I'm pretty sure you didn't read them so go ahead and do so again.

It was widely known after the finals last year that Hydra Reloaded and Outbreak. had worked together as a single unit in order to game the competition. It was our hope that they would take their winnings and enter this yearGÇÖs tournament as separate entities without having to consider a replay of last year. They are both individually highly competitive teams and when they are working in their own interests they are among the best. Unfortunately Hydra and Outbreak are working from the same playbook as last year, practicing together in a single corporation on the test server in a single wormhole. We view them as they represent themselves, which mirrors how they represented themselves last year, as a single entity. For that reason they are barred from competition having entered the tournament masquerading as two units while functioning in reality as one.

I can recommend the two stickied threads at the top of the forum if you are truly looking for an explanation.

Sparring against each other and testing ship setups is not breaking the rules as the GM rightly stated. It is still not breaking the rules.

However, that is not the activity which these teams were engaged in. As of our count yesterday 28 players had moved on SISI from Outbreak to Hydra. They were acting as a single team and a single organization for whatever purposes, which is similar to the problems that were the actual basis for these ruleGÇÖs creation.

The question was never asked, nor was the GM response given that it was ok to function as a single cohesive unit as relates to the tournament. We cannot gauge intent, but even were we to try we have only past experience to look at as we cannot (yet) predict the future. Had they simply entered as a single team, as they were operating, this would never have come into question. "Wormhole logistics" are also not an acceptable response as A) You're choosing to be in a wormhole and B) You're choosing to do so with half the effort the other teams would need to put in to do so.

A) You're choosing to be in a wormhole and B) You're choosing to do so with half the effort the other teams would need to put in to do so.

I like Sreegs as a bot/rmt ban hammer... not as anything to do with atx... he is doing a horrible job so far talking to the community... he is talking down to people... being like Hilmar before if was put in his place...

My old ceo was always good at telling me when to shut up when I was hurting my corps public image, and potentially causing a pr issue... maybe your ceo should do the same... also, stick to what you are good at and don't do alliance tourny next year

If catching you doing bad things is framing you then I guess you're right. Sorry bro the system's corrupt. You can stop posting about it now because we're just going to get you anyway.

It is called entrapment. Asking the authority if it is ok to do something, having the authority say yes, and then getting punished for doing it is a textbook definition of entrapment. It would be like pre GCC changes asking a GM if you could use a tornado to warp around grid and pop multiple people, being told yes, and then being banned for exploits.

So, why is CCP allowing this thread to go off topic about teams spying in wormholes on each other? All bad posters should have their posts removed immediately.

Sreegs, in all honestly we can't stop you from acting this way.

But I want to address you on one point. From everything that has been shown and talked about, you simply MUST admit that there is a double standard here.

The communication you were able to give to RedVsBlue, but not Hydra or Outbreak just makes no sense to me.

I am obviously biased, and even discounting anything relating to the GM mail, how is it acceptable that no one replied to the multiple emails we sent to the alliance tournament team, regardless of how you feel they were vague or not. If they were vague, you should reply asking for clarification, that's how communication works. Not with "Oh, its those guys, screw them", just because you have a bone to pick and in your mind we have to be walking on thin ice.

Now I can't know for sure if this is just a result of a personal vendetta of yours, but from all your posts its sure as hell looking like it.

hey maybe if you guys make 3 more threads about it I'll give you the answer you want to hear instead of the same one I've been giving from the get go

You have never satisfactorily addressed why you (or the ATX team) never responded to our emails. I have been no-life'ing it here and I am pretty sure I have read at least 95% of all of your posts on this.

I just want a direct response to that one question, that isn't "I thought the question was too vague so it wasn't worth responding to" because that is nonsensical.

While you're in furiiouspostingmode sreegs I would like to ask you as to why the AT team decided they would collaborate with RvB, contacting and explaining what they could and could not do when working together, yet you would not contact and/or ignored hydra and outbreak when they were not even two halves of a single entity like RvB is. It is this fact primarily that does not sit with me, that you can choose to accommodate some and just jump on the banwagon with others. If you could explain why this should not be construed as favouritism and or a grudge I would be much obliged.

This is a realy good post, could somebody from ccp who isnt furios please answer.

thanks for explaining your interpretation of a legal word for me buddy but this isn't the real world nor is it applicable

As an outside entity, that has not watched a AT, has not been in a AT care nothing about AT.

CCP Sreegs is acting like a child. I do not care is hydra plays, just an observation. Grow up, and ditch the implied insults.


A post, in the style of Sreegs:

you may consider getting someone that knows what there are doing to post for you

As an outside entity, that has not watched a AT, has not been in a AT, and care nothing about AT.


I do not care is hydra plays, just an observation:

CCP Sreegs is acting like a child.

Grow up, and ditch the implied insults.


A post, in the style of Sreegs:

you may consider getting someone that knows what there are doing to post for you

As an outside entity, that has not watched a AT, has not been in a AT, and care nothing about AT.


I do not care is hydra plays, just an observation:

CCP Sreegs is acting like a child.

Grow up, and ditch the implied insults.


A post, in the style of Sreegs:

you may consider getting someone that knows what there are doing to post for you

Come on, if people having to scan you down to spy on you, just proves they don't have the skills to take you on without knowing whats coming



half fun of pvp is wondering