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Mihos Mayne	Posted - 2009.06.18 10:40:00 - [1] I'm not part of a PvP orientated Alliance, but we do occasionally get targetted by such and rather than sit and hide in station until it all goes away I've started to join small scale fleets that are formed to deal with the problem. Now, skill points are fairly high but PvP experience is low so looking to use primarily BC's due to their more affordable cost (in case of accidents) but still being able to deal with a lot of different targets. Core skills are all at either 4 or 5 (mostly 5) with the specializations in Medium Hybrid & Projectile Weapons, Racial Drones all covered to 4. Furthermore both Gallente & Minmatar ships are open as an option. I've omitted the Cyclone from the equation as I can't get my head round Shield Tanking (I prefer Armour and would be looking at a buffer tank) leaving the Brutix, Hurricane & Myrmiddon as options. Which is more suited to cutting my PvP teeth and gaining some experience?
Khornne Caldari Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.06.18 10:45:00 - [2] Hurricane with plates can get a pretty nice buffer. Active tanked Myrmidon seems to be viable too, never did that on my own.
Wai Ng'Tse	Posted - 2009.06.18 10:49:00 - [3] I honestly think that a dominix will do you better, it's stronger than either of those. Flying a hurricane or brutix effectively in PVP does require some experience, especially fitting wise. Dominix is easier, you can fit a few nos and some medium neutrons in highs, a big buffer tank (an even bigger hull buffer if you really fancy), your ogre II's can do the damage while you absorb what's being shot at you. It might cost you more as an initial investment, but insurance covers you quite well and it will last a whole lot longer than a brutix or cane.
dor amwar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:02:00 - [4] i would also add that it depends on what you are going against and what the gang needs. don't forget that assaults or intys are also useful in gangs and are in the bc price range. if you are just starting out in pvp, frigs and cruisers are a good option until you have a few engagements under your belt and figure things out.
Fastbikkel T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Wai Ng'Tse I honestly think that a dominix will do you better, it's stronger than either of those. Flying a hurricane or brutix effectively in PVP does require some experience, especially fitting wise. Dominix is easier, you can fit a few nos and some medium neutrons in highs, a big buffer tank (an even bigger hull buffer if you really fancy), your ogre II's can do the damage while you absorb what's being shot at you. It might cost you more as an initial investment, but insurance covers you quite well and it will last a whole lot longer than a brutix or cane. I agree. -If the enemy is in range, so are you-
Mihos Mayne	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:32:00 - [6] Much appreciated - will have a look a Domi fits later tonight.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:38:00 - [7] Yeah i agree as well...Domi is massive bang for your buck so to speak.
Marquis Jeladriel	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:54:00 - [8] If you have the skills and want the pvp experience but don't want to be losing a whole lotta isk everytime you lose a ship - and you WILL lose ships - why not try your first few runs in a t1 cruiser. One you've got a handle on fleet techniques and solo pvp (solo roams are fun in disposable ships), then you can grauduate to bigger ships. I primarily fly Gallente so I can advise you with those ships, you could have a lot of fun in a plated Thorax or Vexor (which are great practice ships for the Brutix and Myrm): My personal flavour of the month: Plated Thorax Lo 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates Reactor Control II Damage Control II 2x Magnetic Field Stabiliser II *1600 plate and RC II can be replaced for an 800 and an EANM II for a little more agility- personal taste Mid 10MN MWD II Warp Scrambler II Best Named Webifer High 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Drones 5x Vespa EC 600 or Hammerhead IIs If you had a fleet of 3 running the ECM drones with a few plated vexors runnning anti frigate drones (War IIs Hob IIs) you'd be very formidable. I'm sure some people will flame for using T2 modules for pvp but most of them are less expensive than best named and eat cap less than their t1 counterparts - your choice.
TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:57:00 - [9] Hurricane. Its an excellent ship.
Ziester Caldari Echolalia. Shangri-La.	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Wai Ng'Tse (an even bigger hull buffer if you really fancy As in... Quote: [Dominix, New Setup 2] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Hybrid Burst Aerator I Drone Durability Enhancer I Drone Speed Augmentor I Ogre II x5 Berserker II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Warrior II x5 :D ---------- Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:19:00 - [11] Cane is more flexible with the range and faster, Brutix packs a bit more DPS and is cheaper. Both ships actualy work better with a shield buffer setup for anything bigger than solo PVP(even solo, ST fittings performe quite good) because of the rig prices and how PVP mostly works(gank people before you get ganked). [Brutix, shield] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Valkyrie II x5 [Hurricane, shield] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Medium Energy Neutralizer II Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 Warrior II x1 ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Footoo Rama	Posted - 2009.06.18 19:56:00 - [12] unless your in a large gang and using the warfare links, the Domi is much better. Gallante BC's for solo or small group work do not really make much sense atm esp with Domi's selling for under 55 million atm.
Magnus Castaneus Cross Roads	Posted - 2009.06.18 22:19:00 - [13] Originally by: TimMc Hurricane. Its an excellent ship. This.
Commander Yassir Big Black Hole	Posted - 2009.06.18 22:52:00 - [14] Go Myrm or go home. Domi works too I guess.
KiloAlpha Southern Cross Trilogy	Posted - 2009.06.20 11:58:00 - [15] shield buffer gank cane ftw
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.06.20 12:19:00 - [16] This Hurricane setup: [Hurricane, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment Projectile Ambit Extension I Projectile Ambit Extension I Projectile Ambit Extension I Hammerhead II x1 Hobgoblin II x4 The Brutix is way too short-ranged and gets out-ganked by pretty much any good PvP battlecruiser, the Myrmidon is trash since the drone nerf, and the armor tanked Hurricane is way too slow and lacking in dps to do the job properly. -----------
deathstriker seven	Posted - 2009.06.20 13:30:00 - [17] What are you normally going up against and what ships do your gang mates fly. These questions are the core of any choices of ship/fit you decvide on, althougfh as mentioned above a domi is so versitile that unless your in a inty gang its pretty much a "fit all" situations ship.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.20 13:37:00 - [18] Myrmidon is a nice ship, but imo more for solo work. Its active tank is pretty useless in gangs. Hurricane would be best for you. Quote: The Brutix is way too short-ranged and gets out-ganked Short range: definately. Outganked, not really. Sure if you take range into account the brutix will have more trouble applying its dps, but you allready mentioned range so we dont take that another time into account. Then the brutix wont get outganked.
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.06.20 14:11:00 - [19] Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 20/06/2009 14:11:16 Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: The Brutix is way too short-ranged and gets out-ganked Short range: definately. Outganked, not really. Sure if you take range into account the brutix will have more trouble applying its dps, but you allready mentioned range so we dont take that another time into account. Then the brutix wont get outganked. Even if you don't count in range(so, Barrage), Hurri will still be able to outdamage Brutix quite often.. either due to damage types(Hail/EMP) or less reliance on drones(gate fights come to mind).
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.20 18:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Kaileen Starsong Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 20/06/2009 14:11:16 Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: The Brutix is way too short-ranged and gets out-ganked Short range: definately. Outganked, not really. Sure if you take range into account the brutix will have more trouble applying its dps, but you allready mentioned range so we dont take that another time into account. Then the brutix wont get outganked. Even if you don't count in range(so, Barrage), Hurri will still be able to outdamage Brutix quite often.. either due to damage types(Hail/EMP) or less reliance on drones(gate fights come to mind). I personally wouldn't engage another BC in a brutix solo under gate guns. That would be ******ed my tank would collapse to the gate guns after time let alone the cane.
UMEE Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.06.20 23:20:00 - [21] look, you can make anything in this game work. some people swear by the brutix and myrm. yes, the brutix can pump out some of the best BC dps, but only if paper thin. cyclone and hurricane on the other hand have amazing tanks, and are able to dish out very solid dps.
Solid Prefekt Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.06.21 02:17:00 - [22] I would go with the Hurricane as I think of it as a jack of trade and master of none. This is a ship where you can play around with a lot of different (and acceptable) fits. You can do a Gankacane (ACs), Tankacane (armor tank) and Snipacane (Arties). Or do a hybrid of any.
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.06.21 02:51:00 - [23] If your d!cking around high sec in a war get a passive plate cane. If your running with a mobile team or fleet get a passive shield cane. Wherever you went - Here you are.

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