatile second most imo next to the Gallente where their versatility comes from their drones. You will most often see Caldari in support roles such as ECM where they are most commonly known for,
Hope this helps
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2009.06.13 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nightwalker234 Edited by: Nightwalker234 on 13/06/2009 01:50:03
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
No. Cruise missiles are better.
ummm.... no?
A raven fit with Siege is a better PVP fit that cruise missiles.
The main problem with regular missiles such as heavy missiles, cruise missiles ect. ect. is that most people are going to come at you with guns and, as a general rule, guns will hit you twice before your missiles hit them once. This is where assault missiles/ siege missiles come into play. You may then scarifice some range but you will then be able you hit them as aften as they hit you. Then you get under their tracking and you have turned a hopeless fight into one you can now win.
Caldari are pretty versatile second most imo next to the Gallente where their versatility comes from their drones. You will most often see Caldari in support roles such as ECM where they are most commonly known for,
Hope this helps
All that is fine but you're missing the point.....no range.
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Death Becoming
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Death Becoming on 13/06/2009 06:00:30 Edited by: Death Becoming on 13/06/2009 05:57:05 I dont understand why ppl are so mean.
This is my armour tanking drake fit.
DMG control II 800mm Rolled T plate Med LAR II Med LAR II
Med Hull Repair II Med Hull Repair II Med Cap Booster II Med Cap Booster II Stasis Web II Warp Disruptor II
Standard Missle Launcher II Standard Missle Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Heavy Assualt Launcher II Heavy Assualt Launcher II Heavy Missle Launcher II Prototype cloaking device I
This ship can hit frigates, cruisers, and other BCs and will shock the enemy silly with the armour and hull tanking abilities.
And unlike my friend above this will actually fit.
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:23:00 -
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short answer for the OP.... no there isnt 
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WishBlade
Caldari Atomic Heroes
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Posted - 2009.06.13 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Tac harpy onyx
With over 2 years of experience on the first one, and bout a year on the second: THIS! Onyx is the best HIC for its purpose. Aweseomenessness |

Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.13 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hurtado Soneka short answer for the OP.... no there isnt 
Look, another idiot. |

Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.13 08:34:00 -
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Actually, broadsword is basicly in every way better than onyx at doing hic stuff (i believe onyx has more dps at range). However the difference is very small.
If you want caldari, solo, success and pvp, pick a drake or a harpy for example 
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Sir Zzang
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.13 09:23:00 -
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HAM Drake!~ _ :D! |

Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.13 10:40:00 -
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To the op, for eveo you can use www.eve-search.com also if you dont feel like sifting through troll infested threads on a forum that has been almost given up on by their mods, try this one for setups: http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=3598d8f43fcc7ad0aca13495cd5a3436 |

Norpa
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Posted - 2009.06.13 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: WishBlade
Originally by: Atreus Tac onyx
With over 2 years of experience on the first one, and bout a year on the second: THIS! Onyx is the best HIC for its purpose.
Is it the massive lack of EHP compared to the other HICs that sold you on this one? Or maybe it's the need for an active Invuln instead of a passive EANM, meaning that when you get double-neuted by a carrier, your survivability gets cut in half. |
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