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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.20 15:07:00 -
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Had this done to us in low sec a few weeks back, sitting at a snipe point off a gate and a pilgrim uncloaks and tackles one of our snipers. Fair enough we think, we can uncloak our emergency falcon and jam for the warp off before his mates come through the gate and warp to him. Imagine our surprise when instead a widow and about 20 assorted recons and bombers pop out of nowhere right around us.
Lets just say it wasnt fun and gave me new respect for black ops as tools for the sneaky people.
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Descrambled
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.20 23:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale
What no one in this thread seems to realize though that the place where blackops could shine, 0.0, instead fails spectacularly.
The reason being that when you bridge that 20 man gang of stealth bombers in, the target in local knows immediately because of local.
Remove local and blackops is actually worthwhile. While local is used as an information gathering tool, blackops are completely uselss.
Hint: it's usually a good idea to tackle the target before opening the cyno. It doesn't do the target much good to see local spike when they've been tackled by your cyno Rapier and a gang of 20 bombers just appeared next to them.
Hm... This sounds like it could work very nicely
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Pigeon Racer
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Posted - 2009.06.21 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nuzzy Futs
a great description and a concept for a ship - destroyed by local be immediate and used as an intelligence tool.
Thats what I thought too, it seems the whole idea is broken because of local... |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.21 10:10:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 21/06/2009 10:10:52
Originally by: Pigeon Racer
Originally by: Nuzzy Futs
a great description and a concept for a ship - destroyed by local be immediate and used as an intelligence tool.
Thats what I thought too, it seems the whole idea is broken because of local...
*sigh*
Why do people repeat the same objection after I've already answered it just a few posts ago? Is your attention span really that short?
Hint: it's usually a good idea to tackle the target before opening the cyno. It doesn't do the target much good to see local spike when they've been tackled by your cyno Rapier and a gang of 20 bombers and/or a few black ops just appeared next to them. |
Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.06.21 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 21/06/2009 10:10:52
Originally by: Pigeon Racer
Originally by: Nuzzy Futs
a great description and a concept for a ship - destroyed by local be immediate and used as an intelligence tool.
Thats what I thought too, it seems the whole idea is broken because of local...
*sigh*
Why do people repeat the same objection after I've already answered it just a few posts ago? Is your attention span really that short?
Hint: it's usually a good idea to tackle the target before opening the cyno. It doesn't do the target much good to see local spike when they've been tackled by your cyno Rapier and a gang of 20 bombers and/or a few black ops just appeared next to them.
hey, thats a good idea. ill try that next time. too bad local sucks. |
Tagami Wasp
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:01:00 -
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BO gang= 1x BOBS, 10-20 SB, 1x Arazu, 1x Rapier, 2x Falcon, 1x Tansport. Add as many cov ops as available. Enjoy.
Recons tackle, BOBS bridges dps in, 5 secs later everyone is cloaked and reading the km. |
Marcus Gideon
Gallente
The NightClub
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Posted - 2009.06.21 21:49:00 -
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Here's a Black Ops question...
Covert cynos are invisible, except to Black Ops.
Does that only include Black Ops in fleet, or any Black Ops in that system? Can a local Black Ops pilot tell when someone has crept into the system and set up a covert cyno? |
Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2009.06.22 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 21/06/2009 10:10:52
Originally by: Pigeon Racer
Originally by: Nuzzy Futs
a great description and a concept for a ship - destroyed by local be immediate and used as an intelligence tool.
Thats what I thought too, it seems the whole idea is broken because of local...
*sigh*
Why do people repeat the same objection after I've already answered it just a few posts ago? Is your attention span really that short?
Hint: it's usually a good idea to tackle the target before opening the cyno. It doesn't do the target much good to see local spike when they've been tackled by your cyno Rapier and a gang of 20 bombers and/or a few black ops just appeared next to them.
trying to teach the stupid masses how to fly bops is arsebackwards logic |
Mish'Kala
Minmatar
Infiniti Matar
Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.22 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tagami Wasp
BO gang= 1x BOBS, 10-20 SB, 1x Arazu, 1x Rapier, 2x Falcon, 1x Tansport. Add as many cov ops as available. Enjoy.
Recons tackle, BOBS bridges dps in, 5 secs later everyone is cloaked and reading the km.
This situation should be accompanied by a system wide OMNOMNOMNOMNOM sound effect, for added LULZ!
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Descrambled
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.22 15:42:00 -
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I wonder if the devs would at least consider delaying pushing the sudden appearance of ships that traveled through covert cyno to local? This would make black ops really live up to its name I'd reckon.
So to elaborate, make it so that any player that comes into a system via covert cyno- their presence will not be pushed to local for a certain amount of time. Like, give them 20 seconds or something.
The key is we need a way to stop local from spiking to help justify the high price tag on this ship
Granted, I have yet to travel through a black ops with a gang. So my opinion only worth 1 ISK here. I hope to be within an Arazu within next 1.5 weeks (waiting on recon 4, etc) so will actively try to get gangs together to utilize this
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